User talk:Simon Burchell/Archive 15

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Rationalobserver in topic Chetro Ketl FAC

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Thanks for an incredibly thorough, quick and helpful review! It was a pleasure working with you; this is what Wikipedia should be like. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:21, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Simon Burchell (talk) 17:29, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Are you available for a spot check at the moment?

I current have on an ongoing FAC and most of the sources in Spanish. I was wondering if you have the time to spot check the references. Thanks! Erick (talk) 18:49, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: I should think so, what's the name of the article? Simon Burchell (talk) 20:17, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
The article is Romance (Luis Miguel album). I mentioned this in the FAC, but the sources for El Informador can be found here. I currently do not know how to link articles from that site as it simply opens a PDF without leaving a URL. Thanks again for taking your time to spot check. Cheers! Erick (talk) 20:29, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
@Magiciandude: I just looked at the website. In most browsers, if you hover over the link to the PDF (the day number in this case) and right-click, it will give you the "copy link location" option, you can then paste the url. Simon Burchell (talk) 20:35, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Hmm, I tried doing that it doesn't seem work with Opera or Google Chrome. On Opera, it just copies the url to the main page and there's option to copy a url when I right-click on on Chrome. Erick (talk) 20:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
You're right - they've disabled the functionality... Simon Burchell (talk) 20:52, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

I want to thank you for taking the time for doing the spot check for Romance, I greatly appreciate it! Erick (talk) 14:17, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Conquista de Guatemala

Hi Simon. this is to let you know the GA Review for "Conquista de Guatemala" has started on the Spanish Wikipedia. However, since I don't have easy access to many of the works cited in the article, I hope I may count on your help in filling in most of the additional references that have been requested. As noted by the reviewer, many of these references are probably identical to those of nearby sentences. I took the liberty of listing the first batch of 9 sentences here (scroll box), and included probable references as suggestions at the end of each sentence. More batches may follow as the revision advances through the next sections.

Impacto de las enfermedades del Viejo Mundo
  • Las epidemias que fueron accidentalmente introducidas por los españoles incluyeron la viruela, el sarampión y la gripe.***likely ref:{{harvnp|Jones|2000|p= 363}}
  • Basado en el conocimiento moderno del impacto de estas enfermedades sobre las poblaciones que no habían sido expuestas previamente a ellas, se estima que el 33-50 % de la población del altiplano pereció como consecuencia de la epidemia.***?
  • Cuando los españoles capturaron Nojpetén en 1697, se estima que sesenta mil mayas vivían alrededor del lago Petén Itzá, incluyendo un gran número de refugiados procedentes de otras áreas.***likely ref:{{harvnp|Jones|2000|p=364}}
Conquista del altiplano
  • No obstante, pronto los aliados de Cortés en Soconusco le informaron de que los k'iche' y kakchiqueles no cumplían con su palabra, sino que hostigaban a los aliados de los españoles en la región.***likely ref:{{harvnp|Sharer|Traxler|2006|p=763}}
Subyugación de los k'iche's
  • Avanzando a lo largo de la llanura costera del Pacífico, Pedro de Alvarado no encontró oposición hasta llegar al río Samalá en el oeste de Guatemala. Esta región formaba parte del reino k'iche' y tropas k'iche's trataron de impedir el cruce del río.***likely ref:{{harvnp|Sharer|Traxler|2006|p=764}}
  • El 8 de febrero de 1524, después de forzar su paso del río, el ejército de Alvarado libró una batalla en Xetulul, llamado Zapotitlán por sus aliados mexicanos y actualmente conocido como San Francisco Zapotitlán.***likely ref:{{harvnp|Recinos|1986|p=65}}{{harvnp|Gall|1967|p=40–41}}
  • Luego, Alvarado volvió a dirigirse río arriba internándose en la Sierra Madre y cruzando el paso hacia el valle fértil de Quetzaltenango, en el centro del reino k'iche'. El 12 de febrero 1524, los aliados mexicanos de Alvarado fueron emboscados en el paso y rechazados por los guerreros k'iche's, pero la carga de la caballería española que siguió causó honda impresión a los k'iche's, que nunca antes habían visto caballos.***likely ref:{{harvnp|Sharer|Traxler|2006|p=763}}{{harvnp|Gall|1967|p=41}}
  • Esta batalla agotó las fuerzas militares de los k'iche's, que finalmente pidieron la paz y ofrecieron el pago de tributo, invitando a Pedro de Alvarado a su capital Q'umarkaj.***likely ref:{{harvnp|Sharer|Traxler|2006|p=765}}
  • Tras la destrucción de Q'umarkaj y la ejecución de sus gobernantes, Pedro de Alvarado envió mensajes a Iximché, la capital de los kakchiqueles, proponiendo una alianza para neutralizar la resistencia del resto de los bastiones de los k'iche'.***likely ref:{{harvnp|Sharer|Traxler|2006|p=765}}

