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Basque Country

I have reverted your changes to the Basque Country.

• Firstly, these changes should be by move pages, not by copy and paste, as it loses the edit history and talk associated with these articles. It took quite some effort to reverse these issues last time.
• Secondly these have been discussed on the talk pages to some extent, and such a further major change requires further discussion and consensus, not unilateral action.
• Thirdly in English (and in French and I would contend in Spanish too), 'Basque Country' (or its translations) do not equate to just the autonomous community in common usage.

This is what I have tried to reflect at the disambiguation page. I appreciate that to have the seven provinces at Basque Country might be seen to reflect POV, so it has been left at the new article name you created; but the same would be true of your changes. Mtiedemann 11:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

País Vasco

Quizás si no habla ingles se debería dedicar al Wikipedia en castellano. Un cambio tan grande como este precisa discutirlo primero, y ademas seguir las maneras correctas de hacerlo. Será mas difícil sin poder escribir en ingles. Copiar la información sin usar 'move page' separa la discusión y la historia del texto. 'Basque Country' en ingles (y en francés) no tiene el mismo sentido que en castellano (y eso solo en España, diría yo). Algo parecido es Macedonia. He tratado de hacer algo balanceado y útil, no de poner algo político o personal.

Obviamente prefiero seguir esta charla en ingles, para mí y para que los demás entienden. Mtiedemann 11:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Gracias por tus comentos - conozco bastante bien las normas de ortografía pero quería mandar unas lineas, no escribir una tesis. Poner los acentos me cuesta en esta computadora y prefiero trabajar en otras cosas que responder a estos temas personales. Perdón si hizo mas difícil entenderlo. Te toda manera, gracias por los comentos. Otra cosa, ser anglosajón quizás ayuda a entender las cosas de otra manera. Pero yo no lo sé. Soy argentino-vasco-gallego-alemán-polaco, ni anglo ni sajón. Trato de usar mi experiencia y interés pero no imponer. Todo eso no importa, lo importante es que esto tiene que ser discutido por todos, en inglés, tiene que ser hecho bien, y no hecho por una persona sola, aunque tú sepas la verdad tanto mejor que nosotros. I hope we can continue this in English for the benefit of others. Mtiedemann 13:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

A&D flag

I've reverted your changes re the flag of Akrotiri and Dhekelia; while your proposed flags is quite nice, Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day. —Nightstallion (?) 20:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Galicia (Spain)/Galicia (Iberian peninsula)

