User talk:Smallbones/list articles

Eligibility questions should go here for the photos at Commons:Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 in the United States/List for the WLM-US contest. Please let me contact the photographer and remove photos if needed. The relevant rule is "The subject of the photo must be a site listed on the National Register of Historic Places" or on the List of California Historical Landmarks. I interpret "site" as being a geographical term, e.g. it doesn't have to be of a building but might be of a garden or something similar.

The need for this review is that uploaders may not have the correct building or site, or may have photographed a site just outside a historic district. There should not be any blame assigned here. It's hard enough for experienced WP:NRHPers to make sure they've got the right site - I've done similar things myself several times. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 01:43, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Potential problems

1. File:West Paden Covered Bridge 4.jpg - the original bridge was swept away in a flood in 2006 and the current structure was (re)built in 2008. I assume this means the replacement bridge is no longer eligible for the NRHP? (This is my photo, by the way) - up to the photographer, sb

   While it is still technically on the NRHP, my assumption is that the reconstructed bridge is no longer eligible for the NRHP (since it is about 4 years old now, not 172). In my efforts to get photos of all of Columbia County's covered bridges, I found that there are three still listed on the NRHP which are gone (two arson, one dismantled and in storage), plus this one destroyed and rebuilt. I am OK with removing it from the contest, unless someone thinks otherwise. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:45, 11 October 2012 (UTC). OK, but I really liked the pic! Smallbones_(smalltalk) 21:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC) Thanks very much - I have a slightly different stitch of it that I may upload now that it is not part of the contest. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:56, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

2. File:Chicago_symphony_at_grand_park_ouda.JPG - Grant Park (Chicago) was listed on the NRHP in 1993, but this is a picture of Jay Pritzker Pavilion in Millennium Park, which opened in 2004. Until 1997 the land that became Millennium Park was Illinois Central rail yards and parking lots. So the pavilion shown was not built in 1993 when the park was listed on the NRHP, and the land it sits on is almost certainly not part of the NRHP listed part of the park. - I think it's on the site, sb

Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 16:20, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

1. for Arena Cove Historic District, California, the nominated pic File:Arena Cove Historic District-19.jpg is a "nature" picture of cliffs and starry sky, not a picture of any contributing historic resource within the district. I think it should not be eligible as it is not a picture of the "monument", though I haven't checked the rules. -- You may be right on this, I'll check what the photographer says. I read the nomination as mentioning "nature" in about 4 lines out of 7 pages. More important - the hill is probably viewed from the HD, but not in it, to the extent I can read the map. - sb
2. for Forts Baker, Barry, and Cronkhite, the nominated pic File:Fort-Baker-Sausalito-Florin-WLM-33.jpg picture is of a historic-looking church that I guess probably is located within the large area of the historic district, but it is not specifically identified as a contributing building within the nomination, from 1973. I think this is not a problem. For recent HD nominations, every single contributing building, structure, object is listed. For older ones, the specific buildings are often not listed. I say call this one eligible. --doncram 19:46, 10 October 2012 (UTC) -- agree, sb

1. Most likely, File:314-Hubbell Trading Post.jpg is for Hubbell Trading Post National Historic Site (see other photos), which is a NHL but not an NRHP, and not for Lorenzo Hubbell Trading Post and Warehouse (see for instance here - this one is in Winslow, has the same address as the NRHP listing, and is clearly signposted). For the time being, I am removing it from the list.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Good catch for the two Hubbell trading posts, this one is the NHS, it is in Apache County, but like all NHLs except 3, it is also an NRHP site. I've corrected the info on the pic at Commons and will include in the contest. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 21:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)