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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 00:28, 14 June 2009 [1].

Albert Einstein edit

Nominator(s): Kumioko (talk) 02:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Featured article review/Albert Einstein

Although I have not been an active contributor to this article thusfar I am nominating this for featured article because this article was previously delisted from Featured article status and all of the identified errors appear to have been fixed. Additionally, a lot of additional information has been added and inline citations have been included. Kumioko (talk) 02:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. You were not a major editor. The whole article looks disorganized. The lede should not have that large list of contributions. I see a lot of unsourced statements. His personal life history seems rather cluttered. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose There are large swaths of unreferenced text. Also, the religious views section on Einstein is incomplete and incorrect in places. Einstein had a religious view and believed in God see this source [2]. At page 48 of this source [3]. Also, religious views of Einstein are a contentious subject. In matters like this, you need to have every sentence referenced and make sure that you include all viewpoints by using words identify the source making the claim. NancyHeise ^talk 17:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem I will address those issues over the next couple days. Please let me know if you have any more suggestions.--Kumioko (talk) 17:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The lead needs to be expanded to better summarize the article. See WP:LEAD for guidelines. Beside the points raised above, there are issues with the spacing of inline citations (make sure they go directly after the punctuation with no space in between). Single sentences should either be expanded on or incorporated into other paragraphs to improve the flow of the article. What was found as a result of "Before the cremation, Princeton Hospital pathologist Thomas Stoltz Harvey removed Einstein's brain for preservation, without the permission of his family, in hope that the neuroscience of the future would be able to discover what made Einstein so intelligent."? I believe I read something recently that stated he had a larger brain function than the average person. Can the Honors section be converted to prose with some explanation for what each item is? Hopefully these suggestions help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 18:20, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have gone out and made some changes to the flow of the article, alignment and order of images and removed some info. I also split the honors section into 2 sections. One section for awards and 1 for honors and I am in the process of restructuring it to prose vice bullets. Over the weekend I will work on inline citations and expanding the existing references into formatted references vice the oneline bracketted links and I will expand the lead. I think realistically I should be able to get this article up to snuff by middle of next week provided all goes well. Please let me know if you see anything else.--Kumioko (talk) 19:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added a couple more images, a couple new references and added some data to expand some of the paragraphs. I also did some more adjustment of images. I still need to expand the lead and some more work on the inline citations and citation expantion.--Kumioko (talk) 20:25, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think I fixed most of the major problems mentioned above. I still need to fix a couple references and expand the references listed under the external links section but please take a look at the article now and let me know if I need to make any other changes.--Kumioko (talk) 03:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose -
Mixed citation styles. Some are footnotes, some are parentheticals and there are lots and lots of unsourced infromation.

Not sure what you mean here can you explain this a little more.--Kumioko (talk) 13:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Overlinking: Catholic school, speech difficulties, compass, models, mechanical devices, rote learning, Italy, military service, slowing down, The Times, etc.
Easter egg linking: citizenship in the German Kingdom of Wurttemberg goes to German nationality law, why the sky is blue links to Diffuse sky radiation
Unsourced quotations in the Religious views section
See also section contains lots of links to articles linked in the text

Done--Kumioko (talk) 13:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Newspaper titles in the refs need to be italics.
Lots of websites in the references lack publishers and last access dates.

Done. I took most out of the External links section because they didn't add value to the article,wheren't notible or where already in the article.--Kumioko (talk) 13:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Two cite error tags in the references.

Done--Kumioko (talk) 13:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bare numbered links in the referes (see current ref 105)
Inline external links in the body of the ext (see Light and general relativity section).
some of the footnotes give the authors as last name first, some give first name first. Needs to be consistent.
Three deadlinks from the link checker tool.
What makes the following reliable sources:
Surely there are written biographies that could have been consulted? I see one book begin used, but I would expect a lot more of this article to be sourced to books, rather than websites.

Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. I find this article needs a lot of work, and probably a rethinking of the sources used, thus the oppose. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:51, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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