Not sure if this is the best way to proceed, or if you prefer to add the references yourself. Please let me know. Best regards. --Arjuno (talk 16:06, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Arjuno3: - it's great to see this article advancing on the Spanish wiki, and I'll help all I can. I haven't read the review yet, but I am assuming that the requirement over there is that a cite is needed after each sentence. Over here, where consecutive sentences use the same cite, the cite is added to the last sentence using an identical cite.
In other words, if I put in an example:
This is the first sentence.<cite 1> This is the second sentence. The third sentence.<cite 2> And a fourth. With a fifth. And why not a sixth.<cite 3>
This becomes:
This is the first sentence.<cite 1> This is the second sentence.<cite 2> The third sentence.<cite 2> And a fourth.<cite 3> With a fifth.<cite 3> And why not a sixth.<cite 3>
I hope this helps for now. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 16:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Understood. Many thanks! --Arjuno (talk
Hi Simon, Just to let you know "Conquista de Guatemala" has passed the GA Review on the Spanish Wikipedia. Thanks again for your support during the review process, and all your work in creating the original article! --Arjuno (talk 12:21, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
That's great news! Thank you for all your hard work translating it. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 12:27, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ancient Maya graffiti

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Conquista del Petén

Another translation of one of your articles has passed GAR in WP-es! :-) --Arjuno (talk 02:28, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Excellent - well done! It's great to see this stuff, I've long meant to translate some of these articles myself but only ever finished Takalik Abaj, and started Estela maya but never finished it, since my priority is always content creation. So what next? Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 11:34, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Content creation is, without any doubt, essential and a lot more work, especially considering the high quality of the articles you are creating. So, I quite understand your priorities.
A first next step, was proposed by the reviewer of "Conquista del Petén" who suggested nominating it as a featured article candidate, which I did. We'll see how it goes, though I expect I may again need your help during the revision process. Best regards, --Arjuno (talk 14:33, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Good luck with the FA - I'll keep an eye on its progress, but let me know if you need any help. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 11:48, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Just to let you know about this interesting discussion. --Arjuno (talk 11:07, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I've just dropped by the discussion. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 11:33, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
After reviewing Spanish WP guidelines related to place names and person names, I believe they say that as a general rule the Spanish spelling should be used. So I made a list of Mayan names and Spanish equivalents. I wonder if you could take a look here and check for possible mistakes. Thanks! --Arjuno (talk 01:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Huastec civilization

Thank you Victuallers (talk) 16:03, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Impressive work once again! Congratulations for promoting Huastec civilization to the main page. ComputerJA () 22:09, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Simon Burchell (talk) 22:24, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Maya civilization

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Maya civilization you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria.   This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zanhe -- Zanhe (talk) 20:40, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Chetro Ketl

Hello! I'd like to invite you to comment at Wikipedia:Peer review/Chetro Ketl/archive1. I'll understand if you are too busy or not interested. Thanks! RO(talk) 16:34, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Simon. I was wondering if you intended to continue your review? RO(talk) 15:39, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry - yes, I am. I was taking a break to let the restructuring settle down a bit... I'll be back soon. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 16:04, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
I think the structure is now pretty stable, but there's no need to rush; I just wanted to check in with you. Thanks! RO(talk) 16:08, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

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Irataba FAC3

Irataba is back at FAC: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Irataba/archive3. We look forward to your comments there. RO(talk) 16:22, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Good to hear, I'm likely to be busy for the next few days, but will see if I can drop by. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 07:23, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Maya civilization

