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Hi, Theklan:

I've included in the Code Talkers article the information that you requested about Basque code talkers, including the link to the investigation (in spanish). I don't know if you can act as reviewer and take a look to the update (it has to be reviewed yet).

Thanks a lot.

Hello! The edition is great... but I don't know how to act as a reviewer! -Theklan (talk) 08:33, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hello, I see no indication that you and your students are working through the Wikiedufoundation. The contact person is User talk:Shalor (Wiki Ed). I think it best you contact her before proceeding.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 19:49, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

@Dlohcierekim:. You can see it in Basque Wikipedia. I'm not asking to revert the article here, but to give me access to the text I want to move to the dorrespondent sandbox in the Basque Wikipedia. I don't think is difficult to understand. -Theklan (talk) 20:05, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

It's at User:Theklan/Mailegu kontratu. --Dlohcierekim (talk) 00:19, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

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You have reverted 3 times in less than 24 hrs, edit warring is not acceptable, see WP:3RR. If you do it again you will be reported. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 10:45, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@RichardWeiss: You have reverted 3 times in less than 24 hrs, edit warring is not acceptable, see WP:3RR. If you do it again you will be reported. -Theklan (talk) 10:54, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

To the contrary, I haven't reverted at all in the last 24 hours, you've been warned. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 10:57, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

so I'm reverting what you haven't reverted. Great. Report it if you want, so we can have an admin see how you are behaving. -Theklan (talk) 10:58, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

What are you talking about? It is standard procedure to warn new editors about 3RR. You didn't revert me but if you edit war again you are liable to be blocked. Claiming I have done something wrong isn't a defence. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 11:06, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@RichardWeiss: Do whatever you think you must do. I'm not here to discuss with you, but to make a better Encyclopedia. -Theklan (talk) 11:10, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Edit warring does not make a better encyclopedia nor does repeatedly linking to a dab page. I have done what I needed to do which is warn you re 3RR. No admin will block a new user who hasn't been warned, you now have. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 11:15, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm not a new user. -Theklan (talk) 11:18, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks, brilliant coordination between accounts! -Theklan (talk) 11:21, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring and violating the three-revert rule, as you did at Carles Puigdemont. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

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Request reason:

Did nothing wrong, but defending the neutrality of an article agains the agenda of two editors with lots of free time. Theklan (talk) 13:56, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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I'm sorry you think that. Your next block is likely to be indefinite. WP:EW is not an optional policy. Yamla (talk) 14:01, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I haven't make an edition war, I have reverted to the situation where there was consensus. Call it wikiarcheology. Theklan (talk) 14:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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" What we've got here is-- failure to communicate." No, seriously. Even if you are convinced you are right, you need to seek consensus on the article talk page, then seek dispute resolution. And clearly, from the discussion on the talk page, you did not have consensus. Contrarily, you acted against consensus.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:17, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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There was even a voting and a discussion in ANI. But hey! No answer there! I did nothing wrong, is not that I'm convinced I'm right, is that I followed the rules and they didn't. Theklan (talk) 14:19, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Given that you appear to be incapable of either understanding or admitting that you were in the wrong, allowing you to continue making unblock requests is a waste of time. Talkpage access revoked. I'm sorely tempted to extend the block as well, since I strongly suspect that you will continue to edit war on your return, but we'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:36, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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Dlohcierekim I haven't said that there was an ANI ruling in my favor. I have said there is an ANI whithout answers. -Theklan (talk) 14:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I saw. A lot of blather from disputants. A lot of hair pulling and kicking of dirt onto shoes. Nothing productive. I also saw your comment on the 3RR noticeboard. You really need to rethink your approach to seeking unblock.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:38, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Dlohcierekim: NOT true! He has offered very sensible reasons as to why Carles Puigdemont should be described as being Catalan. Calling him Spanish is offensive as he always describes himself as Catalan. I'm very surprised by your ad hominem remarks: 'blather', 'kicking of dirt onto shoes'. A general consensus has been reached, and Theklan acted on that. Unblock! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 15:53, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Llywelyn2000: I would like to make the rather obvious point that if consensus was truly reached, there would have been no need for Theklan to make four reverts in under 24 hours by themselves. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Stating "the rather obvious point" is not in the spirit of Wikipedia; please mellow your language. I'm also at a loss as to what you mean, for Theklan is but one person. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 16:15, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Llywelyn2000: Other editors agreeing with Theklan's change could have reverted to it. Instead, Theklan took it upon themselves to revert four times. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Theklan took it upon themselves - you say this for the second time; can you explain please? Or are you suggesting that he is not one person? He is a multitude? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 17:49, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Llywelyn2000: See English personal pronouns#Singular they. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:37, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Sounds like gender neutral language, perfectly acceptable nowadays, we don't know Theklan's gender, google it. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 17:59, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@NeilN: - 'himself'.