Hi! It looks like you're trying to move one or more pages. However, please stop doing that this way - the new name of the page might be good, but Wikipedia has another procedure for moving pages. Look at Help:Renaming (moving) a page: you need to use the move tab, and not cut and paste. Cut and paste moves don't take the edit history with them and thus violate the GDFL copyright terms. Also, in some cases, when the move might be controversial, you might first want to discuss the move on the article's talk page. If a move is not possible because a page with the new name already exists, go to Wikipedia:Requested moves. Thanks! —Khoikhoi 17:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Khoikoi tiene razon. Debe solicitar el cambio de nombre en esa pagina. Lo que usted ha hecho no esta bien porque resulta en la perdida del historial de la pagina y ademas no ha sido consensuado. No creo que haya ningun tipo de problema para mudar la pagina a Galicia (Spain), pues sigue el estilo de otros nombres de lugar. Un cordial saludo, Asterion^talk 18:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Please, do not go on your changes in Valencian related articles. It's Wikipedia in English, not in "Spanglish". The English name used for the Comunidad Valenciana is "Land of Valencia" according to Regional Government. I recommend you to ask in talk pages about this kind of massive changes, as users who often contribute in those article could help you. Cheers. --Joanot Martorell ✉ 20:19, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Don't make your disappoint to me, but to Valencian Regional Government, wich has published this touristic book titled "Land of Valencia" in English around the world. In the other hand, changes of yours like Valencian and Catalan laguages are different shows clearly your less of aknowlegdement about Valencian issues. Finally, I'm not consider myself as separatist, but I think that the problem is you're clearly a separator. Cheers. --Joanot Martorell ✉ 19:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Hola Satesclop, mi Español es muy malo...yo no puedo mover los artículos porque yo no soy un administrador. Quiero tu vas a WP:RM en lugar. Gracias señor. :) —Khoikhoi 05:20, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Hola otra vez. El nombre Valencian Community es ambiguo en inglés, por ese motivo se usa Valencia (autonomous community). Le ruego tanto a usted como a Joanot que no se enzarcen en edit wars pues no conducen a nada. Si tiene algún problema con la terminología usada, le pido por favor formalice una petición en WP:RQM. También les agradecería a ambos que no se perdieran el respeto (i.e. criticar el dominio del idioma de cada uno o recurrir a terminos que pudieran ser entedidos como insultantes). Saludos, Asterion^talk 20:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Regardless of what his political beliefs are, you should always assume good faith. Remember that edit waring gets nothing done, and as soon as you start discussing the faster the conflict will be resolved. —Khoikhoi 04:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I gave you arguments, and I gave you references from Valencian Goverment using term "Land of Valencia" in English, as "Valencian Community" is so ambiguous in English. By exemple, a community can be also a municipality (Austrian Communities) or a ethnic/cultural subgroup in a larger city (Jewish Community in NY). There are also Valencian Communities in Buenos Aires and in Caracas. In the other hand, you are constantly changing again and again turning all Catalan names of some cities into Spanish form. If you read the discussion page, you will find that the cities in Catalan are declared officially as native Catalan-speaker (i.e. Alcoi), and the cities wich name are used in Spanish it's because these are officially declared as native Spanish-speaker (i.e. Orihuela). It's written in this form in a way to respect linguistic diversity. What's supposed I should to do in order to gain a constructive talking between us? If you want only to rule uniquelly your viewpoint, I'm sorry, but Wikipedia rules on several viewpoints. Cheers. --Joanot Martorell ✉ 22:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Please stop making undiscussed changes. You have been provided with a valid reason why you should not use the wording Valencian Community and you still carry on. I find this highly disruptive and uncivil. There are mechanisms to address any possible bias in the English Wikipedia. If you believe this is the case, please use them and try to reach consensus before engaging on controversial edits. Regards, Asterion^talk 15:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Traducción y adendo: Por favor, deje de efectuar cambios sin discutirlos. Se le ha dado una razón válida de porque no debería usarse el nombre Valencian Community (es una traducción literal del español y es ambigua), y usted insiste en continuar con la campaña de cambios. Su comportamiento es muy molesto y poco civilizado. Existen mecanismos en la wikipedia en inglés para evitar cualquier tipo de prejuicio o bias. Le invito a utilizarlos e intentar alcanzar una solución consensuada, en vez de continuar con polémicos cambios. Saludos, Asterion^talk 15:56, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Balearic Islands

Please do not accuse other editors of vandalism when what is going on is clearly a content dispute. I suggest that you might want to read Wikipedia:Vandalism. - Jmabel | Talk 00:35, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Asturias

Asturian names are not official (some of them are now, really), but they are used and it's presence gives information (as some other toponimy unofficial). Please do not remove information that could be useful or I'll have to acuse you on vandalism. Guestia 19:00, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Russian it's not spoken in Asturias Principality, but Asturian language it's, and names as Principáu d'Asturies are even used by the Administration (see here for example). I must remember you: "Improve pages wherever you can, and don't worry about leaving them imperfect. However, avoid deleting information wherever possible" (from Wikipedia:Editing policy). See Be bold for more details. And this is English Wikipedia, please talk in English. Guestia 14:54, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

French Pays Basque is Basque

I do not understand your insistence on making this politically-motivated, factually inaccurate set of changes to the Basque categories. And to call my reverts vandalism is unfair and offensive.

Basque describes three things: a people (and their culture, language and identity); a historical area and a set of institutions that historically existed of predominantly Basque character; and the modern Basque autonomous community in Spain and Pays Basque region in France (which does not have official status).

To reject Bixente Lizerazu as having Basque identity is pointless. To reject the Kingdom of Navarre as having an element of Basque character and playing a part in Basque history is ignorant. To remove the possibility of French or Navarrese writers, artists, explorers having or claiming Basque identity is unhelpful. To think that Patxaran or Gateau Basque are not as Basque as dishes from Bilbao is clearly stupid. 'Basque' doesn't just describe a part of Spain and you shouldn't try and claim it.