The article Maya civilization you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Maya civilization for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zanhe -- Zanhe (talk) 19:41, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations, excellent work as always!·maunus · snunɐɯ· 19:43, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
I second that! Great work on an immensely important topic! RO(talk) 19:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Simon Burchell (talk) 07:24, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for your incredible work on Maya civilization! It's one of the best articles I've seen on Wikipedia, and I think should easily pass FA. Hope to see it featured on the main page soon! Zanhe (talk) 20:43, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Zanhe, for the review and the star, best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 07:25, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Million award

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For your contributions to bring Maya civilization (estimated annual readership: 1,005,716) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! Bobnorwal (talk) 02:24, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Clearly a lot of people rely on this article for information about the Maya civilization, so you deserve a lot of credit for bringing it up to such a high standard. Great job! Bobnorwal (talk) 02:24, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

After taking a closer look at the article, I have to say it is one of the most impressive Wikipedia articles I have read — in its scope, depth of information and clear writing. Wikipedia is very lucky to have you. Bobnorwal (talk) 02:42, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Simon Burchell (talk) 07:51, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Dear Simon, I've made some comments at the FAC, I hope you will take them in the collaborative and constructive spirit they are intended. I mentioned some of these things earlier at a peer review, but I think for this level they need a bit more consideration. If you are unsure about how to convert my somewhat vague concerns to something concrete, I will be happy to make suggestions and participate in the editing if you think that will be a help. All the best, and congratulations on the awards. You would be a worthy winner of the core contest as well in my opinion!·maunus · snunɐɯ· 18:26, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Maunus - don't worry, I'm glad to have fresh eyes on the article, and I don't see anything there that made my heart sink! I will see what I can do to address your concerns. All the best, Simon Burchell (talk) 21:04, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Guatemala

Thanks for your edits in my country and expand pages, are you British?, you talk guatemalan spanish?--Baguette 35 (talk) 01:38, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

No problem, it is a fascinating country. Yes, I'm British, and yes, I speak Guatemalan Spanish. Simon Burchell (talk) 08:16, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your appreciation of my country. I can teach you more about the Spanish chapin and incidentally also you teach me English because I need to improve, Thanks--Baguette 35 (talk) 21:19, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Maya civilization

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Simon Burchell (talk) 08:11, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wajxaklajun

The DYK project (nominate) 19:32, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Simon Burchell (talk) 20:02, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Glyphs

We have some good glyph illustrations coming up from the illustration lab courtesy of @Goran tek-en:, I would like to see them integrated in the article before supporting, I am also thinking of doing some light writing on some sections if that is Ok.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 17:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Sure thing - be my guest! All the best, Simon Burchell (talk) 17:51, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Spanish conquest of Guatemala

Gracias (se que me entiendes en castellano, y para mi es mucho menos trabajoso utilizarlo, discúlpame por no utilizer la lengua de Shakespeare). Obviamente, aunque el cambio que yo había hecho en el texto era algo de lógica, me faltaba añadir una referencia que lo sustentase (además, una en inglés). Muchas gracias por hacerlo tu. Un saludo--85.86.119.221 (talk) 06:22, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

De nada - obviamente, lo que me preocupaba es que la referencia no apoyaba el uso del término "criollo", especialmente porque el artículo es un artículo destacado. Saludos, Simon Burchell (talk) 08:22, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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Core Contest

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Dear Simon Burchell, congratulations for your second-prize-winning entry Maya civilization in the March 2015 running of the Core Contest. A member of wikimedia UK will be in touch soon with details about the Amazon voucher. cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:18, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Cas! Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 08:13, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Congratulations on your prize. I'm sorting out the prizes from Wikimedia UK. As it's in the form of an Amazon voucher, could you please email me at richard.nevell wikimedia.org.uk so that I can send it to your email address. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 12:52, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Richard - will do. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 13:50, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Congrats! Well deserved. I've looked a little at the article today and commented at the FAC, I think I can help shortening it if you want to do that. Personally, I think the length guideline needs revision.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 21:19, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Maunus, likewise... I don't actually think the arrticle should be shortened, given its broad scope. I'll have a look, but I would rather have a complete article at GA than an incomplete one at FA. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 08:24, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations

There is an RfC that you may be interested in at Template talk:Infobox country#RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations. Please join us and help us to determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 14:13, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

