User talk:V8rik/Archive 05

File:MetathesisROMPSchrock1993.svg

Hi. The Mo metathesis catalyst looks like it has two carbene ligands in this reaction scheme. I think that there is a nitrogen atom label missing to make the upper ligand an arylimido group. Mert0014 (talk) 10:32, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks, I going to check it out. V8rik (talk) 17:30, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
• I have checked the original article and changed the image accordingly. Thanks for spotting the error V8rik (talk) 17:28, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Tamoxifen

Hello, your image of the tamoxifen synthesis on the Grignard page is slightly wrong: It's missing an oxygen, it's a phenolic ethyl amine not a phenyl ethyl amine.

• Thanks, good call. I have replaced the image with a new one. V8rik (talk) 20:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

3PN

Hi, your scheme of the reaction in the hydrocyanation of butadiene to adipodinitrile has a small mistake. The molecule denominated as "3PN" is actually 4PN (4-pentenenitrile). 3PN isomerizes in the reactor to 4PN before beeing hydrocyanated. Hermann Luyken 2008.07.12 19:56 —Preceding comment was added at 17:57, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

DOPA catalyst

Hi, can you confirm that this is right? It looks right to me, but I'm on vacation and can't check the literature. Cheers, Walkerma (talk) 23:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Endoexoisomerism.gif

Heya V8rik

Thanks for your image. A few years on, standards have changed. I've recently drawn a replacement. Do you want to keep your original? Would you have any objections/comments about me speedying it? --Rifleman 82 (talk) 18:25, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Copolymers.png

Hi V8rik. I uploaded the image Image:Copolymers.png to Commons for use at swedish wikipedia, the article sv:Sampolymerer. I hope you don't mind. You can see the image page at commons:Image:Copolymers.png. If there are any problems, please give me a note at my swedish talk page, I'm afraid I don't check my account here often enough. Best regards // Mankash (talk) 19:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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Retinal - reference question

Hi V8rik, you have added a reference for the all-trans 13-cis isomerization pathway in type I or bacterial rhodopsin. It would be nice to have additionally authors and title of J Photochem Photobiol B. 2002 Apr;66(3):188-94 listed, too. Could you please try to help? Kind regards, --Drahkrub (talk) 19:34, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

V8rik is out of wiki office since 5th of May, when is wikibreak ends is unclear!!--Stone (talk) 21:01, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Molecular orbital image

The image MO_diagram_pi_orbitals.png, I believe, has a small mistake. The phase of the sigma* orbital should be reversed on the right side of the center node. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yertsivad (talk • contribs) 21:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back

It's good to have you back.--Smokefoot (talk) 23:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks! As always there is a lot of work to do V8rik (talk) 19:42, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Good editors are rare. And for me you are one of them! --Stone (talk) 19:50, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks again! V8rik (talk) 19:56, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Me too. You were missed. Few editors have added as much chemical content to Wikipedia as you have! --Itub (talk) 11:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Great that you're back - we missed you! Walkerma (talk) 14:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Nice to see you're back. I've been reading a bunch of your articles, and they're very helpful and informative. Crystal whacker (talk) 03:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Image:Aziridine.gif listed for deletion

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Talk:Alkane metathesis

FYI: I converted the references at alkane metathesis to inline citations. Thank you for writing part of the article. Crystal whacker (talk) 04:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

• Converting the references is an ongoing project and much needed, thanks. In the past I have been using refconverter http://teamgamer.org/cgi-bin/wikirefs.pl myself for some pages. V8rik (talk) 21:55, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

File:485.png listed for deletion

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• a misunderstanding: somone called User:Poggymoose vandalized my ligitimate image. I will try to repair the damage. V8rik (talk) 20:37, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Morphology (materials science)

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• Unacceptable, you cannot state: improve or expand this article or else I will delete it. Wikipedia is not a forced-labor camp. Take it or leave it. Google count 526,000 for "materials science" && morphology . Materials science and nanotech are all about morphology. V8rik (talk) 20:37, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