Please leave the hierarchy alone or at least engage in debate before making these radical changes. I have asked this of you before. Martín (saying/doing) 13:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. For your information, Scotland is officially referred to as a nation, so yes, it is. But that is not my point. I am not being nationalist when I state that cuisine from Biarritz, or a Basque language writer from Tudela, or a football player who has played for both the French national side and the Basque side should be included in a hierarchy of Basque categories. But to deny any Basqueness for an area and people that at least in part define themselves as such is clearly political and wrong. Martín (saying/doing) 13:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

If Bixente Lizarazu is Basque, is born in a place defined by many people, institutions and even its regional government as the 'Pays Basque', speaks a language called Basque, played for a team defining itself as Basque, has a Basque surname and is recognised as being Basque by 99.9% of Basques and non-Basques alike, does that not entitle Wikipedia to put him into a category hierarchy starting from the 'Basque' point, with appropriate links to all elements of Basque culture. You are not the arbiter of what is Basque. Martín (saying/doing) 14:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Satesclop, I have made a complain on your behaviour at the incidents noticeboard. Your reverts are completely undiscussed and you are showing no sort of respect for recent additions to the articles. If you have a problem with something in particular (i.e. locator maps), please bring this up in the talk page but STOP disrupting the articles with weeks-old reverts. This is completely unacceptable. Regards, --Asterion^talk 18:01, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

• Satesclop, please can you take your anti-Basque and anti-Catalan agenda elsewhere and stop renaming their football teams. A national football team does not have to represent an independent state. There are several cases in Europe alone where autonomous regions have national teams. Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Faroe Islands are all recognised by UEFA and FIFA and use the term national team in their articles. Politcal status has nothing to do with it. Even so both the Basque Country and Catalonia have more autonomy then the above. Djln--Djln 16:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
• Similarly, you will notice that "La Borinqueña" is referred to as the national anthem of Puerto Rico. - Jmabel | Talk 06:33, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

• Satesclop, I have reverted your edits to José Carreras yet again. Please see the discussion for that page, as to the reasons why I made the reverts. Your edits are verging on vandalism, especially the deliberate breaking of links. If it happens yet again, I too I will make a complaint about your behaviour at the incidents noticeboard. I also want to add that by doing this latest wholescale revert without adding any new material yourself, you also deleted all the images, inter-wiki links, and considerable portions of new material that had been added sinced your last edit. If you have a problem with mentioning the word 'Catalan' in an article in the Category:Catalan opera singers, or a rational reason for refusing to allow any mention of Carreras's birth name 'Josep', despite the fact that he uses 'Josep' himself in the official web site for his leukemia foundation, please discuss it here

Voceditenore 21:46, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia as a result of your disruptive edits. You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our neutral point of view policy will not be tolerated.--Asterion^talk 18:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I am blocking you again for further disruption. Please refrain from reverting without explanation. If you have an opinion to discuss, do so beforehand in the article talk page. I am starting to lose my patience. If you carry on like that, the next block will be much longer. I get the impression you are here for the wrong reasons. There are lots of articles to improve, so please just go and find something more useful to do than looking for a cheap fight with other editors. Thanks for reading, Asterion^talk 19:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I am assuming ...

that your visitor was not your friend. Shenme 05:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

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December 2007

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{{Granada-geo-stub}}

Hi - I see you have recently created one or more new stub types. As it states at Wikipedia:Stub, at the top of most stub categories, and in many other places on Wikipedia, it is recommended that new stub types are proposed prior to creation at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, in order to check whether the new stub type is already covered by existing stub types, whether it is named according to stub naming guidelines, whether it is otherwise correctly formatted, whether it reaches the standard threshold for creation of a new stub type, and whether it crosses existing stub type hierarchies. Your new stub type is currently listed at WP:WSS/D - please feel free to make any comments there as to any rationale for this stub type. And please, in future, consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness...wha? 00:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't speak Spanish, so I'll try to simplify. Stub templates and categories should be proposed for discussion before being made (proponer anteriormente crear por discutir) at WP:WSS/P. Stub categories are usually only made if there are 60 stubs on a subject. The other province stubs (like León-geo-stub) have 60 stubs using them. Also, the article is at Granada (province) - the categories should be at Category:Granada (province) and Category:Granada (province) geography stubs. Grutness...wha? 00:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

{{Plazadesoberanía-geo-stub}}

Your change to the above-listed stub template has been reverted. Please do not change accepted and widely-used stub templates into redirects without first proposing these changes at WP:WSS/P. Grutness...wha? 22:57, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Geo-stub templates

Please do not make changes to stub templates without first proposing them! Your chnges have been reverted. f you wish to propose new categories or make major changes to templates, propose them first at WP:WSS/P. Changing a template can have far-reaching effects as they are often transcluded on large numbers of pages. Grutness...wha? 21:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Also please note that removing correctly linked interwiki links (as you did here) and parent categories (as you did here, here, and here) could be construed as vandalism. Be warned that further edits of this sort may see you blocked from editing Wikipedia. Grutness...wha? 08:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Category naming

