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Proposed deletion of Judicaël Perroy

The article Judicaël Perroy has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Judicaël Perroy

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A tag has been placed on Judicaël Perroy, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an acceptable page. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

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Thanks for your message. Julian Bream is a poor model. It's a start class article already tagged for lacking in references. However, he is undoubtedly notable. Compare with, say Olivier Messiaen. I deleted your article because

• it did not provide adequate independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines.
• Although you gave references, multiply repeated, effectively they consist of a college concert programme, an interview with him and a mention in a book. None of these has a web link, so we can't verify what has been said. If he was genuinely notable, I would have expected mention in a high quality on-line source such as the web versions of major newspapers, music magazines or books too.
• it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of claims presented as fact but unsourced or sourced only to him include: propelled to the international scene... the prestigious... world-wide recognition... first-rate artist... Many of his students had been competition winners... his eclectic side... a first in the world of the classical guitar... has been highly praised.

If you recreate

• Add links to other articles, like Paris, acoustic guitar
• If you want to repeat a ref, on the first occurrence format beginning with <ref name=suitablename> and ending with </ref>, and on future occurrences just use <ref name =suitablename/>
• Consider creating a draft here first and let me know if you want me to review it
• Let me know if you need the deleted text, if so I'll post it in the link above

Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:30, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I think you are struggling here. Although you added three web links, they just confirm that the publications exist, but don't verify any of the text. If you can't find proper references (not his site, social media, Youtube or sales sites like Amazon) he simply isn't notable enough for a Wikipedia article. His teachers don't seem to have been linked to Wikipedia articles, so they may not be notable either. He seems to have won one notable competition, but we can't verify that anyway

The text still contains unverifiable claims and spam such as He was dubbed a "child prodigy"... His talent was crowned.... Unless you can find decent references (which don't have to be in English), this will be deleted again, by someone else if not me.

I tidied up the headings Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

OK, a way forward. The Viloteau article is deficient, but has an article we can read as its ref. French Wikipedia has different rules, that article would be deleted here. I found this ref <ref>[http://www.adelaidefestivalcentre.com.au/guitar-festival/artists/judicael-perroy/ Adelaide Festival Centre]</ref>. Although the tone is non-neutral, at least we can actually read something about him. Post it again, with or without the Australian ref, and I'll leave it be. That way, at least we can see if it's just me. Good luck Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:34, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Judicaël Perroy

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A tag has been placed on Judicaël Perroy, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Sorry about that, you are obviously working on this in good faith, but the lack of accessible references makes it difficult to write in a neutral tone Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:34, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

I can let it pass only in the sense of not deleting or tagging it myself. Other editors have to make their own decisions, there is no one-off stamp of approval Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:11, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

I made these edits. You need to say who claimed he was a child prodigy, otherwise it's just spam. If it was said by someone we have never heard of (ie, without a Wikipedia article) or someone with an obvious interest, take it out Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:31, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

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