Tat1642
Hi, I noticed User:Ivan Štambuk's revert of your edits to this template, and noting he had not informed you of this I thought I'd welcome you and drop you a line about what is currently happening regarding this article. Template:Slavic diachronic is currently undergoing a debate between me and Ivan about two revisions of the article. I am working with this revision while Ivan is pushing his revision. You had the unfortunate luck to walk in and have your attempts to improve the template met with cynicism from Ivan in his struggle to get his view of the template accepted as the valid current version. The version I am trying to get accepted is one that reflects the current status of the relevant Wikipedia articles. The version Ivan keeps reverting back to is one of his own custom design, in violation of the WP:OR policy of the English Wikipedia. Since you appear to have an understanding of the linguistics involved in the debate, I would welcome you to read over the Template talk:Slavic diachronic and contribute your thoughts on the matter. Once, again, welcome to the English Wikipedia, we hope you enjoy your stay, and apologies on behalf of User:Ivan Štambuk. +Hexagon1 (t) 04:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- That is not "my revision", it's the original scheme before User:Hexagon1 butchered it. That scheme has support in all Slavic dialectology books and historical linguistics handbooks, wile Hexagon1's is a result of his imaginative, naive and ignorant perception of what he imagines to be the "real" state of afairs. As he has no knowledge on the subject, and has not even bothered to read what I wrote on the talk page of problems of his inventive "nodes", it's his version that it is in fact OR, and which he so arrogantly and ignorantly (these two usually come in pair) has strive to push it, casting me as some "OR pusher" or "nationalist". --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 09:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
While your efforts to sort out the order of the discussion were admirable and with the best of intentions there are possible complications arising from editing and reordering other people's comments unless necessary. You have also changed the indentation causing it to appear I was replying to a different comment than I actually was. I don't mind you trying to fix the order but some people might which is why I'm giving you a heads-up. You may also want to know there has been a new issue raised regarding Bulgarian-Macedonian, so if you wish to contribute I recommend you have a peek at the talk. +Hexagon1 (t) 05:40, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Native Russian speakers edit
Per this edit summary, native speakers are able to provide a massive amount of expertise for their language but there are some things that they're not naturally conscious of or knowledgable in; phonetic particularities of vowels or consonants is one of them. In this particular case, sources can be (and, in this case, are) used to find out those sorts of details. If you'd like to discuss the issue of whether dental consonants are phonetically hard or soft before soft labial consonants, there's a related conversation already present at Wikipedia Talk:IPA for Russian with some unresolved issues that you can contribute to. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 21:27, 21 August 2010 (UTC)