I see that you appear to have created Category:Valencian Community geography stubs with the intent of renaming Category:Valencia geography stubs and moving all the articles from one category to the other by changing the stub template. Was this category renaming discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:18, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

The place for the discussion of a stub category, R'n'B, is WP:WSS/P or WP:SFD, not WP:CFD. As you can see from further up the page, Satesclop doesn't ever seem keen to discuss any of his stub-related changes with anyone involved in the stub-sorting project. Grutness...wha? 07:51, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Edit warring & personal attacks

Please refrain from personal attacks such as referring to another editor as an ignoramus, and removing properly placed deletion/renaming templates from stub templates and categories. Your edits are not contributing to the development or discussion of the items involved. Pegship (talk) 20:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest you leave your feelings out of it. The other editor in this discussion is extremely well-versed in both world geography and WP structure and process, and he's only trying to help. Please stick to the facts; WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not effective as a point of discussion. If you have something objective and factual to share, please do so rather than edit-warring and complaining. Pegship (talk) 20:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

My bad

I apologize for changing the image on the stub templates. I wasn't aiming at the image, rather the {{asbox}} format, which is problematic in stub templates. I'll be more careful in future. Meanwhile, please don't remove those deletion tags. Pegship (talk) 20:26, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Frankie Muniz

Hello, Satesclop.

Wikipedia requires that we name articles using the most recognizable name. Any Google search will show that "Frankie Muniz" is that name for the subject of that article. If you'd like to demonstrate otherwise, please do. SamEV (talk) 22:54, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Spain geo-stubs

This is your last warning. Please desist from unilaterally changing stub templates that have been discussed and agreed upon. Doing so without discussing the matter is the wrong way of going about things. If you wish to make changes, then discuss them - without insults, without shoulting, and in the correct forums (in this case, Wikipedia talk: WikiProject Stub sorting or one of that project's subpages). To simply change the templates without discussion is vandalism - it is disrupting the use and standard style of the templates, and causing considerable work for other editors and administrators - and you will be blocked from editing if you persist. Removal of sfd tags from templates and categories also constitutes a form of vandalism. In the case of Ceuta and Melilla, it is clearly stated in both the templates and categories that the stub type is for not only the Plazas de soberanía but also for the autonomous cities of Ceuta and Melilla. No-one is claiming that Ceuta and Melilla are plazas de soberanía. Similarly, some of the article edits you have made have removed important information: reducing mention of Ceuta and Melilla being Spanish exclaves on the north African coast to simply being cities in Spain considerably reduces the amount of information about the location of these cities. They are exclaves (i.e., they are parts of Spain not physically joined to the rest of the country), and they are on the north African coast - removing this information could also be construed as vandalism, as it removes important information from each article.

With regard to your other particular questions on my user talk page: 1) Why eliminate the word Spain? - because template messages should be short, and it is obvious to anyone who reads the article on the Canary Islands, or looks in the Category:Canary Islands geography stubs, that the Canary islands are part of Spain. There is no need for it to be mentioned on the template. 2) Why remove the map? Because the map adds nothing to the template, and for the most part flags, being a fairly standard size, are preferable. Furthermore, several of the map images were in jpeg form rather than being vector images - where possible vector images are preferred on Wikipedia, especially when something is reduced to small size such as a stub icon.

I have, however, returned the maps to the templates since they seem so important to you. The main purpose of the edits was to return those templates to the agreed, non-asbox form, rather than have one user decide unilaterally what is best. As pointed out above, these changes should be discussed, not simply done. Read Be bold's section on why being bold is not the best course of action for templates and categories. If you wish to discuss potential changes to these templates and categories, do so - don't simply make changes which go against the existing consensus. As for your automatic assumption that I know nothing of Spain and your attempts to insult me and other editors, I suggest that you read WP:Etiquette. Grutness...wha? 01:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Your changes to stubs relating to Spains autonomous cities and communities have been reverted, and the new categories you re-made after their lawful deletion at WP:SFD have been speedily deleted. You have made no attempt to discuss these changes in the correct forums as you have been advised to do in the past. If you persist in altering these templates and re-creating these categories, I will have no option but to consider what you are doing as vandalism, and you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Grutness...wha? 02:38, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Re;Plazasdesoberanía-geo-stub