File source problem with File:RadicalPolymerization.png

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• the image upload facility was seriously down. I will have another try today. V8rik (talk) 20:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

N is for nitrogen

Hi. Again for the image of free radical polymerization of ethylene, could you change N to n both on the left of the image and in the title. The problem is that N looks like a free-floating nitrogen, whereas the degree of polymerization is usually n. Dirac66 (talk) 01:20, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

• Good call! I will make some changes to the image. V8rik (talk) 20:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
• Done V8rik (talk) 21:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Piloty-Robinson reaction.png

Hi, V8rik. As noted by User:FK1954 at Talk:pyrrole, there is an error in Image:Piloty-Robinson reaction.png. The product should be a dimethyl pyrrole rather than a diethyl pyrrole. Do you think you can fix it? I have marked the image with {{disputed chem}}, but please just remove the template if/when the image is fixed. Thank you. -- Ed (Edgar181) 01:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

• Image corrected! V8rik (talk) 17:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Thank you. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

A centralised discussion which may interest you

Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found here. SP-KP (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Methylcyclopropane

I was going to edit this thing but realized that I was in over my head. Some allusions to use in protecting groups and rxns that you might feel comfortable with. Glad to see that you still keeping an eye on us and helping out.--Smokefoot (talk) 03:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

• I am taking up the challenge! V8rik (talk) 21:29, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
  • The Thai or Greek (?) methylcyclopropane page is pretty extensive, so I have asked the responsible editor on that page for comments as well. V8rik (talk) 22:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Minor edits

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I would argue that the removal of several sentences in the Chemical reaction article is not a minor edit. Content was removed. Now, I have no dispute with the change, just in labeling it minor.

By the way, should the paragraph that you altered be bulleted? Ronstew (talk) 05:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the reminder, I should pay more attention with regard to minor edits / major edits. I do not see your point on bulletizing. It facilitates reading a text. An alternative would be converting the section to a table. V8rik (talk) 20:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

My point is that the rest of the section (except the introductory paragraph) was bulleted, but not the last paragraph. I thought you might have forgotten. Or should it stand alone? Ronstew (talk) 20:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

it should stand alone, not part of the list. V8rik (talk) 21:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Ronstew (talk) 21:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks on CH2O

I felt bad and worried about removing that material, so thank you for rescuing it. --Smokefoot (talk) 18:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

• We have found a good home for it! V8rik (talk) 20:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

liscensing

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slavefortheempire (talk • contribs) 00:04, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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Wolffenstein-Böters reaction

Should the Hg(NO₂)₂ in the WolfensteinBotersreaction.png be a Hg(NO₃)₂?--Stone (talk) 16:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks , took care of it V8rik (talk) 22:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Associative substitution

I saw that you requested this article or something like it. If you have any suggestions, let me know below (or edit away). I will then try an article dissociative pathway. Maybe the interchange mechanisms (I_d and I_a) could be discussed within these two articles. --Smokefoot (talk) 18:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

• Many thanks. The new articles look great V8rik (talk) 23:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

The factual accuracy of the chemical structure Image:Mannich-1.png is disputed

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• this image is not mine. Perhaps the image I have originally used in Mannich base has been replaced by one from commons and then the original was deleted. The dispute by the way really concerns a detail , an arrow pointing the wrong way. This commons policy of having an image removed when the dispute is not handled within one month is disturbing. You cannot bully people into collaborating with wikipedia: correct the work now or suffer the consequences. Our focus should be on expanding wikipedia and not deletions V8rik (talk) 16:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I just wanted to inform you. I am not talking about this, but about this dispute. --Leyo 14:50, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

• That does not change my position: better request someone to make a change to an image rather than setting an ultimatum. V8rik (talk) 23:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, I request you to make the change to the image. ;-) --Leyo 10:11, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Now this makes sense. I have replaced the two disputed images on Mannich base with a single new one and I have also updated the article in general. This should solve the issue V8rik (talk) 19:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Could you please upload the image on Commons as the disputed one is also used in mk:Манихова база? At the same time, you may want to correct the spelling of “formation” in the file name. --Leyo 20:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I am still not happy with the reaction mechanism at the new File:MannichBase forrmation base catalysed.svg because OH⁻ is not a good leaving group and a C⁻ seems to attack without a reason. en:Mannich reaction#Reaction mechanism shows it the way I learned it recently. Matthias M. (talk) 07:12, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