@RichardWeiss: - how horrible! Read his User profile! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 19:07, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Llywelyn2000: What is horrible? Nothing in the profile, ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 20:04, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Yamla, NeilN, Yunshui and Dlohcierekim for this lesson. Now I know that I need to convince three other editors to revert the co-ordinated efforts of the enemies of Wikipedia only two times a day. Great! Now... could you please resolve the problem we have with this three editors that are pushing the limits of common sense? -Theklan (talk) 21:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm going to generously assume that the above was intended as sarcasm... The dispute appears to have continued, so I've started an RFC on the talkpage (which is something that should have been done some time ago, IMHO). Hopefully a formal RFC will make it easier to establish consensus regarding the page. Yunshui ^雲_水 08:24, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

@Yunshui: I'm not intending to be sarcastic, just to note that I've been blocked because other users are WP:Game. I'm very happy this has happen, so the events now are going to be discussed faster and better. I assume good faith on you, I'm also an admin in two Wikipedia projects and I know that, sometimes, we are wrong in our decissions. -Theklan (talk) 08:29, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for contravening Wikipedia's harassment policy, as you did at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Iñaki LL. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

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{{unblock}} Can someone explain why I have been blocked? I don't understand the reason. Theklan (talk) 18:34, 7 July 2018 (UTC)}}

• I was still typing out the explanation when you replied. Here it is. Please do not misuse the block appeal template again or I will revoke your talk page access without further warning.

You are blocked because you showed up to an AN/I thread that was completely unrelated to you, and which you had no business involving yourself in, specifically for the reason of personally attacking BellenaBlanca, who has just recently had you blocked. Given the warnings already given to you above, it would not be unfair to indefinitely block you at this point. Instead, consider this is your last warning. If you engage in any further edit warring, grudges, battlegrounding, personal attacks, or harassment, or cause any disruptions of any kind, you will be blocked indefinitely. Swarm ♠ 18:43, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

@Swarm: Indeed, the AN/I wasn't about me, I was cited there by RexxS and then by BallenaBlanca who used an old version of my euwp userpage to say I was POV-editing. I think I'm defending myself when I have been cited. If you think this is strange behaviour, I will refrain from editing the AN/I, as I said here. I really don't have time for this discussion, but I was introduced by two other people.-Theklan (talk) 18:49, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

@Swarm: This is a really poor block. I indeed mentioned Theklan at ANI because BallenaBlanca had edit-warred against both Inaki and him - see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kortatu&action=history&offset=20180707 for an example of BallenaBlanca revisiting a previous dispute. Just look at the series of reverts by BallenaBlanca here and tell me that is not an edit war? Of course Theklan is entitled to comment at ANI on a tpic where he is involved. Now, I'm going to ask you to think again and unblock Theklan to let him defend himself. --RexxS (talk) 19:05, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

I think it's likely you're saying that because you were the one invited this harassment and committed the same personal attacks. Your own conduct in the thread was poor and counterproductive and I would ask you to refrain from escalating drama at AN/I like that in the future. We don't need to roll out the opposition party to yell "bias" any time a Catalonia dispute gets dragged onto AN/I. Swarm ♠ 19:27, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Swarm for your comment. As a matter of fact, I'm not even interested in continue with the discussion in the AN/I. All the positions are clear and I don't have time for that.-Theklan (talk) 19:18, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Alright, if you're willing to disengage from the AN/I thread, I will unblock you. Please note that the warning I gave you still stands. I understand it's frustrating, but these disputes are taking place all across the internet right now. If you cannot remain objective and abide by the behavioral policies, you need to bow out of the subject area. Swarm ♠ 19:27, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your understanding Swarm. Is BallenaBlanca who is not objective, is harassing me and editwarring constantly. It's me who is trying to open discussions and present facts. But as I stated, I don't have time for this discussions. At least, I don't have all the day to editwar and WP:BUREAU, as BallenaBlanca has. Please, resolve the AN/I, because that's the main goal of the comments there. Thanks again for your work. -Theklan (talk) 19:31, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

