User talk:Satori Son/Archive 2

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Kayah Li

For the gods' sake, articles do not grow on trees. Have some patience. You put your citation notice in 20 seconds after I had put in the first paragraph. Evertype 18:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

• Sorry, but all articles are required to have sources. Please read WP:V. Once you add the cites, you can take the template off - no big deal. Thanks. --Satori Son 18:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with suggesting that you have some patience. I'm not a newbie, but many editors are, and leaping on an article with a citation template seconds after a first edit may put off people. Evertype 20:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

• You're right, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what you did, but I didn't do anything wrong either. Once you post an article in the mainspace, it is out there for everyone to see and edit. There is not a "grace period" for new articles to comply with Wikipedia's requirements for publication. If you don't want anyone editing your work yet, which I can certainly understand, you have two good options:

1. Put an {{inuse}} tag on the article. I definitely would not have touched it if I knew you were still actively working on it.
2. Create the article on a user subpage, such as User:Evertype/Kayah Li. That way, you can work on it for as long as you like, unbothered by meddlesome New Page Patrollers like myself. Then, once it's ready, move it to the mainspace.

Most importantly, though, I'm genuinely sorry that I irritated you with my edit. That truly was not my intention. It's just that I have found well over half of all new articles are posted without any sources whatsoever, and I'm just trying to do my humble part in improving the project. Again, sincerely sorry for the hassle, and please keep up the great work. --Satori Son 20:36, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Long-Overdue RfA Thanks from Alphachimp

Thanks for your support in my not-so-recent RfA, which was successful with a an overwhelmingly flattering and deeply humbling total of 138/2/2 (putting me #10 on the RfA WP:100). I guess infinite monkey theorem has been officially proven. Chimps really can get somewhere on Wikipedia. With new buttons come great responsibility, and I'll try my best to live up to your expectations. If you need assistance with something, don't hesitate to swing by my talk page or email me (trust me, I do respond :)). The same goes for any complaints or comments in regard to my administrative actions. Remember, I'm here for you. (Thanks go to Blnguyen for the incredible photo to the right.) alphaChimp laudare 01:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

SD Rockefeller

The article included (1) a picture of what looked like a teenage boy; and (2) the press release from the bank, copyright notices included. It is at the very least a copyvio, if not nonsense and no-context. If there is a legitimate bank (or banker) by this name and someone writes a non-copyvio article, I'll be glad to leave it alone. Thanks, NawlinWiki 19:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Done

(I think.) Let me know if I screwed it up. alphaChimp^(talk) 19:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

• Perfect - thanks a million! --Satori Son 19:43, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

David L. Cook

Can you take a look at the David L. Cook talk page and give an opinion on the section titled "International Country Music charts"? User:Junebug52 (formerly User:Iamascorp) is placing yet another in a long string of hard-to-verify grand claims on the article, this time that Mr.Cook has the #1 record on the "International Country Music charts". However, a Google search seems to show that there is no such thing as an official "International country music charts" and his source link does not appear to be an official music industry chart compiler. wikipediatrix 04:07, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

• Wow, what a mess over there! I think you've done a pretty good job maintaining a civil tone and sticking to good policy interpretations, despite being personally attacked by the now blocked IAMAS Corporation. I've taken a quick look and made one minor edit to a cite, and I'll get back to it as I get more time. --Satori Son 05:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Satori Son, as I have explained to Wikipediatrix, these are legitimate industry charts. They are not derived by the Gospel Music Connection's owners as she claims, they are just the collectors of the data and displayers of what Christian Country Radio has reported to them. Christian music does not have a charts such as "Billboard" and each individual genre derives their own charts. After being in the music industry for over 27 years myself I can assure you as a historian and expert in the field that these charts are reviewed by radio and adhered to as the Bible of their genre. Unless Wikipediatrix can prove that these charts are not viable and used by the industry, I do not see where her argument is going to hold water on this issue. On the David L Cook talk page she based her argument in part because "Their web page looked amaturish?" That is not a factual argument but instead a personal opinion and should not be used for the bases of an edit or discounting of credibility. I can give a long list of industry web pages that look like they were done by children, however their information is like the manna from Heaven. For her to come on here and again use phrases like "Yet another in a long line of grand claims" shows me that she is not adhering to a good level of civility. This is why I have always had a problem with her. It's not her edits, it's the way she goes about her remarks. I am trying very very hard here to be a team player and to be nice to her. We are here for nothing more than to make sure Wikipedia has great material. Thank you Junebug52 8:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

