User talk:Schwede66/Archive 2

Reply to your post on my talk page

Hi Schwede66,

I'm really glad you liked my contributions. I will add some more in the near future. Thank you for sending me those links.

Kindest regards,

Victor23. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zictor23 (talk • contribs) 23:06, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

MPs

I appreciate your great work in creating articles about New Zealand MPs in the 19th century. Using the infobox, can, if an office or electorate is not continued (or is new), it is convention to not put anything in the successor (or predecessor) parameters – just leave them blank. This is a link to the changes I made to Richard Molesworth Taylor. I also corrected a capitalisation typo and added succession boxes (you may also like to include these in future articles), among other changes. Thanks Adabow (talk) 10:02, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello Adabow, thanks for your edits, and even more so for the above points. I've wondered how best to do some of the things you raised. I do have a few thoughts, though.

When we use both infoboxes and succession boxes, we can display details with the succession box that are not covered in the infobox, and that's of course useful. In some cases, though, there is a chance that we double up on information, and I don't think it is useful to use succession boxes when they do not provide any additional information over and above what is already stated in the infobox. In fact, I've come across discussions that stated exactly that, but can't lay my hands on any guideline pages. So whilst a succession box is useful for RM Taylor, as the three-member electorate is tricky to display in an infobox (if not to say undesirable), I can't see what it adds to Henry Richard Webb. Do you have any thoughts on this, or can point me to guidelines?

Regarding leaving successor (or predecessor) parameters blank when electorates get established or abolished, that has the obvious problem that the reader doesn't know whether this is the case, or whether it's the succession that is unknown. Intuitively, I would think that this is a case where neither the predecessor or successor info gets shown in the infobox, but the use of a succession box is justified. Again, I'd appreciate if you could point me to some guidelines.

If those guidelines don't exist (yet), maybe we could write them! Schwede66 19:47, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

John Evans Brown

Can I suggest nominating John Evans Brown as a GA? In my opinion it is quite finished and meets the GA criteria. The nomination process is at WP:GAN. It would help your cause to upload an image or portrait, but after a quick internet search (and the fact that he is dead), this may not be possible. Adabow (talk) 06:06, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, that's the second time on 12 May that I was astonished (here's the first case). I had no idea that I have written an article that may qualify as GA. Yes, I'd be honoured for this to be put forward. I've put some thoughts on the talk page. Schwede66 19:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

It should be ready to go now - thanks, Adabow. Schwede66 04:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

It has been nominated and reviewed, and the review is here with some things to patch up. I'll do my best, but as the main author you had best take a look. Adabow (talk) 05:31, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I have made necessary prose changes to the lead and 'Early life' section. Adabow (talk) 05:45, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. It's interesting to see how this process works. The reviewer has spent a lot of time on this, and I shall thank him for his thoroughness on his talk page. I'll have a look at what needs doing. And I've learned one thing - you can add a redlink to your watchlist (I tried that and when the review started, it did show on the watchlist). Schwede66 08:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

[1] May be useful? Adabow (talk) 05:45, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

As may [2]. Adabow (talk) 06:00, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

A further note

When tagging WPNZ articles with the new politics= parameter, can use please also fill in the politics-importance= paramater, if possible, so that we have as few unassessed articles as possible. Thanks, Adabow (talk) 10:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure. I thought I get going with what I created today to 'try it out'. I see you've got all the importance categories populated already. I'd be keen to learn how to assess importance - can you point me in the right direction? What else is there that I could usefully do? Also, I noticed that the categories list the talk pages of the various articles - is that behaviour intended? Schwede66 10:25, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

• Importance can be worked out using the importance scale, and each article has a different importance to each WikiProject, and each task force. In terms of the politics task force, examples that I have rated are: Politics of New Zealand - top importance; New Zealand by-elections - high importance; individual Parliaments (eg 49th New Zealand Parliament) - mid importance; and individual by-elections (eg Nelson by-election, 1976) - low importance. Remember to take into account that significant topics will probably differ from these, such as the Te Tai Hauauru by-election, 2004 may be mid-importance, as it was the founding of the Maori Party. When assessing importance ask yourself 'out of all the NZ politics articles, how should this one be prioritised?' Editors often look at the more important articles to fix up first and give more attention to them.
• What else can you do? A LOT of tagging of articles will be needed, as all the articles that come under the scope of the task force will need to be included (ie in the {{WPNZ}} banner, include the new parameters. See Category:Politics of New Zealand. Most (probably all) of the articles in this category and its sub-categories will need the politics task force banner inclusion.
• Yes, the categories are meant to list the talk pages, as the talk pages are the ones that are categorised (see the categories at the bottom of the talk page). There is a tool that lists the article pages in a WikiProject.

