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Request for comment

Could you kindly comment about the most recent comments at Wikipedia_talk:Categories,_lists,_and_navigation_templates#Clarification_of_WP:FILMNAV. It would probably be more constructive to discuss my issues on the talk page than for me to institute change that I think are necessary in the guideline and then go back and forth endlessly. I have clearly stated a change that I think you should agree with, but you have chosen not to comment. I feel like you are baiting me by not responding. Please clarify on the talk page if and why you disagree with what I think is a clear flaw in the current language.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:09, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Years in Spanish football

Category:Years in Spanish football navigational boxes Almost all templates links to other templates and tangential links. Are you going to correct them? Xaris333 (talk) 12:46, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I agree, they could use some work. I may have a look at them some time. Alternatively, you could have a go at them, rather than spending your time re-adding the inappropriate links to the Cyprus templates. --woodensuperman 12:01, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

You will never go at them. We both know that you only want to change templates about Cypriot football. You will never edit templates about Spanish football. Xaris333 (talk) 12:17, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:CBS News Personalities

perfnav? Frietjes (talk) 15:27, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Nope, journalists. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:00, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Yep. Television performers. Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 October 1#Template:NBC News personalities. --woodensuperman 08:14, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

WP:EXISTING

What does WP:EXISTING have to do with removing a winner of Big Brother from a Big Brother template mentioning the winners? TheDoctorWho (talk) 13:54, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

There is no article, so there is nothing to navigate to. ----woodensuperman 14:00, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

There is an article it's list of List of Big Brother 19 houseguests (U.S.) and it was linked there.

Disruptive Editing!

I have noted that you adding a sort key to all articles of the TV series Castle_(TV_series). The sort key you are adding is grouping the articles of the series under the letter S here which is a misguided arrangement as per WP:MOS. The sort key would be perfectly fine if the TV series seasons were being sorted within a category of their own rather than that of the franchise which incorporates a myriad of other items. KagunduTalk To Me 10:54, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Firstly, it's hardly disruptive editing, and no reason for you to revert and remove them from the category without leaving an edit summary or trying to amend the sort key to something you deem more appropriate. Secondly, I disagree with your reasoning - I think sorting by the disambiguator is wholly appropriate in this case - they are "Season 1", etc, of Castle. What would you deem more appropriate? ----woodensuperman 10:59, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Like you said; "Season 1", etc, of Castle and not season 1 of Castle Franchise like your edits likely suggest. The sort key is used to sort items of the same nature in a given category. Your would belong you to the category say, Wooden,Superman if for example your common name is Wooden and not Superman. KagunduTalk To Me 11:10, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

You still haven't suggested something better. Or acknowledged that blindly reverting and removing them from the category completely is the only disruptive editing going on around here. --woodensuperman 11:13, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

I can't see any point in using an alternative sort key here. You could use "Television season x", but there would be no point. No-one is going to confuse "Season x" with anything else, and it's not like the category is heavily populated. I think they're in the right place. --woodensuperman 11:16, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Something better is to remove the sort key and the series shall appear under the letter C in the [[:Category:Castle_(franchise)]].Your edits were flagged by anti-vandalism tools and I reverted them under good faith edits since I believe your intention is not to vandalize wiki. It is not about the category being heavily populated, far from it.KagunduTalk To Me 11:22, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

No, that's generally a bad idea, as that could lead to lots of articles being sorted under "C". In the same way that episodes are sorted under "E" and characters under "C", seasons should be sorted under "S" --woodensuperman 11:36, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:Beethoven's funeral

perfnav? Frietjes (talk) 18:21, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

UGH! Not sure it applies, but the sentiment is the same. Have nominated. --woodensuperman 08:36, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Query regarding recent edits

I saw your changes at Template:The Little Mermaid. Are you aware that there was no consensus at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates/Archive_4#RFC:_Overhauling_the_Disney_franchise_templates_for_consistency?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:02, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Tony. I see there was no consensus regarding committing to a standard approach for all Disney-related navboxes. However that RFC has nothing to do with the fact that embedding one navbox inside another navbox is not the right approach. You either have one navbox for Disney and one navbox for Andersen, or you combine the two. As I stated in that discussion:

Basically, for a navbox's navigation function to be correctly employed, {{The Little Mermaid}} should always be transcluded over {{Little Mermaid}}. There should be no instances of transclusions of {{Little Mermaid}}, as any articles which transclude only this navbox will miss out on pertinent links, such as Hans Christian Andersen, and, oh, The Little Mermaid!!! Therefore, {{Little Mermaid}} is redundant and should be correctly merged into {{The Little Mermaid}}, not embedded. Alternatively, two separate navboxes are maintained, with a different set of links in each, so the missing pertinent links are included in the smaller navbox. --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:35, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

--woodensuperman 15:12, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Disruptive editing on the templates of Bill Condon and Chris Weitz and the related films

Give a good reason why you're undoing my editing work on the templates of these two filmmakers mentioned above as well removing the templates to their related films? You maybe stating that my editing work on these templates is a mess and preferring a previous version is good but not really, you didn't get a clear point that the screenplays of those two filmmakers that were credited had to be included as well given it's relevance as well the reception for example: Bill Condon's contribution such as Chicago and Chris Weitz's contribution such as Antz. Saiph121 (talk) 12:34, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, for a start they're a mess. If you really must include screenplays, you should only split out directed and written, not have a third section for directed only, etc. Secondly, in the case of Condon, per WP:PERFNAV, you should not include episodic television that he has directed or written some of the episodes of, as he is not considered the "primary creator" of that material. I'll go and clean your mess up again now. --woodensuperman 12:48, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

All right, consider the cleaning the mess done. Just make sure the screenplays are still included and don't screw all the hard work that i'm just doing for these templates. Saiph121 (talk) 15:20, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

"All the hard work"? Seriously? --woodensuperman 15:24, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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