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{{ChicagoWikiProject}} tagging for all categories and subcategories at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Categories except as noted.

Set up and ready to run

Hi, TonyTheTiger!

I've got the bot set up to run. It runs at about midnight every night and checks this userpage for what to do. I generally run about 50 cats a night, both to keep server load down and t minimize false-positive tagging. If you don't mind, watch this page to see if anyone reports such an animal or has any questions. And feel free to post here if you have any as well.

Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

WPChi Bot

Thanks for setting up the Bot. Will it exclude the irrelevant Arizona Cardinals subcategories? How often will it run? I presume it will do the auto stub assessment. Is it possible to add the image requested parameter since the template accomodates one if an image file is not apparent? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 22:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I should apologize about my lack of clarity earlier if it caused any confusion. I greatly appreciate your assistance in this matter. Howeve, there could be a major problem if all articles associated with the Arizona Cardinals franchise are tagged with {{ChicagoWikiProject}}. The franchise moved from Chicago to St. Louis to Phoenix after earlier homes. We only want articles in the Chicago subcats indicated on the Category page.

Also, I know I mentioned the autostubbing on WP:BOTREQ. I hope this later mention is not catching you by surprise.

Additionally, I presume the bot runs periodically checking for new articles, but don't know the details.

Finally, I do not know if it is feasible to automatically fill the photo req parameter. My earlier correspondence should have been more clear. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 00:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Tony!

Whew - you ask a lot of questions!!! :)

Let's see - the bot will detect if the article has a stub tag on it and will rate the article appropriately.

I haven't programmed the bot to check periodically. That's a really good idea, though. I'll work on that in the next few days and see if I can put something together.

I haven't programmed the image thing. Once the initial run is through tagging articles, I can run a separate function to check for images, but I'm a little hesitant to auto tag an image-request. Let me think on that and see if that's doable without running into problems.

I've just looked through the cats and have a couple reservations. The bot looks at all articles that are in the categories listed on the "Current project" page and tags them all. I usually request that any category that's listed be at least 80% totally within the project. For instance, we can be reasonably sure that Category:Chicago Football is almost entirely Chicago related. As another example, Category:Argonne National Laboratory images has no articles, so it's not going to tag anything. Category:Argonne National Laboratory has twelve articles, and I'm pretty sure only 2 or three (~ 20%) are within the project, so that one should be removed. I'm also going to remove Category:Unassessed Chicago articles and Category:Unknown-importance Chicago articles, since articles are put into those categories when they have the project banner.

So, with all that, would you review the categories again and make sure that the articles in them are at least *mostly* within the project? If we run what's currently there, we're going to get messages from people complaining - I'd rather avoid that :)

Thanks much! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 00:27, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all the great effort. I have to clean things up on my end. I will probably need some time to make sure the category list is fairly complete. Since you don't have this set to run periodically, I should be a little more careful with my list request to make sure I don't leave a lot of work for myself. I think in the future, I may need a version that auto adds template to the class parameter for those items in template space and category for those in category space if possible. Also, add dab to the class parameter for articles with {{disamb}} or {{hndis}} tags. Let me know about the feasability of a bot with these features plus the photo needs capability in the future.

I'll see what I can do about those. Categories and Templates belonging to a project don't change with much frequency, so it shouldn't be difficult to monitor them manually. Let me know when you get the cat list finished and I'll start the bot on it. And I'll let you know when I have the programming set to run through the project periodically.

By the way, you might be interested in something I do have set up to run periodically. It goes through all articles with a project's banner and reviews them for any of the cleanup tags. It produces two pages - one a full listing of cleanups, one a random selection. You can see examples at:

• full list and short list — we use these in Template:LGBT open tasks
• full list and short list — they don't seem to use it in a template.

Let me know if you want me to set that up to run for WPChi. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 00:59, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I have got the categories set at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chicago/Categories all cats, articles and subcats are good now. Please run bot. WRT, the cleanup tags, how does your program compare to the offering at WP:PNA? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 18:28, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Please run the cleanup tag program as well. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 20:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

It seems something has run. However, the categories at User:SatyrBot/Current_project don't match the categories at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chicago/Categories. Was I suppose to make the changes? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 21:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I took that list you put together and alphabetized it and took out some duplicates, that's all. All the cats that were run are the ones from your list - did you want them run in that order? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 02:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

You have probably noticed, I am expanding my request for newly found categories. I am still at a loss as to which U.S. Congressmen and which Illinois State Assemblymen are within our project. I am not sure whether your bot will do everything I am requesting at Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Autotagging. Should I tell User:Betacommand that I already have my request fulfilled or should I have him do it? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 21:40, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup program

I'll try do add that in tomorrow. How often do you want it to run the lists? Once a week seems good for most projects. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 07:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Tagging athletes

Hi, I noticed this bot skimmed though a lot of hockey player bios last night. Are you sure you want to tag all of them into the Chicago project? Andy Hilbert played a total of 28 games for the Blackhawks. You have every right to tag them as such, but I think your project would be better served if you tighten the criteria. Ditto for any other sport (I just happen to watch a lot of hockey articles). ccwaters 12:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Another example: Nolan Baumgartner played 8 games in Chicago. ccwaters 13:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Ccwaters! I'll ask the WP:Chi folks to review. Thanks for bringing it up! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

All former pro athletes of Chicago teams will get the {{ChicagoWikiProject}} template. Feel free to add the importance=low parameter if you feel this is appropriate. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 18:02, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Completed second run

Hi, Tony! Completed the second run last night, which means 73 categories totaling 4,220 articles have. You can see a short summary of the articles that have been tagged on the User:SatyrBot/Project list, with links to the complete log pages.

I noticed this post on the Bot Request board. Did you want me to stop running SatyrBot on this project? I'm going to pause until I hear back from you, just in case. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 14:01, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Locomotives part of WikiProject Chicago?

Several railroad locomotives have Category:Metra applied to them (since Metra owned them). I'm not sure if they should or shouldn't, but I think it's a bit of a reach to have them under WikiProject Chicago. On the other hand, no harm is done by it, so don't take this as meaning I have an issue with it - just wondering if this was intended. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 06:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think locomotives should be included. For example, MPI MPXpress was tagged on April 27. I removed the tag on the 28th because this locomotive model is not unique to Chicago (indeed, the lead photo is from California, and the second photo is in New Mexico). The bot then re-added it, and I reverted today for this same reason. I see it like the Ford F150, while there are a large number of them in Chicago, they don't represent Chicago. Slambo (Speak) 10:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

How do we get it to stop tagging locomotive articles??? The bot doesn't recognize if the tag is there in an HTML comment as it tagged MPI MPXpress yet again. Slambo (Speak) 11:16, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Chicago suberbs

Is this supposed to be adding the tag to articles that are about Chicago suberbs? It has added it to 3 WrestleMania articles, all of which took place in Rosemont, Illinois, not Chicago. TJ Spyke 05:36, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

University of Chicago alumni

Please do not tag members of this cat. Most of them have no connection with Chicago except having been there for a short time. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

And why tag Juan Cole? He isn't even UC. Please stop. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi! Juan is an alumnus of Northwestern University.

The category list was provided by WikiProject Chicago, and I asked them to verify articles in each category should be relevant to their project. Please visit their talk page if you think the category/ies should not be included. Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 19:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)