User talk:S charette/Archive 1

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In regards to Wikipedia, 3 things you should know about me:

1. I'm not perfect. If I've done something wrong or something that offends you, just let me know -- I most likely didn't even realize what happened! I think this comes down to WP:AGF.
2. I strongly believe in WP:CITE. Especially since while I'm on patrol for vandalism I end up reading through articles on unfamiliar subjects. Without the proper references and citations, there are times when it can be difficult to tell between fact and targetted vandalism.
3. I strongly believe in WP:OWN. I've run into several articles now on Wikipedia where someone believes they own the article and wont let anyone else contribute. I think this harms Wikipedia in the long run. If you feel so strongly about a topic or an article that you wont let anyone else touch it, then you contribute to the type of frustration that causes editors to turn away from Wikipedia.

Please add new topics or comments at the bottom of this talk page.

--Stephane Charette 05:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Intelligent Medical Imaging

Stephane Charette wrote:

Thanks for "bankrupcy -> bankruptcy". Does this mean you've now started with the 'B's? :) --Stephane Charette 16:50, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, after a mere 3,300 'A' corrections, I think I've more or less done all the common errors. I must update my user page, thanks for reminding me! It's a long job, this – fortunately, Fuhghettaboutit seems to be doing a similar sort of thing (I think he's on 'O' at the moment), and there are plenty of people participating at Wikipedia:Typo. Of course, if you do find anything I've missed (i.e. isn't on the list at User:Gurch/Spelling), by all means let me know -- Gurch 20:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Confédération

No problem. I'd try to write a bit more, but I really don't know what. I suppose I'll try to dig down into their site when I have some more time. Oh, and I discovered a photo of the school I took back in December on my hard drive — uploaded it here (warning, 1.6 MB). Kind of blurry and the weather didn't exactly co-operate, but if you have an idea as to where it could be placed let me know. Thanks, Qviri (talk) 04:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Well, the blocks were a month apart, and for that, we'll often give them a couple of chances. If he had vandalized again, he would've gotten a 24 hour block. However, we don't want to risk it in case it's a special IP. Since the vandalism was to a school (and previous vandalism was not realted), it's possible that it may have been from a school computer. — Deckiller 20:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

You're right, the address (User talk:216.191.40.138) points back to a company in Toronto that provides many internet-based services, including hosting, dial-up, and dedicated business access. Blocking the IP range could affect quite a lot of users. Thanks for the guidance. --Stephane Charette 20:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Your welcome ;D — Deckiller 20:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Image tags

You asked Smiker

Just curious to know what the importance is with all the images that are being changed from {{logo}} to {{logo|Academic institution logos}}. I've written a number of school articles, and I've seen you change a few of the logo tags. If I understood/knew about this, I could make certain any future school article logos are tagged appropriately. --Stephane Charette 13:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Currently the Category:logos holds about 24,000 images and needs to be subcategorised. You can see the current subcategories. The {{logo}} template will now take a piped argument which specify a subcategory. (Alternatively, before this was set up there are other templates such as {{univlogo}} for universities). Therefore, it would help if the school or academic logos used this form. Hope this answers your questions. Thanks for asking. Smiker 13:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Brookie here

Thanks for the note - the Jack faux article disappeared from his conts list when I deleted it - hence the comments you make. He clearly needs watching - if we get more vandalsim from him I'll block him - he's on my watchlist! Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 10:47, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Blocking problems

Looks like some IP address blocks are causing pain for several users tonight, including myself. While logged in as myself and trying to edit, I've received several "block" messages:

• You were blocked by User:Naconkantari for [...]: because your IP address has been recently used by "User:Jacky1234".
• You were blocked by User:Freakofnurture for [...]: because your IP address has been recently used by "User:Hitlersson".
• You were blocked by User:Curps for [...]: because your IP address has been recently used by "User:Ihatewikipediafuckthat".

Bad enough when vandalism messes with the articles, but blocks to try and prevent vandalism are blocking legitimate users. Sigh.

According to Wikipedia, my IP address seems to keep changing every few seconds between these:

• 64.233.172.24
• 64.233.172.34
• 64.233.172.35
• 64.233.172.40

(I'm guessing Telus has a farm of transparent proxy servers for their ADSL customers like myself. --Stephane Charette 06:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I figured it out. Those IP addresses are not my ISP -- they belong to Google! I'm using Google Web Accelerator on my Windows PC, so all of my HTTP traffic is proxied through Google:

NetRange:   64.233.160.0 - 64.233.191.255 
CIDR:       64.233.160.0/19 
NetName:    GOOGLE
NetHandle:  NET-64-233-160-0-1
Parent:     NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType:    Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.GOOGLE.COM
NameServer: NS2.GOOGLE.COM

Obviously these vandals must have been using the same tool. We need to re-open that block of IP addresses since many people are likely to be using them, vandals as well as legitimate users. --Stephane Charette 07:09, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok. I released all the autoblocks I could find that were associated with those usernames. — Apr. 7, '06 [07:21] <freakofnur_xture|talk>

If you have any more problems, post {{unblock}} on your talk page, identifying the name of whichever blocked user who is causing the collateral damage by still trying to edit after his block, somebody will take care of it. — Apr. 7, '06 [07:24] <freakofnur_xture|talk>

Hmmm, I hate to say it but those IP's semi fall into the category of open proxy (as it can be used by anyone), it would be best to edit with GWA off (if you can, if you can't can you make a note of it here or on my talk page) -- Tawker 07:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

{{sharedip|Google Web Accelerator}} would be your best bet on those pages but I get the feeling that some admins will block for that rather than not block -- Tawker 08:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Quilchena Elementary School