Thank you for your help in getting this up and running! Adabow (talk) 09:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Andrews (chemist)

Just a note that you might want to refactor your proposed move section on the talk page. Typically, move requests are not closed by the proposer and that too without discussion. However, the move itself is quite reasonable and there is nothing to stop you from moving an article, so a refactor that says that you're moving the article for such and such a reason may not be a bad idea (in other words, you should probably remove the WP:RM stuff from that article). --RegentsPark (talk) 18:39, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I've replied on your talk page. Schwede66 19:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

sorry for the confusion...i actually didn't see the move request until after. for something so cut-and-dried, however, it's probably just better to wp:BEBOLD and make the move. cheers! --emerson7 19:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

(od) I responded on mine (mea culpa). --RegentsPark (talk) 20:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Christchurch Hospital

Hi Schwede66, while putting together an article for Christchurch Hospital, I stumbled across your proto-article via the aerial photo. I saw your one was last worked on in January, so I've gone ahead and put my article in mainspace, and used the photo. This is just a courtesy message to let you know it's there. XLerate (talk) 02:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. Yes, there's a lot on my 'To Do' list. If you discover other things that you are keen on working on, let me know and we can work together on the item in the user space. Schwede66 02:45, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

WPNZ Politics task force

Hi, Schwede. Thanks for the notice on my talk page. I'll review the articles I've assessed so far and add the politics parameter to any relevant ones (a few politicians mostly). Just one question on scope: the executive and legislative arms of the government are clearly indicated in the scope of the task force, but does it also include things such as the judiciary, Acts of Parliament and goverment-run organisations? So far I've come across articles like Chief Justice of New Zealand and Crown entity, and I wasn't sure if they fell within the scope. I'll probably have a few lot more nitpicking questions as I assess more articles – just a heads up :). – Liveste (talk • edits) 00:31, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Can I suggest that we move this discussion to the politics talk page, please? Schwede66 02:04, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

State Highways

Thanks for the compliments. Unfortunately I put on the data based on observations I notice when I travelled on these roads as well as from Google Maps. Is there a good website for me to refer to when doing State Highways? If you do know, that would be much appreciated :) Andyman14 (talk) 03:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info mate. I have tracked down information that gives more info on the highway. I have also added the link to the Great Alpine Highway promotional website Andyman14 (talk) 13:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Exception in MainForm.Save

Did you have KingbotK activated? -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I have activated it subsequent to the suggestion, but I haven't undertaken this particular edit since. Sorry, it appears that I was supposed to reply to the suggestion - I merely posted the feedback as the error message suggested that I do. Schwede66 18:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

We are almost sure the bug is connected to the the plugin. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:59, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: NZ politics stubs

Hi Schwede66 - I left a reply to your comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Stub_sorting, but I'll add it here too in case you don't see it there: if you want to change the name of a stub type, you should take it to WP:SFD - that's where any such changes are proposed and discussed. Grutness...wha? 23:49, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Canterbury MPs

New entry for Crosbie Ward has a DNZB entry, and looked more interesting than some other possible entries on the By-election page. And re Geraldine see discussion Hugo999 (talk) 02:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC) PS: are you going to publish the John Ollivier page? Except that being 19th century he should be in the Category:Members of the New Zealand House of Representatives rather than an "Independent MP". Hugo999 (talk) 02:08, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Hugo999. The Ward fella is hugely interesting. I haven't read his DNZB entry, but I've read a book on the history of Quail Island, and he's intrinsically involved with it. I'll write it up one day. As for Ollivier, I will not be publishing that page until about October 2010 for reasons outlined here. I hope you understand. If you want to produce a stub entry in the meantime, please don't hold back. Meanwhile, I've fixed the category entry - thanks for pointing it out. Schwede66 06:39, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Will do a stub for Ollivier. Have done stubs for Andrew Loughrey, Daniel Reese, Walter Hippolyte Pilliet, John Lewis Coster, Isaac Thomas Cookson, Searby Buxton from Chch, and Benjamin Tonks (Auckland mayor). All can be found in cat. Category:Members of the New Zealand House of Representatives Hugo999 (talk) 13:12, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Garry Mallett

I have added to Garry Mallett, as it was in a hopeless state. I think it nearly qualifies for DYK, and seeing as you are more active (and more successful too, for that matter) you might like to take a look at it. It may need a couple of hundred more characters of prose. Don't worry if you can't, or can't be bothered, as it isn't really a significant topic. Adabow (talk) 11:12, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you've beaten me to it. I've amended the article slightly, so it's now 5.2 times expanded. I don't think you'll get your hook approved, as it's a BLP and you are saying something negative about the subject and that's not well regarded. I've tried to come up with something interesting, but it's quite bland. We'll see. My suggestion would be be that you try and get rid of the fact tags. The other thing that could be added is the election of his successor.