• Hello Junebug52. I have not yet had sufficient opportunity to fully research Gospel Music Connection or their veracity, so I have thus far refrained from making any edits or comments concerning that issue. I will say that there does appear to be other citation issues (one of which I have fixed), and I will take a calm, unbiased look at the article when I get some time. As far as wikipediatrix's personal behavior, I did not yet find any instances where she appeared to breach the bounds of acceptable civility, but your concerns are noted and understood. Most importantly, I am not here to "take sides", and please be rest assured that all of my future edits to the article, if any, will be carried out in a careful and thoughtful manner. Respectfully yours, Satori Son 13:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Club Penguin

Changed to semi-protection as requested. Good luck, Gwernol 18:08, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

M. Susan Savage Source Request

In response to your request for sources for the M. Susan Savage article, I have added a link to the Oklahoma Secretary of State website. --TommyBoy 20:26, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks very much. As part of my New Pages Patrolling, I usually go through and tag a bunch at once, then go back and see what I can source when I have some extra time. Your help is greatly appreciated. --Satori Son 00:04, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

David L Cook Article

Satori Son, thank you so much for your help on the David L Cook article. It is so refreshing to have someone go in and make edits without tearing the page apart! Not to mention you have been nice about it. At least I don't feel like I am fighting a brick wall. I want to thank you and if you ever see anything wrong with one of my pages please help me out with your edits. Thank you Junebug52 11:59, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

• Thank you again, this time for your kind words regarding my edits to the article. I am more than happy to help out, and your encouragement is greatly appreciated. I hope, also, that you do not have ill feelings toward wikipediatrix concerning your disagreements over there. While her editing style might be considered aggressive by some, I truly believe she has the best interests of the project at heart, and her zeal to ensure articles are properly sourced and verified is appreciated my many. Quite frequently, such "pig wrestling" matches over articles can be discouraging to new editors, but I'm glad to see that you are still around. All the best, Satori Son 17:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Sources Notice for The Freeze

Just a question about wiki policy being that this is the 1st time I haven't wrote an article, after I am completely done adding my sources, which I have started, can I just erase the citation notice at the top of the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.109.0.209 (talk • contribs) 10:43, 28 September 2006

Absolutely. The various clean-up tags not only serve to notify the editors working on that article, but also place the article in an appropriate category for other editors, such as "Category:Articles lacking sources." Once that specific issue is addressed, you or any other editor may remove the tag.

May I make one suggestion? You are currently editing under an ISP that is shared by other editors. Someone using that IP has vandalized articles for over a year and as recently as two weeks ago. You should probably think about creating your own account. It's easy and free to anyone; just click here. Then you won't be associated with the bad acts of others, and you can get credit for all of your hard work. Thanks for your contributions and good luck, Satori Son 15:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

World of Stupid

Hi! I created the World of Stupid page, and I noticed that you tagged it for Fact and Reference check. I've created a few articles, but am still fairly new at this. Would you mind suggesting what I can do to help my article out, what sort of citations to provide and such? I would highly appreciate it if so. Thanks, LLBBooks 10:13, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

• OK, the article looks good, and I see what you mean by credible sources. In the future i'll keep my eye out for things such as that. Thanks so much for your help! LLBBooks 03:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steel's law

Hello. Since you have commented upon Steel's law, I'd like to bring Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Steel's law to your attention. Cheers. The JPS^{talk to me} 19:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Another Issue with Wikipediatrix

Satori Son, I am again having an editing war with Wikipediatrix. Someone put a link to "Home" references onto the David L Cook page which told where he lived and that he was divorced and has one child. She reverted the edit without giving a reason so I put it back and she came back and reverted it again claiming it was not sourced. I asked her to not make any edits until she posted to the discussion and we could talk about it. She ignored my request again. She is simply impossible. You cannot deal with this woman. Look at her discussion page and read what others are saying about her and her editing style. Is there not someway that we can request that she not be able to edit these articles due to a conflict with other editors on the same pages? I have gone through several articles, one of which is Andy Griffith in which his article has the same exact information in the HOME reference. She did not go and remove it from that article. I am very tired of this editor. She has turned this article into her own private quest and I am tired of her! I don't care what anyone says, out of the thousands of articles on Wikipedia, why is she so concerned with the articles that I have written or this particular one for David L Cook? She has turned this personal and mascarades herself as a legitimate editor so she can interjest her own POV about how this article should be written. I am at the point of taking this to an administrator. Could you please look at her last edit and look at the Andy Griffith article and tell me what the difference is and why has it not been removed from his since she is on a quest to make Wikipedia such a great place for legitimate and unbiased editing. The information was identicle in context. Thank you for any help you can offer. Junebug52 22:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

