Yob 1971

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Zeljko Ranogajec

Before making wholesale changes of obvious importance to an article, it's preferable to open a discussion on your intentions in the relevant article's Talk page. Coming to the specifics of the Zeljko Ranogajec entry, the person's secrecy/privacy is an important issue. The person is notable for the alleged size of his gambling and his purported winnings. None of this has been resolutely verified - and he denies it. He maintains a very private lifestyle, which inhibits verification. This is why it is important (and not at all "waffle") to include this information in the encyclopaedia. -The Gnome (talk) 19:32, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

It's already stated in the article that x and y are 'reported' or 'alleged' estimates. There is no need for an entire redundant section about this. Yob 1971 (talk) 07:09, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

That's exactly the point. It's easy to characterise something as "alleged"; the hard part is to prove that it is alleged - in other words, "not proven". As we know, it is impossible to prove a negative. Therefore, these particular attributes of the subject's private life (secrecy, privacy) corroborate the allegation that it could all be blown up out of proportion.

Plus, the intensively maintained privacy of some persons, profiled in Wikipedia, is often, when notable in itself, part of their life story. (Trivial example: Howard Hughes.) In the case of Zeljko Ranogajec, we have a clear desire from his part to remain out of the public light that makes it notable in itself. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 15:55, 2 July 2011 (UTC)