On another front, thanks for getting the GA underway. And with regards to the mayors, I had somebody e-mail me fantastic bio details for one of them, and an IP editor added Australian bio details to another one that really helped me get started on that one. Fantastic. Schwede66 08:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

DYKs

You may already be doing this, but as you are quite involved in DYK, when you have a hook published, could you also add it to somewhere on Portal:New Zealand/Did you know? I don't think that these DYKs are rolling over as soon as they could be. Thanks, Adabow (talk) 09:43, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt. I've previously seen that DYKs are included in the NZ Portal, but I wasn't sure that it's active. Looking around, Portal:New Zealand/Did you know list had its last entry in 2007. Portal:New Zealand/Did you know was last added to in 2008. So it seems that it's not used - would you concur? Schwede66 10:30, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Governor-General edits

Thanks! I've double checked and the reference is correct. --Lholden (talk) 02:46, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Saint Subber DYK

Thanks for noting that the article had been moved from userspace to the mainspace and thus still qualifies for DYK. It is likely that I will have similar moves from userspace to mainspace followed by DYK nominations in the future, so I will make sure to note such moves for future nominations. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 22:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

My apologies, I had overlooked the page move in the edit history because I had skipped down to the first edit that was logged on 31 May 2010. I will be sure to check the edit histories more carefully in the future. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 01:17, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

No drama. It's easy for this to happen. Schwede66 02:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Alfred Creyke MP for Avon

Creyke served from 1.2.61, until 21.4.62 when he resigned according to Wilson page 191. So a by-election for Avon and William Thomson served from 11.6.62 to 27.1.1866 when he retired. NB resigned = byelection, retired = at general election? Hugo999 (talk) 05:29, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for digging out those dates. Given that the 1866 election was early in the year, it would appear likely that Thomson simply retired. It's a shame that The Star, the one local (Christchurch) paper that is online on Papers Past, is available from 1868 only. It'll be a tough one to dig out the local reporting that goes back further. Maybe they have it on their agenda to scan in further / older editions - I'll look into that. It's a hugely useful resource to have old newspapers online. Schwede66 05:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I see that they are just about to have the Lyttelton Times online (1851–62). Brilliant! Schwede66 05:59, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

PS: have added stub articles for all the other (not particularly notable) MPs in the Lyttelton (New Zealand electorate) article Hugo999 (talk) 09:06, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks heaps. Schwede66 09:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Reply to your post on my talk page

Hi Schwede66 - Thanks heaps for showing me how to set up those pages. I've been away from Wikipedia a while as work got crazy but I'm having a play now. You've been really helpful and kind and I very much appreciate it. islandbaygardener (talk) 22:18, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of 3rd New Zealand Parliament, William Cutfield King, Thomas King (New Zealand politician)

Hello! Your submission of 3rd New Zealand Parliament, William Cutfield King, Thomas King (New Zealand politician) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Cryptic C62 · Talk 01:43, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Hamilton East

Can you let me know when the links not in templates for the election district are changed so that I can move Hamilton East (disambiguation) → Hamilton East? I'm a bit tight on time and could use some help with that. Thanks. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

I nearly got through it all this morning (NZ time). Looking now, somebody else must have finished this off. So that job's done! Schwede66 04:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK Medal

		The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Congratulations for reaching the 25 DYK milestone! Well done for all your good work, especially on New Zealand politician biographies. XLerate (talk) 04:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I've added your username to Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs also. XLerate (talk) 04:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh how nice. I had no idea that 25 DYKs is a milestone. Thanks. Schwede66 04:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Mea culpa

Sorry, I thought the alt text was possibly someone being felicitous. I will be less cynical in future :-) --Lholden (talk) 22:43, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

No worries! I'm definitely not wedded to the text, but it's certainly better than just the name. Schwede66 02:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

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