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August 2021

Please do not add or change content, as you did at M4 carbine, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Loafiewa (talk) 14:23, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at M16 rifle, you may be blocked from editing. Loafiewa (talk) 14:25, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I think you didn't check for the links I cited for the changes. For M4 carbine, I clearly cited the data from Military-Today database . Same is true for the M16 rifle The weights of the M4 and M16 were in metric format so I converted them to imperial format. So, next time check stuffs in a proper way before making unnecessary edits. Thank you. Sds157 (talk) 14:39, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Neither of the sources contain the loaded weight, which you still changed. If you are going to change two pieces of information, you will need to provide a source that verifies both parts, not just one. Loafiewa (talk) 14:46, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

You do realize that the weight of a loaded 30 round magazine is quoted right in the Wikipedia article. By using simple mathematical operation called addition you can find the loaded weight of the gun. Sds157 (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Per WP:SYNTH, "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources.". Loafiewa (talk) 14:51, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Added details about the weights of standard STANAG mags in my latest edit. Check the latest edit for M4. Sds157 (talk) 14:55, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

That still constitutes SYNTH. As mentioned there: "If one reliable source says A, and another reliable source says B, do not join A and B together to imply a conclusion C that is not mentioned by either of the sources." Loafiewa (talk) 14:58, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Fine then I'll just remove the loaded weight figure and retain the weight figure for empty rifle. Sds157 (talk) 15:00, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Then you'll have two sources that contradict each other. Loafiewa (talk) 15:08, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

How will they contradict each other. Those two aforemtioned citations are for two different weapons. One is for M4 carbine and other is for M16 rifle. Check the latest edits, the issue with citations and the weight of those two firearms have been fixed. Sds157 (talk) 15:12, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

As for the McNab citation, it's better if you remove them because it's quite evident from their quotations about the weight that their data is erroneous. Sds157 (talk) 15:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

The McNab citation is itself cited to data from the US Army. Military Today isn't cited to anything. Loafiewa (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Reverted the changes, I rechecked the figures with my own copy of McNab book. Sds157 (talk) 15:24, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

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Avtomat Fedorova as a part of Assault rifle page

I find this comment of yours (used for an edit in 2021) to be somewhat of WP:RUDE.

Removed Fedorov Avtomat because it was a battle rifle. Whoever made that entry has no clue about the difference between an assault rifle and a battle rifle. The Avtomat fired full power ammo. A battle rifle that is capable of firing in fully automatic mode but unlike an assault rifle it uses full power ammo.

WP:BOLD of you to assume people "have no idea". The very idea between "rifle cartridge" and "intermediate cartridge" is murky nowadays, especially since XM7 dropped. Профессор кислых щей (talk) 13:30, 20 April 2024 (UTC)