• I am sorry that you are feeling frustrated with wikipediatrix again. I actually had noticed the dispute and have already left a message on the Talk:David L. Cook page with some suggestions as to how the information you would like to add could be properly cited. I'm sure we can find a published source for it. As far as the Andy Griffith article goes, since it has never reached Featured Article status, I'm not really sure it can be used as an example of a perfect article. As you probably realize by now, most of the articles on Wikipedia are works-in-progress. Some are further along than others, but few are perfect yet. Let's just concentrate on getting the David L. Cook article up to standards for now. What are your sources for the biographical information on Mr. Cook? --Satori Son 02:40, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello Satori Son, why can she not be nice like you? LOL First of all I think we need to remove the discussions from the David L Cook page because several people are already starting to read and make comments about the civility going on with Wikipediatrix. The information that was added came straight from David L cook himself. Which would be the best source we can find. He is actually the one who added the information last night. When she reverted it, I put it back and asked her to post to the discussion page. But Mr. Cook told me personally that he had been told by several people that they had read the article and that they could tell there were certainly some heated issues. Wikipedia is clear about not harming the reputation of Living persons.. This is why I archived everything so that it was a little bit hidden until I could find someone to help me with it. But I do feel we need to remove it or hide it somehow. The references were added by David himself. Wikipedia clearly states that things added are often POV but we need to also take into account who is giving the information. If he is the one who put it there, how can we argue with him? PLEASE HELP!! LOL Junebug52 22:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

• I know this probably sounds counterintuitive at first, but Wikipedia actually has fairly strict policies against adding information from a "primary source", such as the subject of the article. The various rationales for this are too lengthy and complex to get into here, but you should read the following when you get a chance: WP:Verifiability, WP:Reliable sources, and WP:No original research. I'm sure Mr. Cook is as frustrated as you are, but we really need to find at least one published source for this info. Since the source would not be used to assert notability, but simply to confirm biographical information, the standards for a source of this type are not as restrictive. Is there any place at all where this information has been previously published? I will check back tomorrow to see if you could locate anything. Good luck, Satori Son 03:07, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

These tantrums and insults cannot be tolerated from User:Junebug52 every time something doesn't go his way. He's already had WP:RS and WP:V explained to him by several editors and admins, so there's no reason for him at this late date to not know that personal discussion with Cook himself doesn't qualify as a proper source. And I'd like an explanation for his statement "The references were added by David himself." Junebug52 has already been booted from Wikipedia once under his old username, User:Iamascorp, for being a Role Account. Also note here that he, under his IP address, vandalized his old talk page by blanking it. Enough is enough, already! wikipediatrix 03:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

For the record, Mr. Cook did not sign on using my account. He went onto Wikipedia under his own account or IP and made the edit himself. He did not use my account so I do not want anyone to get the wrong idea that this is a role account. This is my account and I am the only one making edits under it. I also never blanked a page. AOL uses IP addresses that can be the same for many users. I believe Wikipedia is aware of that issue. So to say that I blanked it would be an absolute fabrication. This is just ridiculous. I am done with this. I don't know if I want anything else to do with Wikipedia and they can thank this woman. Junebug52 23:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Satori Son, I found the information and I replaced the edit and gave the cite. I also found several cd liner notes that show his full discography and filmography that Wikipediatrix deleted because she sais she could find no reference.[1] I would like to replace this on his page since I did find a cite for it. If you check the cite referenced above and do a search for his name you will find the information included on all of his projects. I would think the would suffice as a reliable cite. If it does could you please reference the information and replace it on his page? This way I can stay away from this woman and not get in a fight with her again. I am not going to let her chase me away with her aggression. I appreciate you kindness and calmness. I look forward to hearing from you. Junebug52 8:55, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

