Steve The Squid

September 2019

Constructive contributions are appreciated and strongly encouraged, but your recent edit to the userpage of another user may be considered vandalism. Specifically, your edit to User:Bonesiii may be offensive or unwelcome. In general, it is considered polite to avoid substantially editing others' userpages without their permission. Instead, please bring the matter to their talk page and let them edit their user page themselves if they agree on a need to do so. Please refer to Wikipedia:User page for more information on User page etiquette. Thank you. Toa Nidhiki05 15:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey. If you're going to revert edits, at least only revert the rude edits, not the truthful edits.

His talk page says he's no longer active on wikipedia. He shouldn't have any publicly editable information claiming to be a moderator, just because it's impolite to edit it. You and I both know he was disgracefully ejected from BZPower staff long ago, and you and i both know it was for gross reasons, and i'm not talking about incompetence. Don't go defending him or else i might think you're like him. - Steve

Doesn’t matter. He can say he’s a talking squid there, it’s his own talk page - he can do pretty much whatever he wants on it. There is almost never a situation where editing another user’s page is acceptable. Toa Nidhiki05 12:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Yknow you can just ignore it. There's no guilt on your conscience if you look the other way. I'm fixing his page, and you shouldn't care about upholding his intent unless you're his boyfriend. There's nothing morally wrong with what I'm doing, you just like the little dopamine rush you get when you think about how being a wikipedia editor gives you a teeny tiny bit of power.

If you're going to insist on being a Bonesiii apologist, is there a way to report his talk page to wikipedia for spreading misinformation? I've had talk pages on accounts that I owned reverted many times, clearly it is not entirely up to the owner to decide what is allowed on a page. -Steve

I don’t care about whatever drama you are talking about. You can’t edit someone else’s page, period. Toa Nidhiki05 13:03, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

It's not drama. You might have been able to call it drama 10 years ago or whenever it happened, but the fact is he's not a moderator of BZPower anymore, and it was because he was grooming members. This isn't disputed, it's not drama, nobody is even talking about this anymore because he's completely irrelevant. But it's a commonly known, indisputable fact, and his talk page hasn't been updated since it happened.

Don't bullshit me on wikipedia's rules for editing help pages. If they didn't want other users to be able to do it, it wouldn't even be possible. Here's a refresher on Wikipedia's policies pertaining to incorrect information on user pages. These quotes (in the order they appear in the article) are from the page Wikipedia:User Pages.

1) "[User pages] are not a personal homepage, and do not belong to the user."

2) "Most community policies including No personal attacks and Biographies of living persons will apply to your user space, just as elsewhere. "

And in case you don't know about Wikipedia's policy on Biographies either, here's a few quotes from that article. "We must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources." "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion."

3) "In general, it is usual to avoid substantially editing another's user and user talk pages other than where it is likely edits are expected and/or will be helpful."

4) "Handling inappropriate content... On others' user pages... If the material must be addressed urgently (for example, unambiguous copyright, attack, defamation, or BLP reasons, etc.), the user appears inactive, the edit appears unlikely to cause problems, and you are quite sure the material is inappropriate, then remove or fix the problem material minimally"

So to recap: The page doesn't belong to Bonesiii and I am free to edit if it further's Wikipedia's agenda, Wikipedia has a strict policy against incorrect biographical information (which includes user pages), and not only am I allowed to correct that information, but it's in fact expected for me to do so, immediately and without warning. I even did so (relatively) minimally, retaining all of the achievements Bonesiii originally included on his page but changing them to past tense. If Bonesiii no longer wants those achievements on his page, he can come back and remove them himself. But policy dictates that until he does so, I must edit all of his information to be unbiased and factual, whether it's positive, negative, or neutral.

I understand that I didn't go about it the right way, by including defamation. But you violated Wikipedia's policy too when you knowingly reverted his page to contain incorrect biographical information. I'll be editing his page in the properly accepted manner now and i hope we won't have to continue this conversation. - Steve

Wow. I just noticed that you've already been warned for inappropriate editing of biographies, in June. I think you need to get off this power trip of injecting your religion and politics into Wikipedia and get a different hobby. Normally I'd suggest Lego, but I don't want you in my community either. - Steve

I don’t know what your problem is. I don’t care what this user has done anywhere else, but you are not allowed to edit other people’s user pages and you are certainly not allowed to add insulting content. Period. It’s the user’s page, they can do whatever they want with it within reason. It’s not a biography and the rules for biographies don’t apply to user pages. You literally have no idea what you are talking about and I’m going to ask you desist or else you’ll be blocked for violating policy.

Also, please sign your posts with ~~~~. You are clearly not familiar with the rules here, but that is a really basic one. Toa Nidhiki05 14:00, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Do you not know how to read or what? I'm quoting wikipedia's own policies here. User talk pages are biographies. Again, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_pages#Editing_of_other_editors'_user_and_user_talk_pages "Most community policies including No personal attacks and Biographies of living persons will apply to your user space, just as elsewhere." You have literally no idea what you're talking about. I have less than 20 edits on my account and I know more about their policy than you. This is absolutely pathetic. You'll find my current edit is completely neutral for the sake of facts, no insulting content present. I refrained completely from editing other unfactual yet non-biographical information despite it being prevalent in his page.

And I hope you realize the irony in telling me that anyone is allowed to do what they want on their user pages, but I have to sign them a certain way. It's so painfully obvious that you don't give a shit about rules and are only on wikipedia to get a power trip off arguing with people. You can't just pick and choose when to apply rules when they make you win. You can't just go around editing people's biographical information because you don't like the truth. Make another false edit and I'll push to have your account blocked too. -Steve

Read Wikipedia:SIGLINK and get back to me. Toa Nidhiki05 17:45, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

All you've got on me is being obstructive on my own page. Read Wikipedia:USERPAGES and get back to me. We can talk again when you aren't defending yourself breaking actual rules. -Steve