• Several comments:
  • this issue should be handled on the Talk page of the article in question, no need to address it on my Talk page.
  • remember that images of reaction mechanisms are cartoons and the level of detail will always vary
  • the image depicted is the less common base catalyzed Mannich , most people would be familiar with the acid catalyzed version only.
  • The image very closely resembles Jerry March, see reference one in the article.

V8rik (talk) 21:02, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not read that it was base-catalysed and you are right: I will ask questions on the article discussion page next time. Matthias M. (talk) 05:40, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Strecker degradation

Somebody added the Strecker degradation, and the chemical reaction drawing looks a little stange. You are the expert on name reactions and so I would ask you if you can have a look? Thanks --Stone (talk) 09:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

• I will see what I can do about the image but the concept itself is all about food chemistry , not exactly my topic. V8rik (talk) 21:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

OrganoP

You probably saw that I am re-organizing organophosphorus, which you championed. I hope that my work is okay to your eyes. I spun off phosphaalkene onto its own, and incorporated a bit of the remains into phosphine subsection, which is a stretch. In any case, if you still have the file, please tweak the left carbon substituent on Poly(p-phenylenephosphaalkene).png. If you could lay out the reaction linearly, it would fit better on a page, vs the two-line format. Best wishes, --Smokefoot (talk) 16:13, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

• Looks great, I have replaced the polymer image with Calvero's version V8rik (talk) 19:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Double bond table

Your double bond table is intriguing, so forgive my uninvited comments: It is striking just how small carbon is, such that CH₂O rapidly oligomerizes. Only with the "bulky" CH₃ ligand that the C=O becomes stable. Similar, C₂H₄ is only kinetically stabilized wrt to the polymer. Oxidation state is important in the categories, e.g. P=C for P(V) as in Wittig and P(III) as in phosphalkene, S=O/NR in S(IV) and S(VI) states. I think that RP=O and RPO₂ have been studied, or at least trapped. Many chemists (e.g., me) only like to think about chem near room temp and ignore species such as SiO and possibly SO that our high T friends think are important. In principle, your table could take a third dimension: with single, double, triple bond orders being the third dimension. Good luck with your project.--Smokefoot (talk) 00:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for your comments, the table needs a lot of work and I am not even sure if I will place it in an article somewhere. Complicated stuff V8rik (talk) 16:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I really like your Double bond rule article. It highlights the many existing articles on doubly-bonded compounds, which often have obscure names.

I've been making a few images in response to the new molecules your table has introduced me to, e.g. Commons:Category:Boraphosphabenzenes and Commons:Category:Phosphaalkynes.

Thanks for this great addition.

Ben (talk) 18:49, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

• Hi Ben , thanks, yes some of these compounds are very obscure. V8rik (talk) 21:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Steglich esterfication

Thanks for the article! I know Steglich and he is a nice guy and deserves a article for this. Most of his life he was hunting chemicals in mushroms. The DMAP is under investigation again and some really promissing faster catalysts have been discovered, but they will be expensive. Also a chiral DMAP has been developed by Gregory C. Fu in the late 1990s. --Stone (talk) 22:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

• Nice to know you like the article , but let me haste to add I did a translation (!) from the German Wiki. We have to thank one of our German colleagues for creating the article. V8rik (talk) 22:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Aerobic

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twirligig_T to^the C 17:40, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Asymmetric reductive amination

Talk:Reductive amination question related to your File:AsymmetricReductiveAmination.png. DMacks (talk) 17:16, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

• seen it, must dig up orginal article first, then report back V8rik (talk) 17:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

