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As I have explained to you already, while I have no problems citing scientific literature I'm still learning the ropes of citations from none scientific sources. Some patience with correction of my technical mistakes in order to show by example what it should look like rather than your only approach so far of complaining and reversing all edits quoting a technical reason, sometimes invalid, would be more constructive.

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You will note that in his response to you AstroLynx makes many allegations but fails to provide any evidence to support them. 94.0.175.75 says that the "long-term abuse" allegations are fictitious and AstroLynx has provided no evidence to the contrary. The ANI discussion will archive (unless anyone posts further) after 07:19 New Zealand time Tuesday, 8 October. Before it does, you can protect yourself by pointing out that you are being bullied by unscrupulous people. The administrator AstroLynx refers to, Future Perfect at Sunrise, works hand in glove with them. Well-known in the community, he has been the subject of more complaints to AN, ANI and ArbCom than anyone else and has been de-sysopped as a result (the word "de-sysopped" means "unfrocked"). He is the one who made the claim 94.0.175.75 refers to in the final sentence of his/her comment at Talk:Calendar reform. If we're pursuing analogies, the name Judas Iscariot would be appropriate. Take care and all the best. 77.101.226.208 (talk) 15:56, 7 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Hi Dan,
thanks for your info. I hadn't realized that reusing content within Wikipedia required acknowledgement as it was all internally recorded anyway. In this case all the content I moved was written by myself so I'm not going to upset the author. So far over the years I haven't copied anyone else's work so there is no one else I might have upset either. My intention was to see if the content was acceptable on the new page that is more relevant to the content, and if it was, remove much of it from the original page where it is less related to the article and refer it to the more appropriate page instead. It's only been on the new page for a day or two so I'll wait a bit longer before removing the content from the old page.
The attribution process you outline sounds complicated if done after the copying is already complete. As it all relates only to text generated my myself hopefully its OK not to acknowledge the copying in the exact way required this time and try and remember to do it next time.
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Thanks. Some of the text you copied (e.g., In the simplest vertebrates [...] pushes the lens backwards. as well as the preceding paragraph) was originally contributed by another editor in 2009 (see this diff by Anaxial for example). That's why it's typically easier just to provide the attribution rather than keep track of all that in order to satisfy attribution requirements. In this instance, I've already gone ahead and added the attribution in a subsequent edit summary (see here) so it really is quite simple to go back and do it if you forget. DanCherek (talk) 22:15, 2 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I understand attribution is important for Wikipedia as a principal and the work of some people contributing to Wikipedia focus on maintaining these principles. Whether the text you ascribe to Anaxial for example actually was written by them, or whether it was just "tweak copied" from a text book doesn't concern me otherwise I'd have become a lawyer. I'll avoid using the copy/paste function in future as additional procedures tend to slow my work. By you making sure my copy/paste is ascribed to him means I can't be sued so thanks.
However, in practice, I don't think it is right to attribute smaller copy and pastes to the previous authors. For example, with the accommodation article in question, descriptions of the more controversial theories of how land based vertebrates focus appear twice in the same section. Once under a general heading of vertebrate lens theories "External forces" and one a subset of that under "Theories on how humans focus". In the case of the human subset it is someone else's description that seemed to ignore all other mammals and the interior forces in lenses altogether. I could have copy and pasted their description of the theories to the section I wrote but mostly rewrote them anyway. I may have copied sentences from the original but don't recall doing so. Even if I had, in the new context the possibly "copied" sentences regarding lenses gain different meanings so I would be wrong to attribute these sentences to others who may not have intended them to have these new meanings. For example, the person writing the older description may believe the theories only apply to humans and so should not be used with other animals. Or they may believe internal forces in the lens do not contribute to the focusing of the eye and so the external theories they describe should not be included with them. I was tempted to delete the original attempt at describing the "human" theories in the article but in the context they are in they do take on a different meaning so I decided not to. In the "Talk" for the article I suggested a new article on human accommodation be established and the information be moved to there.
I'm starting to introduce more and more illustrations. Most, though not all images used by me, I've drawn and uploaded to Wikimedia myself, mainly for eye lens anatomy. For those I haven't uploaded, even though the same pictures can mean entirely different things in different contexts, I presume linking back to the image file in Wikimedia is sufficient. I haven't necessarily been referencing them back to the article I first saw them in, and I often completely change the caption of the image when it appears in the article I am editing so that it fits the text. If these practices also violate procedures let me know and I'll limit images only to those I generate myself. Tgru001 (talk) 03:28, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I am simply pointing out that your original statement that all the content I moved was written by myself was not correct. Thank you for committing to following the attribution guidelines in the future, as this is required by the terms of the Creative Commons license and Wikipedia's terms of use. It takes only a couple seconds to write "moved from [article]" in the edit summary prior to hitting Publish. DanCherek (talk) 12:22, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
My statement all the content I moved was written by myself" may be incorrect in your mind as you have shifted it's context from my original placement to the context of attribution rules. In my mind it still portrays the meaning I intended correctly when I used the sentence, especially since the intent behind the statement is known only by me, not you. I believe you are attributing meaning to my statement that wasn't intended by changing it's context. Sound familiar? Stop doing false attributions? Tgru001 (talk) 21:03, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

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