Thepuglover

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October 2021

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions; however, please remember the essential rule of respecting copyrights. Edits to Wikipedia, such as your edit to the page Boride, may not contain material from copyrighted sources unless used with permission. It is almost never okay to copy extensive text out of a book or website and paste it into a Wikipedia article with little or no alteration, though you can clearly and briefly quote copyrighted text in the right circumstances. Content that does not comply with this legal rule must be removed. For more information on this, see:

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I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Feel free to write a note on the bottom of my talk page if you want to get in touch with me. Again, welcome! — Diannaa (talk) 19:57, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Please don't copy from sources

I removed some content you added to Organobismuth chemistry as it was copied from the cited source. Please don't copy content from sources, thank you. Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI guide} 07:16, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

November 2021

Your edit to Organochromium chemistry has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. This is your final warning. Further violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy will result in you being blocked from editing. — Diannaa (talk) 14:32, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

December 2021

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating copyright policy by copying text or images into Wikipedia from another source without evidence of permission. Please take this opportunity to ensure that you understand our copyright policy and our policies regarding how to use non-free content.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  — Diannaa (talk) 13:25, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

I have blocked your account, because in spite of repeated warnings, you continued to add copyright material to Wikipedia in violation of our copyright policy. You cannot resume editing until you provide a statement describing how copyright applies to Wikipedia, show that you understand our copyright policy, and make a commitment to follow it in the future.— Diannaa (talk) 13:26, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

@Diannaa:

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thepuglover (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Greetings, Diannaa. I am sorry for giving the Wikimedia Foundation (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thepuglover) such a headache for not understanding the copyright policy. Sorry for not replying to previous messages. I now have learned my lesson and understand that I mustn't copy text directly from the source because of copyright. Since the consensus is the way of making decisions on Wikipedia, I am open to a period of being temporary banned. Big excuse once again and let's find a way, so I can, peacefully and without copyright violations this time, edit articles and help the really welcoming and helpful community of The Encyclopedia. Greetings and happy holidays, 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 08:46, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Decline reason:

In order to lift the block, we need to be certain that you understand how copyright works on Wikipedia. To allow the reviewing administrator to assess your understanding, please respond to the following questions in your next unblock appeal, explaining in your own words:

• What is copyright?
• How is Wikipedia licenced?
• Why is copyrighted content not allowed on Wikipedia?
• Under what circumstances can we use copyrighted content?
• How do you intend to avoid violating the copyright policy in the future?

Your answers will enable us to establish whether or not you should be unblocked. Yamla (talk) 10:51, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

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@Yamla: Greetings, Yamla!

• The copyright is an intellectual property that gives its owner the exclusive right to copy and distribute their creative work.
• Wikipedia is licenced under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and The GNU General Public License 2.0.
• Copyrighted content isn't allowed because it violates the Fair use and the rights of the creators of the creative work.
• Copyrighted content can be used under the Fair use limitations or when permission is acquired from the copyright holder. However, copyleft content can be used freely.
• I will follow the Fair use and Wikipedia's copyright Policy. I will follow Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing to summarize in my own words instead of closely paraphrasing while avoiding infringes on the copyright of the source material. Neither I will copy text directly from the copyrighted source.

Sorry for the late response. Yours, 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 10:09, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

No. Not only did you copy and paste your answer in violation of copyright, but your understanding of WP:FAIRUSE is simply incorrect. --Yamla (talk) 12:33, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

@Yamla: Greetings again Yamla. Now I see that my understanding of Fair use was incorrect: non-free content can be used in articles only if its usage would be considered fair use in United States copyright law and also complies with the Non-free content criteria; it is used for a purpose that cannot be fulfilled by free material (text or images, existing or to be created); and it has a valid rationale indicating why its usage would be considered fair use within Wikipedia policy and U.S. law. Looking foward for unblocking in the future and sory for the mount-late responce, 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 09:19, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

You have copy-pasted the above answer from Wikipedia:Non-free content. That doesn't show us that you understand our copyright policy and plan on following it in the future. In fact it does the opposite.— Diannaa (talk) 15:25, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

@Diannaa: Greetings a few mounts after, again, Dianna. I understand that I shouldn't copy text directly from the source, neither shouldn't I closely paraphrase. I will, instead, write the information in my own words and I will try not to give the Wikimedia Foundation such a headache with my misunderstanding of the copyright policy. If I still don't, please tell me what I didn't understand. Have a great day and looking foward for an unban, 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 10:37, 3 February 2022 (UTC).