What you did in the AN/I thread was harassment. I'm sorry if you were pinged by someone there, but you made the choice to involve yourself, as well as the choice to use that as an opportunity to harass BellenaBlanca, for no other reason than that your personal beliefs differ and you have a personal issue about it. No one should be pretending either side doesn't have a bias and such it's a legitimate dispute that is not easily resolved, but you can't just follow people you have a bias against in order to try to discredit them. It's very straightforward. Swarm ♠ 19:06, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Sorry Swarm, I disagree on this. BallenaBlanca is reverting every edit I made (what I think is editwarring and harassment, by the way) and I have discussed it with him in two topics. One, Talk:Carles Puigdemont, where he lost. Now I have started a discussion in order to stop editwarring in Talk:Joseba Sarrionandia, where he refusses to comment, and has continued reverting changes in other articles after that (and I haven't done anything about that, as I have no time to discuss on every article he is POV-editing). If you read carefully the discussion in the AN/I you will see that he is the only one saying he doesn't have a POV, and ALL OTHERS DO (I do not have any political positioning, I just want to improve the encyclopedia and I look for neutrality. On the other hand, both Iñaki and Theklan openly declare their POV). By the way, yes, I have a POV in many topics, but I don't try to impose them (I open discussions about the topic instead of editwarring) and, of course, I'm aware I have a POV. I understand your opinion, but let me disagree. -Theklan (talk) 19:11, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

This is no doubt the way to proceed. Theklan was cited in the discussion, so he is on his right to participate. Furthermore, another editor with no direct participation in the dispute has intervened in the Incident's discussion, but has not even been warned of anything. Iñaki LL (talk) 00:41, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Hello again Swarm. As I noted in the AN/I, I have been cited three more times there today. I personally think BallenaBlanca is harassing me, I have asked him to stop, but I would like to know how I have to proceed according with our previous discussion here. -Theklan (talk) 21:38, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

@Swarm: Also RichardWeiss decided to delete one of my points unilaterally. He is in that AN/I without any call and he hasn't been warned about it and he is deleting comments there. Completely unacceptable. -Theklan (talk) 21:45, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Theklan, if you had pinged me here, I would have seen this conversation, which I did not see until recently, and I would have understood the situation and I would not have made you ping.

I only pinged you for being honest with you, so you would know I was talking about you (btw which you did not do here, neither in the previous messages nor in the last one ...). I had no choice but to mention you, as part of the explanation that has been asked to me in the thread of the AN/I.

Although it was unintentional, I have apologized in the AN/I and I do it here again. I will not ping you again. --BallenaBlanca 🐳 ♂ (Talk) 22:25, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

By the way, I pinged you twice, in two different messages, not three times. --BallenaBlanca 🐳 ♂ (Talk) 22:32, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

You are not the only one pinging, BallenaBlanca. I don't have to ping you, by the way, as you are harassing me, editwarring on topics you don't even understand and forcing situations where I have to defend myself from your disruptive behaviour without having time for that. I would ask Swarm to be so diligent with you as he has been with me, but the only thing I really want is you to stop editwarring with reality. -Theklan (talk) 08:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

How is it unacceptable to redact my own series of your diffs in response to something you said. Beyond ridiculous. The big difference between you and I is you engage in edit wars and I don't so don't compare my interventions on ANI with yours, esp as I was responding to YOUR comments. There are no guidelines preventing me from contributing to ANI so don't even go down the path of suggesting it. Nor did I use ANI to attack in the way you attacked Ballena Blanca there; he clearly needed some moral support after that. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 09:10, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

You have been so disruptive you even deleted a point BECAUSE YOU WANTED. On the other hand, I was blocked by Swarm because I commented on an AN/I where I was cited. You are there saying this and the other without being cited, making ad hominem citations about my nationality... but no warnings at all. -Theklan (talk) 09:14, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

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Basque language was his mother tongue, as it has been deduced from indirect data. And that he also did so in Spanish is unequivocal, as can be seen in the interrogations and letters.

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Theklan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I'm not blocked, but sometimes I work from the University. Their IP is 158.227.0.240, and it seems blocked at English Wikipedia even for logged-in users. Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy, or it shouldn't, is from the University. The IP address I'm currently using is 158.227.0.240. Theklan (talk) 09:31, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Accept reason:

I've granted you WP:IPBE for a week, which should get you through the current IP proxy hard block. Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:04, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

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Plant

Hi Theklan, many thanks for your intention to improve the Plant article. I'm sorry to have to drop in here, but we simply need more care with edits on this article. Firstly we have an ongoing discussion about medicinal plants, which you summarily ignored to add some rather highly-coloured material straight into the lead section; I've commented on that on the talk page. Then you added an image down in the culture section, not noticing a) that there was no room there, so the images flowed straight into the reference list, and b) that we in fact already had a suitable but commented-out image right there in that section, immediately adjacent to your addition: commented out exactly because there was no room. The article is, further, in the GAN queue, so it is painful to have to revert anything, even when it is plainly necessary. I'd be really glad if we could discuss any further changes before they go into the article, please. Many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:45, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Ok! Sorry, I am translatin for the Basque Wikipedia and adding some extra content and I thought this was interesting to add. Theklan (talk) 08:47, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

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