• I have looked at the CDBaby.com source and it does appear to confirm some basic biographical information, so I have formatted the reference for that in the article. Unfortunately, however, using that same reference to cite a discography or filmography would not be appropriate. For sources that assert notability or other significant facts, the standard is "credible, third-party sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." So for these issues (including the 1986 visit to the White House), we need to find a source that collects its own information in a manner truly independent of the subject of the article, such as a magazine or news organization. Please let me know if you have anything that might qualify as such. As far as wikipediatrix goes, while I understand you believe her debate style to be overly aggressive, I cannot find any instance where she has misapplied policy. Please try not to take it personally. She has been just as vigorous challenging the sources of many, many articles besides this one. Again, good luck. --Satori Son 14:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Junebug52 is 24.225.33.42

1. 24.225.33.42 adds "Home" info to David L. Cook (and also blanks out pages related to his old username, User:Iamascorp). See here.

2. User:Junebug52 edit-wars and reinserts the exact same "Home" info. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_L._Cook&action=history here].

3. User:Junebug52 suddenly claims: "The information that was added came straight from David L cook himself... He is actually the one who added the information last night." Junebug52 specifically denies being 24.225.33.42 and says that was Cook himself. See here.

4. User:Junebug52 makes a post but forgets to sign in, and it's shown that Junebug52 is indeed 24.225.33.42. See here.

Because of this game-playing, combined with massive incivility, vanity/POV-pushing edits, page-blanking vandalism, and contradictory claims of being Cook's manager, a pastor who runs Cook's fan club, and "just a friend" of Cook's (all of which I can also provide diffs for), I request you to consider blocking User:Junebug52. wikipediatrix 16:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Satori Son, this woman is on some form of witch hunt. Wikipedia is aware that AOL can and does use the same or similar IP addresses on many occassions. For her to say that someone is the same is just down right absurd. Where is her proof besides what she feels is an IP address? I am sorry but if this is what I will have to contend with on a regular basis, I do not want to be a part. NO where does it say I was Mr. Cook's manager, nor does it say that I have worked for Mr. Cook. I work for a company that deals with several artists yet my editing is on my own time and is not reflective of the comapnies opinion or facts. These are my personal contributions. I am withdrawing from Wikipedia. I hope that as an administrator you will deal with her and her aggressive behavior towards new editors and contributors or as Wikipedia calls they (Newbies). All I did was try to help and got bit in the ass. I really have gotten my feelings hurt here. What a nice group. Junebug52 12:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with wikipediatrix that there have been numerous accountability issues that have been very frustrating. Initially, several different persons were using the User:Iamascorp account, apparently including User:Junebug52 and members of the IAMAS legal and public relations departments such as Carl Taylor and Daylon Ware. The same multiple persons also have used User: 24.225.33.42 and possibly User:69.134.2.43. The problem is that I believe the 24.225.33.42 IP address represents the Earthlink Internet access account for the IAMAS Corporation office in Monroe, South Carolina. So, it is difficult to disprove Junebug52’s assertion that someone else made edits using that IP account, since we know others in his office have used it in the past. Thus, I am not sure that an action such as blocking by an admin would be justified here.

That being said, however, my patience with Junebug52 is at an end. In this post here, he states that I “agree with everything she says even while admitting that she is very aggressive.” I take umbrage with that inaccurate remark, especially considering the great lengths I have taken to be as neutral as possible in this conflict.

Since my humble attempts to moderate here as an informal intermediary of sorts have apparently been unproductive, I will no longer attempt to do so. I will continue to monitor the David L. Cook article for WP:V issues, but nothing further. Both parties here have already requested assistance from others. If the situation continues to escalate, I strongly recommend that you avail yourselves of WP:RFC. The final steps would be WP:AN/I or WP:RFAR.

Good luck to both of you, and I am genuinely sorry we were unable to resolve the conflicts here. --Satori Son 15:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• Satori Son, hello to you. I hope that you got my e mail about your last entry. I in no way was talking about you in my post to the admin. I am and will forever be appreciative of your help and contributions. Not to mention being a mediator in a situation such as this. I am hoping that it is over with that editor. I did go to an admin and I found out that my edits were well within Wiki standards. It is a very gray area though. In the future should I have problems with that editor, I am not going to deal with her, but instead take it to another editor or back to an admin. That will reduce the stress and conflict. I did archive the talk page because the talking is over. The situation has been calmed and rectified. I also archived it because I do not want others to go on and see the verbiage that the discussion pages contain. It is not flattering to that artist or his reputation. This is why I archived it. Again, I am so sorry that you thought I was talking about you. I would never do that to someone who was so nice to me during a very stressful time! Any help you can give me, I would appreciate anything. Please don't give up on me. Junebug52 21:33, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I have checked my email and do see your message now. Regarding the ongoing editing conflict and my attempts to mediate, I will draft a reply and respond to you via email.