I seem to have told you this about 100 times already - READ THE WORDING OF THE TEMPLATE. This article about a location in Spain's autonomous north African cities or Plazas de soberanía is a stub. One or the other. That is, it is for places that are either in the PdS or in the two autonomous cities. The template makes it clear that neither Ceuta nor Melilla is a PdS. I have never claimed that either Ceuta or Melilla is a PdS, and neither has anyone in WikIProject Stub sorting. The stubs for the three places are currently grouped together in the same category, however (which equally makes it purpose clear) since there are not 60 separate stubs for each of the three places, which is the necessary minimum before separate stub categories are created. Grutness...wha? 21:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Escudo de España

Buenas. ¿puede saberse porqué pones un escudo de España NO OFICIAL en la página de wikipedia? Puede que sea más bonito, pero no cambies el escudo oficial por un escudo "heráldico", sin ni siquiera comentar tus cambios en el artículo de España (además de que has hecho una multitud de ediciones seguidas ¿no sabes usar la función mostrar previsualización?. No vuelvas a cambiar el escudo oficial a tu gusto. Un saludo. M.Jovellanos (talk) 11:40, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Lo siento si como le he hablado a Vd. le ha molestado. Le aseguro que me iba a referir a Vd. en otros términos, pero desde que vi su historial de modificaciones y el resto de comentarios de otros usuarios de Wikipedia acerca de la parcialidad y recurrencia de sus modificaciones se me templó el ánimo, cosa que me pasa a menudo cuando participo de buen talante en este proyecto. Aún no sé qué le motivó a Vd. a cambiar el escudo de España por uno no oficial, pero le ruego que acepte mis disculpas por el modo de referirme a Vd. Ahora bien, espero que sus modificaciones en wikipedia sean modificaciones verdaderamente de buen talante, esperando contribuir al saber general, no modificaciones innecesarias o a propósito erróneas (esto que le pongo a Vd. lo hago basándome en su historial, no en lo que pienso).

Muchas gracias por su atención y un saludo. M.Jovellanos (talk) 18:51, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Algunas dudas

Hola SATESCLOP, VASCO desde Portugal al habla,

A lo mejor nos aclaramos: en Joan Capdevila, has deshecho mis acciones y puesto que el nombre de este personaje es Catalán, eso no se usa, usamos en WP un "template" de nombres Españoles, no Catalanes, Andaluces o Vascos. Por favor déjalo así (y a lo mejor "Capdevila" sí es Catalan, te doy la razón, pero "Méndez"? De lo más normalito y corriente en tu país, creo yo).

También has quitado, sin explicación, que este jugador no ha jugado con su selección autonómica. Puedes dar fe de ello? Gracias por todo, buena semana - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 22:27, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

• Mi mensaje ha sido educado creo yo. Tu "contestación", quitar todo otra vez, sin una palabra. Si me dijeras "Por favor no lo pongas más, Capdevila nunca ha jugado con Cataluña", aunque fuera mentira, porque ha jugado con su equipo autonómico, a veces no lo sabemos todo, y sería un error humano de tu parte, y no habría ningun problema. Pero quitarlo, a secas? OK, ya sé como hacer de aquí en adelante. "Gracias", hasta otra.

P.S. Como has dicho a User:M.Jovellanos - a lo mejor a mí también me toca, aunque creo que ní eso, si no contestaste al primer mensaje, porqué al segundo? - claro que yo no soy nadie para venirte con exigencias, puedes hacer lo que quieras, dentro de las normas. Pero las normas de WP no incluyen el quitar dados verdaderos (Capdevila ha jugado con Cataluña). - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 14:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

• Aunque me parece un poco exagerada tu reacción - "no voy a permitirlo" - puedes quedarte tranquilo, no lo voy a poner más, no voy a malgastar mis energías en entrar en WIKI-guerra con alguién por algo que no me importa demasiado (y con todos los respetos hacia tu país, en su todo, lo que quiero decir que no me importa es si un artículo está así o asado). Lo que voy a hacer es poner una discusión en WP:FOOTY, y así quedar más "iluminado" al respecto. Vosotros, hagan lo que os parezca oportuno. Saludos - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 20:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah, y me parece que tu "situación" es unicamente com la selección catalana. Y la vasca, que aparece en un montón de artículos? No es su estatuto el mismo perante la FIFA? No me parece muy razonable que digamos pero lo dicho, no lo voy a inserir más, ni en Capdevila ni en ningun otro jugador. Que haya paz! - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 20:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Vitoria-Gasteiz

Could you PLEASE explain why you insist on putting a link in that only leads to a redirect? This is getting a bit silly and you're not giving any reasons, not even in your edit summaries. Akerbeltz (talk) 12:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Satesclop

