Stephen LaBerge
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The following votes are regarding the Stephen LaBerge article in the main namespace, which has now been delisted. All votes here from now on should be about the user page.
Not sure if this person is notable enough for an encyclopedia article to be written about him. In any case, the user page should be deleted since he does not appear to be an actual registered Wikipedia user. Exabyte (talk) 04:39, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)
Delete. Article does not establish notability; by following the link it seems he has his own "Lucidity Institute" which sells seminars and that kind of stuff. Smells more like advertising. --Ianb 07:33, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)- keep, article much improved and provides basement for judgement. --Ianb 10:10, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Stephen LaBerge has done a lot of research in the field of Lucid Dreaming. You a free to call him a quack, a fraud, moneygrabber, whatever if you want, but I think he is notable. The article needs some work, I'll expand it a little later. Darksun 10:44, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- if you can expand I'd be willing to reconsider. It's getting so hard to differentiate between link spam and notable but poorly described people, alas. --Ianb 11:33, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- 'Absolutely KEEP Stephen LaBerge'. I must have read some of LaBerge's books when I was no more than fifteen years old. We'd do just as well to get rid of the article on Paul Krugman. - RedWordSmith 16:34, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. He is notable. And yes, he's making a living from the lucid dreaming business and I've no idea whether he's generally considered fringe or conservative by those into that kind of thing. But we have an article on Sigmund Freud who did the same thing and is now largely considered to have been a decepive crank by researchers in the very field Freud founded. And the article at the moment seems NPOV to me. Jallan 18:27, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable person of interest. --Viriditas 10:00, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable. If you're not sure, don't list it here. anthony (see warning) 20:33, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Please add your votes regarding the user page here:
- Delete User:Stephen LaBerge as there doesn't appear to be one. No vote on the article. -- User:Docu
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- What check has been done to see if this is a valid user? Has anyone checked the DB? anthony (see warning) 23:45, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Status of user page edit
The userpage of Stephen LaBerge was just a cut-and-paste of the "Stephen LaBerge" article performed by Stephen Gilbert in May 2002. I've therefore done some history fiddling on the Stephen LaBerge article and the userpage. There was probably no registered user by this name. However, accounts that were created before February 2002 and then abandoned, which was the case for Mike Dill for example, weren't automatically registered in the Wikipedia database and were created manually. There is no evidence of such a user in the Nostalgia Wikipedia, but not all page history was saved from the early days of Wikipedia, so we'll probably never know. I've created an account named "Stephen LaBerge" and undeleted this talk page because it contains historical discussion. Graham87 02:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)