As far as archiving of Talk:David L. Cook goes, it is generally poor Wiki-etiquette to archive very recent comments. Other editors may still have an opinion to contribute. Give it a week or two, and if the conversation seems concluded, feel free to archive at that time. --Satori Son 00:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Article on Amy Cohen Banker

All of my external links do include me and mention me. Amy Banker or Amy Cohen Banker. I do not understand why you say that is not so. I am listed on all of those sites and know those people. Most of my article is from primary sources but can be qualified. You can find any information at http://www.NewYorkArtsMagazine.com. You can see any information about my awards on Who's Who, at Cornell University Alumni Directory, Art Student's League Alumni information, Bincode.com (see Yola Gora Witta) or you can interview William Sharf, Knox Martin, Janos Gat, Ultraviolet or Kevin Kushel of Ovoworks/Smugmug.com. You can also talk to anyone at N.A.W.A. I do not understand what the issue with my article is about. I had it reviewed by Ed Castaneda, who wrote it originally, from EsenseDesigns, and by Joanne Palmer Sherman, a journist and publicist. Most of this is primary sources but I am living. You can see that I added a few publications to the article. Please help me.Thanks. Also, sometimes I am listed as Amy Banker as well as Amy Cohen Banker. If you on Google you will find both for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.240.239 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 8 October 2006

• As soon as I can, I will thoroughly review the external links that I removed to see if I made a mistake. I'll reply at Talk:Amy Cohen Banker (artist) so that other editors for that page are aware of everything. Thanks, Satori Son 00:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Skwert

Hi. I removed the prod tag from the article Skwert. I recently went through and hewed a lot of information out of the CRS7 article series, but this guy actually does meet notability guidelines. If you want to AfD it, be my guest, but his membership in Choking Victim (a rather well-known band) makes this in no way a clear-cut case. Please let me know if you have any comments on this, and if you AfD this page, I'd be interested in being party to the conversation. Thanks a lot! - Che Nuevara 05:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

• Sounds good; I'll take another look. --Satori Son 12:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

MATES

Satori, nice job on the Marine Academy of Technology and Enviromental Sciences page, I am a student there, and you pretty much summed it up. Great job.

Afrika paprika

The whole Afrika's case you can observe here: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Afrika paprika. He continues doing that. I suggest he already learned a week-block and that those articles receive semi-protection (because he constantly keeps returning as an annon). --PaxEquilibrium 20:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

• The 89.172.229.140 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) account has already been blocked by Pilotguy. For extending the block of User:Afrika paprika, I would contact the admin who blocked him originally, Aldux. As far as the individual articles go, please list those at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. The admins over there should take care of you. I'm sorry you are having to put up with this guy. Good luck, Satori Son 21:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

re: Westinghouse J40

Howdy, thanks for your work on this article. The reason I removed the speedy tag is that I don't think the article should get deleted. True it is a mess, but to me, that just means it needs to get cleaned up. It definitely fills a need, as other articles link to it and there are many other articles on turbojet engines. I can't find any evidence of a copyvio, and it appears to me that the author blanking the page amounted to him throwing a fit because people were sticking templates all over the article without really talking to him about the purpose.

Make sense? I think this was an example of WP:BITE and I don't think if someone writes an article on something that needs an article, they should be able to get it deleted just because they are the author. --Aguerriero (talk) 19:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

• You may indeed be right. I'll be curious to see what he has to say. Also, you may want to remove the {{prod}} tag I placed on it if he doesn't. Have a good one. --Satori Son 19:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Andrew Jackson Jihad

Please review this newest AfD, your opinion would be appreciated. PT ^(s-s-s-s) 00:47, 18 October 2006 (UTC

Graham Jessop

Hi yes you can delete him I only started him from the decent article I did on his father Keith Jessop. Graham is mentioned in the article so you can delete Graham's stub. He is notable though just no ibfo available yet. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:32, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

• I saw your Keith Jessop article, and it looks pretty good. Maybe we'll have some good sources for the son at some point. Thanks,  Satori Son 21:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Potomac two step article

hi, i was just wondering how to add a category to an article, specifically the Potomac Two Step article. If only administrators can add them then could you add Social "sciences and society" and "politics". Thanks. Orangefizzlebiz 15:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, anyone can add a category to an article. At the bottom of the text, simply place the tag [[Category:name of category]]. I have added tags for "Political neologisms" and "American political terms". Feel free to add others if they fit.