Stating that you understand really doesn't prove that you do understand. Copying text in response to our attempts to get you to express your understanding does nothing to convince.— Diannaa (talk) 15:54, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

@Diannaa:@Yamla:

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Hello yet again. I am sorry for not understanding the copyright policy. It all just started when I thought I could just copy text from somewhere, add citation, and it is fine. As I learned the hard way, it isn't. To be fair, in the Bulgarian Wikipedia I have also had the same problem with some of the articles I have edited there (there I am an active and experienced editor). This was because I didn't understand copyright very well at the time. Nowadays, I still don't understand it completely and probably never will, but I, hopefully, have learned the basics from my mistakes. Now, to the answer to your questions: * Copyright is an intellectual property which gives it's author the right to distribute their work and copy it * Wikipedia is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License, as far as I understand because at the bottom of every page there is a line of text that says it * Copyrighted content is not allowed on Wikipedia because it violates the rights of the creators (which they have because of copyright) * Copyrighted content can be used if we follow the fair use policies: minimal use of non-free content, usage of free equivalent if possible, saying the things in our own words instead of very close paraphrasing, and of course, by citing our sources * I will hopefully do my best to not violate copyright: no more close paraphrasing or direct copying (btw Metallacarbaboranes is almost completely copied from the Encyclopedia of Inorg chem). If I have even the slightest concerns, I will ask other editors or even admins for help I am happy that you, despite my inability to not copy from source, probably have assumed good faith because at the time I really didn't know what exactly I was doing wrong. I, with all the understanding, would like to get a second chance to prove myself as a now more competent and better editor. Yours, 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 08:55, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Per below. — Daniel Case (talk) 05:52, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

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I am not comfortable unblocking at this time. While your answers are correct for the most part, you admit that you don't really understand, and that you have an "inability to not copy from source". The fact that some of your copying has been from books which we have no way to access will make it impossible for us to determine whether or not future additions are okay for us to keep.— Diannaa (talk) 20:23, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

@Diannaa:Hello again, Diannaa and Happy International Women's Day! I don't understand the Copyright policy perfectly, but I know that I must say the things in my own words (and not copy from the sources) and if I have even the slightest concerns, it will be my duty to ask more qualified editors and even give them a copy of the sources if possible. I understand that copying from books that you don't have access isn't helping at all but neither can we have all the books in the world (and since people have found copyright problems with the book I cited, at least someone else has it) nor the fact I edited some articles poorly means I will do it again. It has been over a year since I was blocked. A lot of things have changed, and so do I. All I wanted to do with my inadequate edits is to expand articles that need more love. Let's not turn my attempts at unblocking into Sisyphus work and if all I wrote until now didn't change your mind, please tell me what will make it comfortable for the Wikipedia admins to unblock me.

(If Smokefoot still needs the article for Metallacarbaboranes I can email him a PDF of the book)

Yours, 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 07:50, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Hello @Diannaa:! I understand your concerns about my abilities as an editor. I would like to know how I can improve myself, so I can get unbanned and how I can make my future edits accessible for other experienced editors who can help me get rid of my mistakes. Yours, 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 10:40, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I don't see a way forward here at this time. I would suggest that you edit the Bulgarian Wikipedia, or perhaps the Simple English one, and perhaps if you demonstrate there that you understand copyright policy maybe we can consider unblocking you in six months or so per the Standard offer. 331dot (talk) 11:51, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

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@331dot: Thank you for the fast response! I really value your help and I would like to know how do I demonstrate my understanding of copyright. In the past two years I have almost none copyright violations in the Bulgarian Wiki. There I am an active and trustworthy editor. Also, is there a way simple, non copyright-violating way to share my non-free sources. Yours, 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 13:34, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a place to merely share sources, it is a place to summarize them. Other than that I have nothing else to say that has not already been said above. 331dot (talk) 14:11, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 14:20, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

June 2022

@Diannaa:@331dot:@Yamla:@Star Mississippi:@28bytes:

This unblock request has been declined due to your history of vandalism and/or disruption to this encyclopedia. However, we are willing to give you another chance provided that you can earn back the trust of the Wikipedia community. To be unblocked you need to demonstrate and confirm that you are willing and able to contribute positively to Wikipedia. You can do this by:

• Familiarizing yourself with our basic rules.
• Reading our guide to improving articles.
• Picking any pre-existing article you wish to improve.
  • If you have trouble choosing an article to improve, see this index of articles needing improvement for ideas.

