Sankarrukku

Iyers

Hullo sir, how do u do? this is with regard to 'Iyers' Wikipedia article. I've just included a reference to the general belief that Iyers migrated to the south from other parts of India. I hope you dont mind. Besides, I also feel that Migrations to Tamil Nadu are more of a legendary character and might be included in 'Origins' rather than 'Migrations'.Also, I dont think references to Mulukanadu are relevant to 'Migrations to Tamil Nadu'.True, a number of Mulukanadu Brahmins have migrated to Tamil Nadu from time to time and are designated as 'Iyers' but then, Mulukanadu Brahmins of Andhra Pradesh like V.V.S.Laxman,etc. are also referred to as Iyers. See List of Iyers.Regards :-) -Ravichandar84 03:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately this is only a belief. Many Tamil Brahmins would like to believe this as it gives them a common root with the so called Aryans of North India. Such claims are made by Namboothiris also. I have been searching for some clue or even collective memory about this migration for more than a decade with no success.

The article in Chennai on line is not an authority. This article talks about Gurukkal being the older brahmins. Gurukkals are followers of Saiva Siddhanta which originated in Kashmir in first century B.C. Most of the non-Brahmin forward castes in Tamil Nadu follow Saiva Siddhanta. They can also legitimately claim Kashmiri origin.

Articles in popular especially on line journals and web sites are seldom based on any research. Having evaluated thousands of sites as editor in ODP I am aware of this. For example the web site Kerala Iyers.com has completley ignored the Pandi Iyers.

Please revert to what I had stated. That avoids the inter caste/racial conflicts. Thanks.

About migrations it is a tricky problem. The Tamil Brahmins from Thirunelveli migrated to Nanjil Nadu (present Knayakumari district). When they came in it was Venadu which later became Travancore. Now it is part of Tamil Nadu. So are they migrants? Again how can you migrate to Kerala in 1600 when Kerala was formed only in 1956.

--Sankarrukku 06:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Devi Mahatmya

Busy in real life. will let you know.--Redtigerxyz 14:34, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Frankly speakly at this stage the article is hardly a B class article. Many things to do.--Redtigerxyz 05:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I only reviewed the lead. I think there is a lot of work to be done. Why did you already archive the peer review? – Ilse@ 07:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello!

Hi Sankarukku! I just saw your wonderful work on Devi Mahatmya. I think if a few more sources dd added to the sourceless sections and if someone gives it a solid copyedit, it will be very close to an FA. Also, when you have the time can please take a look at Hinduism and Ganesha which are the other Hinduism articles that are close to FA. Thanks! Gizza^{Discuss ©} 04:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I have revised some of the sections and standardized the references as suggested.--Sankarrukku 13:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Devanagari Font

Hi ! I wanted to ask you which devanagari font you used in Devi Mahatmya?? Thanks. --Redtigerxyz 09:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.--Redtigerxyz 10:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Shanti Mantra

Thanks alot for your help in inproving Shanti Mantra article.

Lokesh 2000 04:50, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Mahakali and Chandi

As long as you ref matter, i am ok with its inclusion. Plz include this ref in Chandi too. Also, i think you can help in expanding the Mahakali article. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Please do not misunderstand. WP says that something that can be challenged should be referenced. It is not a well-known fact that Mahalakshmi temple is dedicated to the Mahalakshmi of the devi mahatmya, but it is supposed that it is dedicated to Lakshmi. see mention of temple in the article Lakshmi, even the Mahalaxmi temple (Kolhapur) link says so and The reason may be the association with Venkateshwara.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 04:58, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for your valuable input into the Hinduism discussion. Thanks Again --Sikh-History 22:06, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

About my changes that you reverted in the Iyer page.

As you reverted my changes regarding the fact "iyengars ranked above iyers" , citing errors in the book ,i can show you numerous errors in Edgar Thurston's "Caste & Tribes" book.

01. Thurston & Rangachari mention a one tummangutta vaishnavas . There is no such caste among iyengars .

02. Nowhere in this page had it ever been mentioned that these are the authors' own imaginative theories ,but have rather uploaded them as authentic facts .

03. The Kathleen Gough article mentions "smartha or Saivites". This need not neccessarily mean that she is equating smartha & shaivites as one.

04. If Kathleen's article is prone to deletion from being a reference, then all references given from "Caste & tribes" are to be deleted ,as the book is not uploaded for free viewing in google books, nor have anyone provided the isbn numbers for it.

05. If anything is irrelevant ,delete all references made from "Caste & Tribes..." first.

I'm sorry . But my change which you wrongly reverted still falls as valid under wiki norms, & i'm restoring it. I know that the irrelevance regarding continuity from the previuos line is true, as you stated . But if u r deleting it , i can still remove all references made from "Caste & Tribes". The thurston , Rangachari book has no free viewing at all in the internet ,& none from this community had ever provided any ISBN number for the book. Also the book has numerous errors in itself.

Adi Shankara's caste does have relevance. It gives an idea as to what the iyers were, before getting into Shankara sampradayam . Also ,one cannot rule out the namboodari admixture in the iyer population. By the way the namboodari origin of shankara is a fact ,and not an allegation from any author.

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Smartism

It really depends on what region of India. According to an old 1920 reference (University of Michigan) (http://books.google.com/books?id=wRMaAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA293&dq=smarta&hl=en&ei=gIg_TZQcxZKBB6LplI8D&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=smarta&f=false ) in the south, smarta= Advaita while in the North India, a smarta follower can belong to any of the six systems of Hindu philosphy. Raj2004 (talk) 02:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

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I had clearly stated that this is a Photograph by self of a painting in Vajreswari temple, Kangra, India. Taken with a 35 mm film camera. Print was scanned and converted to jpg image. The painting is more than 100 years old. I have clarified the position here. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Mahasaraswati.jpg Sankarrukku (talk) 05:55, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

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Please refrain from making reverts in Kerala Iyer article. You can utilize the talk page for discussions, and arrive at a consensus before making change in the article. If you continue reverts, you may get blocked. Thank you,--Vythiri (talk) 06:50, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

I started the discussion of this article in 2007. You should have joined the discussions before making any changes in the article. You failed to do so. Do so now. I have also posted in your talk page.Sankarrukku (talk) 07:39, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Smartism

Thanks for catching that. You are correct that Smarta brahmins are not exclusively Advaita.

Raj2004 (talk) 15:02, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

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Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests#My_edits_keep_getting_reverted._What_should_I_do.3F

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Am I blocked permanently? Thank you for making me see the light. With my quaint ideas of truth and honesty, I should not be editing Wikipedia. I am waiting for the block to end so that I can delete the details on my user page and quit. Did you notice that I had tried all the methods enumerated by you except Page protection? Sankarrukku (talk) 14:22, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I am quitting.

I am not interested in playing the game in Wikipedia. I quit. Sankarrukku (talk) 17:59, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

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