I did notice, however, that the article still does not have any citations to reliable, published sources that use the term. If you could find some of those and place them in the article, it would really help.

I did find one cultural reference where it was used by a character in the movie Clear and Present Danger, but not with the meaning used in the article here (it referred to dodging responsibility for one's actions by blaming another party). I don't know if it was used in the Clear and Present Danger original novel. Anyway, good luck. -- Satori Son 18:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

re: barnstar

Hey, thanks for the barnstar! I just noticed it - I guess I should keep a closer eye on my user page, eh? :) --Aguerriero (talk) 15:57, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

You're very welcome. I'll have to admit I was pretty impressed with your rescue of Westinghouse J40. What seemed to be just a speediable, unsourced opinion essay to me is now, because of your research, a good article with solid sources and multiple links to it. Thanks again for the extra effort. -- Satori Son 18:27, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Automobile magazine redirect

Articles which link to automobile magazine are intended to link to a page which describes magazines related to automobiles, not to the Automobile magazine. As such page is totally empty, that page redirected to magazine. How about linking it to Category:Automobile magazines instead? Please reply here :) -- NaBUru38 00:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

• Hmm, good point. The problem that I was trying to solve was a user typing "automobile magazine" in all lower case and thinking we did not have an article for Automobile Magazine. That's what happened to me when I was trying to source the Audi Q3 article (I started to create one, then remembered to check for it with correct caps). But you're right that at some point we may need an article for automobile magazines in general. How about one titled Automobile magazines? And I like your idea about linking it to [[Category:Automobile magazines]] until we get a good article there, but I'm not sure how to do that. Doesn't that just add the page to the category but not take you there? (I now see that my talk page has been added to it because of the tag in your comment above - LOL). How about if I take a stab at doing a very brief desription for it? What do you think? -- Satori Son 00:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
• Actually, I just remembered - you have to use a colon at the beginning of the category wikilink, so it could redirect to Category:Automobile magazines, which is input as [[:Category:Automobile magazines]]. Please let me know what you think. -- Satori Son 01:08, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the compliment. I appreciate it! JonHarder 17:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

• You're very welcome. I know you probably take a lot of flack for removing clearly inappropriate content from the project, so I just wanted to let you know you were appreciated. -- Satori Son 21:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Graham Jessop

Please read the latest version of Graham Jessop. Does that count as notability, in your opinion? DS 17:21, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, looks good. I have formatted the reference section. If you get a chance, the Keith Jessop article needs some love, too. It has no references whatsoever. -- Satori Son 20:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

club penguin

hi i changed the section about membership, you can actually have upto ten puffles of any color —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.219.137.8 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 23 October 2006

• Thanks for your contribution. Also, please feel free to discuss changes to the article at Talk:Club Penguin as well. That way, all interested editors can see your comments. Thanks again,  Satori Son 02:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

What are your credentials?

Please let me know why you have the assumed right to unilateraly remove my comments prior to discussion? Kevin Murray 04:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

• Thank you for your inquiry. Actually, I gave an extremely detailed reason for my edit at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Precedents#Advice as to notability of companies. I have also suggested the proper policy page for your helpful advice. If you could please respond there, it would be appreciated. Have a good one! -- Satori Son 05:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

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Primary source

What are you referring to on the nuclear space article? What isn't being sourced that you would like sourced.--aceslead 21:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello and thanks for your taking the time to send me a message. The template I placed on the Nuclear Space article is basically just a notice at the bottom asking for editors' help in finding third-party sources to properly verify the article. Right now, it's just a stub with one source - the subject's own website - and no other references. I'm just trying to make sure the article meets both verifiability and notability requirements before someone comes along and AfD's it. Do you know if the organization has been mentioned in any newspaper or journal articles we could cite? What about any awards or grants it may have received? Even press releases that have been picked up and published are good. Your help and contributions are greatly appreciated and, again, thanks for taking the time to follow up. -- Satori Son 21:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

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