Skoulikomirmigotripa

Macedonia Edits

Hi there @Bazza 7: I hope you'll consider instating my recent edits to Macedonia (Greece) page. You reverted them on the basis that I standardized the article to AmE when BrE was already in use. Given that the bulk of my edit was improvements to Lang Template use and correction of the Greek IPA, I hope you will at least instate those edits.

As for which English is used in the article. If you check the article before my edits you'll find that with the exception of the two words whose spelling I changed, that article contains exclusively AmE spelling and not BrE. Also, you'll note that there was no label on the article dictating which standard should be used.

Give that most words in the article were already in AmE, that there is no reason for this article to be one or the other, and that it was not already labeled with a standard I decided to standardize to AmE and label it appropriately. This does not violate MOS:RETAIN. –Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 15:42, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bazza 7: upon closer examination, it appears this article is awash with both BrE and AmE spellings (center and centre appear, favor and favour, only labour appears, only neighbor appears, etc.) I don't think a reversion of my edits based on the article's established standard is logical. If this is an issue you feel strongly about I think it should instead be taken to the talk page. –Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 15:55, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@Skoulikomirmigotripa: MOS:RETAIN states "When no English variety has been established and discussion does not resolve the issue, use the variety found in the first post-stub revision that introduced an identifiable variety.". For Macedonia (Greece), the first such occurrence is "centre", introduced in this edit, so this article should retain British English spelling. I have reinstated your other edits (I recommend you make only small changes in each edit, to prevent "undo" removing too much), and corrected the spelling as appropriate. Bazza (talk) 19:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, @Bazza 7: for reinstating my edits and engaging in conversation. Upon checking the edit you've listed as the first identifiable use of AmE or BrE, I have found that you appear to be mistaken. The word 'neighbour', which appears earlier in the article on the edit you've listed, existed in edits earlier than the one you listed. Noticing this, I decided to delve deeper into the article's history to see if you may have missed even earlier identifiable AmE or BrE usage. Going back even farther I found what I believe to be our answer in this early edit where the AmE spelling 'characterization' introduces the earliest identifiable example, that I have found, of either AmE or BrE.

Given this new information, I kindly request that you reverse the edit notice you placed on the Macedonia (Greece) and request AmE spelling. Cheers, –Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 21:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Mariam Soulakiotis and Averoff Prison

Hello! Do you speak Greek? I was thinking of writing an article about Averoff Prison, but given that all the sources are in Greek, a language I don't speak and only know the letters of, I'm hesitant. Could you perhaps review my draft? If you say yes, I'll ping you again once it's ready. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 09:05, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Sure, I speak Greek and would be happy to help. Just let me know! Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 11:05, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello Skoulikomirmigotripa,

Thanks for your help. Unfortunately, some (other) people do not appear to understand etiquette or consensus, only that they are right and everybody else is wrong. Gderrin (talk) 21:50, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

To correct or not to correct

Dear Skoulikomirmigotripa, thanks for your effort on various lemmata. But it depends whether or not you have access to certain sources. I do not have access to Gledhill, so I can not correct the evident misquotes. I would like to know whether your current versions reflect the etymological descriptions of Gledhill? For example, you have replaced "florus" by "floris". Is this genitive case explicitely mentioned by Gedhill (and labelled as such) and translated with the nominative "flower" and not with the genitive "of a flower"? Similarly, τριχός is a genitive case, but not labelled as genitive case (while floris is labelled in the same etymological description as genitive case) and is translated as if it was a nominative case, i.e. "hair" instead of "of hair". Here you have added that tri is also a Greek prefix (and does Gledhill omits the necessary hyphen?), but is this also mentioned by Gledhill for tricuspidata? It seems highly unlikely that the Greek prefix τρι- has something to do, with the Latin adjectival compound tricuspidata. Could it be that you took the liberty to alter the descriptions of Gledhill? Wimpus (talk) 15:19, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Wimpus, thank you for engaging in conversation instead of just reverting edits. Can you please post these concerns to each article's Talk page. It's important to discuss these kinds of issues in a place where other editors will know to look so that better consensuses can be formed. Thanks Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 18:41, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

This is not a question regarding a single edit, but more a general question, whether you have added information that can not be found in the cited sources. Wimpus (talk) 18:48, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

To answer that general question: I do have access to the sources and am not misrepresenting them in anyway (though I did just realize I made a silly mistake which I'm about to correct). If you'd like to discuss the specific examples you mention (which I would be very happy to do) we need to do that on the Talk pages of the article's in question. –Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 19:12, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Entomologies

Incidentally, when I was made aware of this problem, I began drafting a proposal on how such issues might be resolved. Unfortunately, other demands on my time gained priority and I haven't put much owrk into it. Also, the conflict seemed to dissipate somewhat. Maybe it's time to return to the proposal...

The idea of it is that a set of guidelines will be proposed and can be !voted on in an RfC. TelosCricket (talk) 17:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

I gave the wrong link. The link above goes to the proposal's talk page. Here is the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TelosCricket/Draft_Proposal TelosCricket (talk) 17:06, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@TelosCricket: This proposal seems like an absolutely wonderful idea, and by far the best long term solution to the disputes which keep popping up. I would love to comment and contribute (at least in theory), though I will say I'm already spending more time working on Wiki than I can properly afford to be, so my help may be limited at least for the next month or so. –Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 18:06, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@TelosCricket: It seems the Wimpus conduct/content may not really be quite dissipated (See the Balanophora revision history and talk page). Any recommendations on how to handle things? –Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 14:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

No, not really. :/ TelosCricket (talk) 19:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Frappé coffee

Thanks for the collaboration here. I don't think the word "composed" is actually needed. Take a look at these search results. But not a big deal either way. --Macrakis (talk) 21:06, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

@Macrakis:Hhhmm, it sounds weird to me but you seem to be right. I guess I'm okay with removing it. And thank you! You are an absolute pleasure to edit with.

By the by, what are your thoughts on the quality/importance rating of this article? I'm not very experienced with rating articles but based on the scales (Greece, Food and Drink) it seems to me that the Importance rating should probably be raised to Mid for Greece (probably set at Low for Food and Drink) and Quality should perhaps be raised to a C-class, maybe even a B-Class for both? –Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 21:26, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't paid much attention to the Assessment system, to tell you the truth, so I can't help you there. --Macrakis (talk) 22:27, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

No Problem –Skoulikomirmigotripa (talk) 23:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Requesting small help

I was looking for some small help. I created an article en:Kithaab(French fr:Kithaab/Spanish es:Kithaab/de:Kithaab) -a play about women rights issues- which has been copy edited and is ready for translation in various languages.

Greek and Turkish are internationally spoken languages having major global influence. Out of first 10 languages the article is already got translated in 8 of them, but Greek language Wikipedia (and Turkish too) are remaining to get article Kithaab translated in. Translating in Greek and Turkish will also help translating in other global languages.

Looking for your possible help in translating the article en:Kithaab to your Greek language Wikipedia. If you are unable to spare time yourself then may be you like to refer the same to some other translator.

Thanks and Warm Regards

Bookku (talk) 08:35, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

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