We appreciate your contributions to User talk:Satesclop, but since this is the English Wikipedia, you should communicate only in English, especially if there is a conflict (like this case) and outsiders are monitoring the situation. See Wikipedia:Talk#Good_practices for more information. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 15:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit war

Hello. You appear to be involved in an edit war on Gerard Piqué. While the three-revert rule is hard and fast, please be aware that you can be blocked for edit warring without making 3 reverts to an article in 24 hours. You are not entitled to 3 reverts and are expected to cooperatively engage other editors on talk pages rather than reverting their edits. Note that posting your thoughts on the talk page alone is not a license to continue reverting. You must reach consensus. Continued edit warring may cause you to be blocked. Toddst1 (talk) 15:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

You have been temporarily blocked from editing for edit warring and continued WP:CIVIL violations as discussed on ANI. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Toddst1 (talk) 15:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Page move

Why did you move Castilla-La Mancha back to Castile-La Mancha when two editors had agreed this move. The phrase Castile-La Manchais half English / half Spanish and has no real usage in English. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:41, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Spain

I did not accept your edit, please explain your propooed edits on the talk page where an active discussion is underway. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:01, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Please provide information on why you didn't discuss these edits on the talk page before you added them back after they had been reverted. I reverted those edits you made. Dumaka (talk) 18:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Ceuta

Hello. I did not want to get into an edit war with you on this subject, but it is evident from the two reversions that occurred recently, that you likely do so. I have done four things on the Ceuta page, that you have reverted: copy-edit the grammar, relocated images, restructured the content and updated the infobox to the standardized Geobox. Can you please justify the reversions? All three were done in good faith and without removing content. Furthermore, the inclusion of the Geobox is allowed, since it is being used as a standardization of all geographic content that incorporated in the Infobox, with all the existing standards. Furthermore, the updated Geobox includes new material that was not included, and all the other preexisting content. Could you please tell me what is wrong with those revisions. Ruben JC 13:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Please justify your complete reverts on Favonian's and my original reverts: Undid revision 381510414 by Favonian (talk) esta versión está mucho mejor)? My updates have increased content, updated bad grammar and improved positioning of images. I note that the revised Geobox doubled the amount of information that was not at all present in the older infobox.Ruben JC 15:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Your tendency to revert people's edits on this page is becoming indefensible. Please desist, there are many users who have contributed to the content on this page, not just myself, and you have not justified why their edits have been reverted to a poorly written, unorganized and intentionally data-lacking version. What is worse, you don't seem to want consensus. This page is not a personal fiefdom. Ruben JC (Zeorymer) 19:59, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

August 2010

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Template:Catalan name, you may be blocked from editing. You seem to have a general problem with Catalan not being identical with Spanish. Do not attempt any more undiscussed redirects or similar changes! Favonian (talk) 15:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

This is the final warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Basque Country (autonomous community), you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

This is the final warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did to Spain, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Jezhotwells (talk) 12:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

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What is and isn't vandalism

Please don't accuse other users of vandalism as you did in this edit summary. That edit is clearly not vandalism and edits like that could be seen as personal attacks. Valenciano (talk) 21:47, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

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Edit warring

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Valencian community. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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February 2016

It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Talk:Basque Country (autonomous community). While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 03:57, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

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Vandalismo

Por favor, no vandalices más en los artículos de las comunidades autónomas de España. Tu puedes tener el sentimiento i la ideologia que quieras, pero esto es una enciclopedia. No hagas más política. Si continuas vandalizando me veré obligado a denunciarte. Muchas gracias ;).

Perdona el plagio descarado, pero parece ser que se puede usar indistinatamente tu mensaje de manera recíproca, tal y como van las cosas. Insisto en que no veo nacionalismo catalán por ninguna parte, pero todo se puede discutir y podemos hablar con calma sobre que añadidos consideras como "nacionalismo" en las páginas de Cataluña, la bandera de Andorra o el Principado de Cataluña, así como entender si hay nacionalismo español en ciertas acciones contrarias. Pero intentemos ir de buena fe en un principio, quizá podamos llegar a un consenso y todo. :) Jacobí (talk) 11:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

February 2016

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Vanjagenije (talk) 22:04, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

• No, I'm afraid this is now an indefinite block. The level of socking here is quite extensive, and your history of using a sockpuppet should have been warning enough. (See User_talk:Diplomatiko). If you want to be unblocked, you're going to need to provide a high degree of assurances you will never disrupt the project again. Courcelles (talk) 04:12, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

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