File:Gombergalg.png

Hi, your image File:Gombergalg.png was moved to commons, and as licensing has changed since 2006, it now has a license warning message on it. Can you correct it to what it has to be perhaps? Thanks. Deadstar (talk) 10:50, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Organoscandium chemistry

In Organoscandium chemistry, ScCl3, not SbCl3, etc.? --Vuo (talk) 21:57, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

• Jaiks, thanks for catching that one! V8rik (talk) 15:27, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

wp:DYK

since you are working on filling {{ChemicalBondsToCarbon}} template you may want to nominate some of your creations to DyK. Nergaal (talk) 01:04, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

also, you may find the {{chem}} template useful for all the reactions you are inputting. Nergaal (talk) 01:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the chem link , I have been giving it a try and it works! V8rik (talk) 19:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
  • No, somehow it broke V8rik (talk) 17:21, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

fenstrane

See remark on discussionpage of commons:Fenestranes.png. T.vanschaik (talk) 23:21, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Remove disclaimers

Hallo V8rik,

it is really amazing how many great images you contributed. I don't know if you are aware of how many of these images have already been tranferred to commons and are used on other wikipedias. I would therefore like to ask you if you are willing to remove the disclaimers from these images like this File:CubaneSynthesis.png. If so I would do this for you, you just have to write here that you agree to remove the disclaimers from your images. Also I found some images here that carry disclaimers and there it would be nice if you could remove the disclaimer:

• File:Grobfragmentation_example.png
• File:ArylleadCaryllation.png
• File:Phosphoniumylide_rearrangement.png
• File:Grobfragmentation_example.png
• File:Walden_inversion.png
• File:ArylleadCaryllation.png
• File:SimpleAmideFormationByCondensation.png
• File:MeisenHeimerWhelandComplex.png
• File:MeisenheimerComplex.png

Thanks a lot.

Cheers --Cwbm (commons) (talk) 13:49, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks!. everybody can do what they like with the images so by all means remove the disclaimers. The point is, I would like to do it myself but I do not know what exactly to remove(!). Each image appears to have two licences but only one tag. V8rik (talk) 20:13, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, that's great. I was told, it would be better if you removed the disclaimer. All you have to do is edit the page of the file and remove the "-with-disclaimers" ({{GFDL-self-with-disclaimers}} to {{GFDL-self}}). Cheers --Cwbm (commons) (talk) 06:48, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

• Done! V8rik (talk) 20:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Reductive_amination_acetophenone_ammonia.svg

Hi V8rik

I think you've dropped a trailing zero with regard to the pressure of the reaction. From Org. Synth., it should probably read 3500-5000 psi. Could you take a look? Thanks. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 02:06, 27 September 2009 (UTC) Done! V8rik (talk) 19:52, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

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Millon's reagent

Thank you for deeming that the article's problems are no more, and for removing the warning notice! --Kay Dekker (talk) 20:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hi Kay, and thank you for your effort on that page V8rik (talk) 17:30, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Autoreviewer

Hi, after reading one of your articles at newpage patrol I was surprised to see that an editor whose been here since 2005 hadn't been approved as an wp:Autoreviewer. So I've taken the liberty of rectifying that. ϢereSpielChequers 22:36, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Single point energy

Single point energy has nothing to do with Walsh diagram#Generating Walsh Diagrams. It is the jargon used in computational chemistry to indicate just calculating the energy at a fixed geometry rather than optimising the geometry. I am not sure, however, what it should be redirected to. --Bduke (Discussion) 22:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

• I have made a new redirect to Potential energy surface. Would that work for you? V8rik (talk) 19:34, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

It is probably best for now, but I have problems with your edit to Potential energy surface. First, it is a direct copy of the link you provide so maybe there are copyright issues. Second it is misleading. The single point energy is the total energy (potential electronic energy, kinetic electronic energy and nuclear repulsion energy) of a molecule. The single points provide the potential energy surface which is the potential energy for nuclear motion. I will see if I can find a better reference. --Bduke (Discussion) 23:00, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

• Added quotation marks. many of the other .edu links I have checked provide a similar definition V8rik (talk) 20:15, 20 December 2009 (UTC)