VAD: Conquista del Petén

Hi Simon, As you have noticed the VAD-process for Conquista del Petén has started. Amongst the questions that were raised, there is one question about Avendaño I cannot answer since I dont have access to the source. I hope you could help me there. Best regards. --Arjuno (talk 14:04, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

No problem - I'll drop by and take a look. All the best, Simon Burchell (talk) 14:12, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks for your help so far. Another question came up regarding a possible translation of the last map (Lake Peten Itza at conquest 1697.gif). Since you are map's author, I wonder if you can spare the time to translate it? --Arjuno (talk 12:00, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I think I have my original layered working files somewhere; if so it shouldn't be too much of a problem producing a Spanish-language text layer - I'll have a go at it tomorrow. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 12:08, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
That would be great! Cheers. --Arjuno (talk 18:17, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Título de Totonicapán

Thanks for directing me to a better version of the Popul Vuh. I wonder if you know that the Título de Totonicapán is believed by the Mormons to be proof that the people of Mesoamerica were the lost tribes of Isreal: www.supportingevidences.net/title-of-the-lords-of-totonica/ Senor Cuete (talk) 13:09, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

No problem. I think I had heard something about that but didn't look at it in any detail. All the best, Simon Burchell (talk) 14:07, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
You should look at that site. It's almost funny, but at the same time mildly horrifying. It will give you a sense of what you're up against, should you encounter the fanatics in the LDS church. Senor Cuete (talk) 14:55, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Sihuanaba

i am dropping the subject, since it is a harmless trifle. but colleague, you have problems with understanding of original research policy , namely, WP:SYNTH. -M.Altenmann >t 14:32, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Utter nonsense. There is no original research, if the Siguanaba is said to appear as a naked woman combing her hair, a painting depicting such a woman is entirely appropriate. WP:SYNTH does not, and cannot, apply to image content - it refers to article content. Simon Burchell (talk) 15:00, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Tulane University pdf

Hi, I can send you a pdf of:

  • Oliver La Farge II and Douglas Byres "The Year Bearer's People", 1931, pp. 218-222. Published by the Department of Middle American Research, Tulane University of Louisiana, New Orleans.

to fulfill your request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request#Tulane University publication. Please use Special:EmailUser to email me so that I can reply with the pdf as an attachment. Regards, Worldbruce (talk) 06:00, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

WP:MESO

Regarding this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maya_astronomy&diff=next&oldid=639818188 the link to WP:MESO is red. Is there a page which has this resolution to use Maya, not mayan? Senor Cuete (talk) 15:27, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it was mistyped (should have been WP:MESO - the relevant guideline is at M03. Maya vs. Mayan. Simon Burchell (talk) 15:48, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Once again the question of how to convert Maya calendar dates to the western calendar has come up. Because some authors use the Proleptic Gregorian calendar, instead of the mainstream Julian/Gregorian calendar and some authors use the Thompson correlation instead of the GMT, there are four ways to do these conversions. Also the authors of books, web sites and Wikipedia articles are all over the map and some are out in the ozone like Miller and Taube. Would it be worth discussing a guideline for doing this consistently in Wikipedia articles in WP:MESO? In my opinion it would be GMT, Julian and historical dating of negative years rather than astronomical because most people don't know the difference between BC and -. Senor Cuete (talk) 18:34, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Chetro Ketl FAC

Hello. Thanks for your comments at the Chetro Ketl peer review. The article is now a featured article candidate, and I'd like to invite you to comment there. Thanks! RO(talk) 17:53, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll see if I can find time to drop by - but I can't promise anything. Best regards, and good luck with your FAC. Simon Burchell (talk) 10:18, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
I know you're busy, but I hope you can find time to comment at the Chetro Ketl FAC. RO(talk) 15:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Still hoping you're going to take a look. RO(talk) 15:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

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1954 Guatemalan coup d'état

Greetings, Simon. I just nominated 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état at GAN. Since you were kind enough to review Guatemalan Revolution, and are probably the resident expert on the country, I was wondering if you had the time/inclination to review this. If not, I totally understand, and no hard feelings. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 06:09, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Vanamonde93, I am a bit busy at the moment in real life, but will see if I can pick it up over the next few days. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 08:25, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks, Simon. Vanamonde93 (talk) 13:27, 15 July 2015 (UTC)