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I'm a master of user boxes? News to me.

Hi Sympa. I wouldn't call myself a master of userboxes, though I have managed to make a couple. Mostly if I want a userbox I look thru the galleries at the bottom of this page. They show what the usebox looks like and tells you what to type to transclude it on your page. The top of that page has instructions for grouping the userboxes.

The few times I've wanted to make a new userbox I've found one that's similar to what I want, go to the page where it is housed, click "edit", copy the code that appears, go to a page with the title I'm giving it, paste the code there and save the page (that way I always have an original to work from and revert back to if I totally screw things up). Then I modify it and make judicious use of the preview button and through trial and error eventually get it to where I'm happy with it. Then I save it. I really don't know what I'm doing with them, I just mess around until it looks right.

As for tables, I find them extremely confusing when I'm in the edit window, and avoid messing with them as much as possible. I don't think I'm quite up to creating them, much less trying to teach someone else. Help:Table has some instructions for creating a table. If you've got questions about tables, you might want to ask on the talk page for that page.

If there's anything else you want to know, ask me and I'll do my best to answer. :) ~ ONUnicorn (Talk / Contribs) 03:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

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Gosh you write well, and show great perception. It's taken me years to develop skills that seem to be natural to you, and I'd still trust you over myself to observe and document, especially with people. Thanks for letting me know my comments were helpful for you.

I often find Wiki difficult. I write about sex, politics and religion, so what should I expect, lol. ;)

Actually I don't write about politics, I'm not interested in it. Unfortunately, sex and religion are politicized, that's the problem. Wiki ought to be free of censorship, not a vehicle for it. You're right about the debate pages being an outstanding feature of Wiki. I guess I'm disturbed that the "edit" link at Wiki is mainly used to delete. I'm less concerned about blatant POV pushing, at least that could stimulate positive contributions of opposing POVs and sourcing. People take the easy way and delete.

I'm concerned that a culture of "deletionism" (even when not censorship) is developing. Quantity is not mutually exclusive with quality, and deletion only improves things in cases of redundancy, which are rare. But I'm not going to go and debate this in all the right places. I'm going to stick to setting an example ... contribute and defend contributions (without "owning" them).

I have some buddies now, that helps me a lot. I don't ask them to help with issues, just let off steam sometimes.

If your contributions in RL are as quality as your contributions here, your friends are lucky. If even a fraction of what you give was returned to you, you'd be well-off indeed. Cheers Alastair Haines 05:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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To be honest, I am not sure what is the appropriate procedure here. The image is just the cover of a book. I contacted the author to obtain authorization of using that image. The author never responded. When I look at the cover of the book, I don't even see an explicit copyright associated with that image. Similarly, just about every Wikipedia book page has an image of the cover of the book. And, I intuit that the majority of them were not published with a documented authorization from the author. Sympa (talk) 21:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Thomas Halliday (scientist) (July 6)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Thomas Halliday (scientist) (July 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 18:37, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Thomas Halliday (scientist) (July 10)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by SmokeyJoe was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: This young scientist does not meet WP:NPROF. Read that guideline.

The first reference under recognition contains the following text on the subject, only: “Thomas Halliday was awarded the John C Marsden Medal for the best doctoral thesis in biology.” This is not significant coverage, if you think the subject is to be tested against the WP:GNG.

The subject specialises in mammal evolution, and yet Evolution of mammals does not mention him? Is he notable in the field of his speciality? It looks like “no”.

If you disagree, follow the advice at WP:THREE.

SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:37, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

You use the Wikipedia article "Evolution of mammals" as a criteria whether an evolutionary biologist is notable or not. But, the later article is not a repository of noteworthy evolutionary biologists, but instead a taxonomy of mammals through the ages. Halliday has published and copublished a bunch of scientific articles within his scientific domains that have gotten much traction. He has also written a book on the subjects for the general public that has received an excellent reception.

In view of the above, may I invite you to reverse your decision. Sympa (talk) 16:21, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

At AfD I would !vote to delete. You might read WP:DUD and WP:DRAFTOBJECT. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 20:55, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

What he has written is not what’s important. What’s important is what others have written about him. His articles have gotten traction? Where are sources that describe that traction? He’s written a book that was well received? Is the book notable, see WP:NBOOK. Are there independent reliable sources that review the book and its author? This is a good review of the book, but it is not saying much about the author. SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

The three sources for the book almost provide enough demonstration of notability for the book. What they lack is contextualisation for the book alongside other books. The first review almost does this, and the second and third do not. The book is almost Wikipedia-notable, the author is not. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:00, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

SmokeyJoe, your most recent comment is pretty constructive. In all fairness, I have not read the book. So, I am at this stage not prepared to do a Wikipedia page on it. From what you are saying, it seems that it would not take much to make a Wikipedia-worthy page on it [the book].

As far as the author is concerned, I would advance that he is or should be Wikipedia worthy. He has won awards and recognitions from different relevant institutions. Earlier you said that "what he has written is not what's important", however, when you look at a lot of similar pages, the majority of their footprint on contemporary times or history regards what they have actually written.

However, I don't want to extend this debate any longer than is mutually fruitful. And, out of respectful consideration I defer to you whether you vote to delete this draft or not. Sympa (talk) 23:14, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

On his awards, what matters is not the awards, but others reporting on him receiving the awards, with some comment on him and the award. What would really make the case is on independent comment comparing him to other palaeontologists. Or book writers. In the meantime, the book looks to be a hit, but what’s required are critical, contextualising reviews. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:30, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Also, if I am not rambling on too much, on books, and awards: If you think a person is notable because of books, or awards, ask, is the book notable? Is the award notable? That is, do they have Wikipedia articles? Consider writing an article on the book, and awards. Do they have comment from independent sources? The author of multiple notable books, or the awardee of notable awards, will be presumed to be Wikipedia-notable. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:53, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

I very much welcome your comments. I may give a second shot on creating a page on Thomas Halliday. But, I would recreate the page pretty much from scratch with a much stronger foundation following your guidance. The foundation includes my having created a Wikipedia page on his book, "Otherlands." It also included my adding Thomas Halliday's contributions to the field of paleontology and paleobiology with another scientist in terms of furthering our understanding of mammal evolution after the dinosaurs' era. All of that is associated with many references and citations. In view of the above, I would think you would be encouraging of recreating a page on Thomas Halliday. But, if you feel otherwise please let me know upfront. I'd rather save the time now, than waste the time later :) Sympa (talk) 01:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Ways to improve Compact letter display

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Your draft article, Draft:Thomas Halliday (scientist)

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:36, 10 January 2023 (UTC)