Once you have decided on the article you will propose improvements to:

• 1. Click the Edit tab at the top of that article;
  2. Copy the portion of the prose from that article that you will be proposing changes to. However:
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  3. Click edit at your talk page and paste at the bottom under a new section header (like this: == [[Article title]] ==) the copied content but do not save yet;
  4. Place your cursor in the edit summary box and paste there an edit summary in the following form which specifies the name of the article you copied from and links to it (this is required for mandatory copyright attribution): "Copied content from [[exact Name of Article]]; see that article's history for attribution."
  5. You can now save the page. However, if your edits will include any citations to reliable sources (which they should), add the following template to the end of your prose: {{reflist-talk}}. Once you have added the template, click Publish changes.
• Now, edit that content. Propose significant and well researched improvements by editing the selected portion of the article. Please note that we are not looking for basic typo corrections, or small unreferenced additions; your edits should be substantial, and reflect relevant policies.
• When you are done with your work, re-request unblocking using {{unblock}} and an administrator will review your proposed edits.
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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Hello administrators, I would like to propose my unblock request according to WP:SO.

In the last year and a half, I have been blocked indefinitely because of my copyright violations on a few articles and mostly because of my unfair use of The Encyclopaedia of Inorganic Chemistry. I had copy-pasted paragraphs of the book without permission, which I fully understand as my own mistake and as something that can't be done. I will do my best at summarizing my sources in only my words, using them adequately and according to Fair use. And if I have the slightest of a concern, I will always ask other competent editors, who will tell me if my text has copyright issues. In the same way, I will ask for someone else's opinion on the subject whether something can be copied because it looks like it is under free and open license.

I will ask for my second and only chance to prove myself as a competent editor. Yours, 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 10:19, 15 June 2022 (UTC).

Decline reason:

"without practise I can't improve myself". I'm sorry, but this is not a website where you can practice. You must already have an understanding of copyright to edit here. Once you demonstrate this understanding, you'll be unblocked. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:06, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

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I can't unblock at the present time. (1) You still don't understand that we don't use fair use for prose on Wikipedia. Everything you add needs to be written in your own words. (Short quotations are okay, but only when there's no alternative.) (2) If you're not sure whether or not your addition is violating copyright, I don't think you understand copyright sufficiently to edit here. (3) You don't seem to know how to determine the license of your source material. — Diannaa (talk) 10:33, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

@Diannaa Hello! Thank you for the responce and the usefull information. I would like to ask for my second chanse so I can practise my understanding and not repeat my mistakes anymore. I understand why you are uncomfortable with unblocking me, but, I just want to help the Encyclopedia. I see that my attempst weren't good at all, but without practise I can't improve myself. Please let me proove myself as a someone who will help Wikipedia. Yours, 𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 11:46, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

December 2022

@Diannaa:@331dot:@Yamla:@Star Mississippi:@28bytes:@NinjaRobotPirate:

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Thepuglover (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Dear Wikipedia admins, For the last two years I’ve been blocked because of copyright violations. At that time I’ve made over 1000 contributions, became an extended confirmed user, and created 20 new articles, in which I cited over 55 sources in the Bulgarian Wikipedia. While this isn’t much by the standards of English Wikipedia, it is a great improvement in my understanding of this site. I can certainly say that I write everything in my own words. I respect Fair Use and don’t violate Copyright with my contributions. If I have problems, I ask other, more knowledgeable editors, who help me greatly and I will use the {{Help me}} template. Yours,𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 09:09, 19 December 2022 (UTC).

Decline reason:

Declining per Diannaa's concerns described below. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

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References

Looking at two of your contributions at the Bulgarian Wiki, bg:История на Бутан and also bg:Икономика на Бангладеш. I can see that in each instance you copied most of the prose from another article on that wiki. What are you supposed to do when you copy from one Wikipedia article to another? Also, it's just more copypasting. These page creations don't prove that you know how to summarize sources in your own words, which is the key skill you need to prove to us that you possess. — Diannaa (talk) 13:33, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

@Diannaa: The text in those two articles was previosly in bg:Бутан and bg:Бангладеш. I moved the content to separete articles as part of bg:Уикипедия:Месец на Азия 2022. After that I added sources which stated that the presented information in these two articles is true. As a counterexample to your argument, see for example bg:Борани or bg:Български енциклопедии. I belive that moving information from one article to annother, if the sources support it, is not a bad idea.

Yours,𝕍𝕀𝕜𝕥𝕠𝕣 𝕐𝕒𝕟𝕖𝕧 (talk) 08:38, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Copying prose from one Wikipeda article is okay, but you have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. It's also required under the terms of our license.

Also, it does nothing to prove that you know how to create original prose; it only shows that you know how to copy, and we are already aware that you know how to copy; coping copyright material is why you are blocked.

The tiny bits you added to the two example articles are not convincing. — Diannaa (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2022 (UTC)