Usgnus, I think to prevent further confusion going forward, we need to create the Richmond school article. I put in the disambiguation page last week, but I'd really like to see an article for the 2nd school with that same name. I'll keep an eye out for it -- if you don't have time to do it today, I'll try to get it done tomorrow. Note that I've left a note to User talk:208.181.90.67 to see if he/she wants to contribute. --Stephane Charette 19:01, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I think the solution is to change the redirect from Quilchena Elementary School so that it goes to a disambiguation page instead of the Vancouver school. Usgnus 19:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Didn't even realize that page existed. It now redirects to the disambiguation. --Stephane Charette 03:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

==Welcome to VandalProof== Thanks for your interest in VandalProof! You've been added to the list of authorized users, and feel free to contact me or post a message on VandalProof's talk page if you have any questions. AmiDaniel (Talk) 03:12, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Featherston

Hello, the edits you made to the info box did not work, therefore, they were reverted. Cordially SirIsaacBrock 18:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

The center command and the full http link etc, basically all of the edits you have made. The info box is appropriate as it is now. Cordially SirIsaacBrock 18:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Template: Infobox Education in Canada

Thanks for the note. Although I did find the template used on another article, I checked the template notes before implementing it. (I omitted some info because I didn't have it, if that's what you were wondering.) By the way, I left a note on the template talk page about a few issues I have with formatting. Mindmatrix 18:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof 1.1 is Now Available For Download

Happy Easter to all of you, and I hope that this version may fix your current problems and perhaps provide you with a few useful new tools. You can download version 1.1 at User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof. Let me warn you, however, to please be extremely careful when using the new Rollback All Contributions feature, as, aside from the excessive server lag it would cause if everyone began using it at once, it could seriously aggitate several editors to have their contributions reverted. If you would like to experiment with it, though, I'd be more than happy to use my many sockpuppets to create some "vandalism" for you to revert. If you have any problems downloading, installing, or otherwise, please tell me about them at User:AmiDaniel/VP/Bugs and I will do my best to help you. Thanks. AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:50, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

From Chirp Cricket

What kind of lizard were you talking about on my page?

Signed, --Cricket Boy 00:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Wanna be pen pals (or, you could say, keyboard pals)?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Chirp Cricket (talk • contribs)

I don't generally socialize

with crickets who at times

are prone to vandalize.

--Stephane Charette 06:27, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I was unecessarily harsh. You were asking us to unblock the IP address 204.108.72.26, which led me to think you were part of the group that vandalizes from the school in question (Los Angeles Unified School District). My appologies. --Stephane Charette 19:00, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

From Chirp Cricket

I don't vandilize. I discovered the block on the IP address when I went to my user page. Again, I do not vandilize.

I never did any vandilization in my entire life, so don't say that I vandilize, because I don't.

Signed, --Cricket Boy 17:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Harry

Hi SCharette. Pray tell me how a user with your range of interests latched on to the garbage that was placed in the "Harry" article? Sweetalkinguy 12:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)  :-)

Just browsing through the list of recent changes last night. --Stephane Charette 19:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Greece and related vandalism

The ip used in the vandalism of the article on greece http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece is a common ip shared by all college residents at a university. There are (as stated) over a thousand people that access the internet through that proxy, so I hope it will not be banned. My apologies, I hope the vandal does not return.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.172.4.44 (talk • contribs)

Me again - The warning/message has now been removed, thanks.

My User Talk Page

Stop stalking me and stop spamming my user talk page, your Mcpinions do not interest me. SirIsaacBrock 10:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

The comment above is in regards to Featherston Drive Public School to which I added the {{Infobox Education in Canada}} and which SirIsaacBrock keeps reverting. --Stephane Charette 17:10, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

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SirIsaacBrock (talk · contribs) removes comments and reverts his talk page to remove references to this problem, so I've brought the (reverted) discussion over to my own talk page:

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Monkey-baiting

I don't see how my omission of two (IMO unwiki) sentences struck you as vandalism. I have left a message on talk:Monkey-baiting responding to the assertion. It might be presumptious to say this to someone with far greater Wikipedia presence, but remember that no single editor owns any single article on Wikipedia. - JustSomeKid 22:10, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

SirIsaacBrock: I agree with JustSomeKid -- it seems you have a tendency "own" articles. My recent experience with you is similar, where immediately after I'd make a change you'd revert it with an overly critical summary like "improper edits removed", "revert damaging last edit", or "Low quality template removed" [1] (e.g., see discussion several comments above on Featherston Drive Public School). I understand you want to contribute, but you must also be willing to allow other members of Wikipedia to contribute as well. Spending your time reverting perfectly valid changes -- remember we're not talking about vandalism here! -- is not the best way to contribute to Wikipedia. --Stephane Charette 03:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Your comment on my talk page:

Stop stalking me and stop spamming my user talk page, your Mcpinions do not interest me. SirIsaacBrock 10:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Commenting on a someone's talk page about problems with articles that the person in question keeps reverting is neither spamming nor stalking. The point is we (other editors) still have ongoing problems with you refusing to accept edits made by other people. In a comment above from 9 days ago, I asked the following:

If you have decided that this article cannot or should not have the template, please add a comment next to the school on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Education in Canada.

Since you haven't commented about this since then, does it mean you've decided to stop reverting changes made by other such as myself? --Stephane Charette 17:23, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Re:ZsinjBot

Whoops! I make the lists of pages manually and filter out anything that's not User talk. I guess that one had gotten past me. Thanks. --Zsinj^Talk 14:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been temporarily blocked from editing for continuous vandalism of one or more user's pages on Wikipedia. You are welcome to return and contribute to Wikipedia after the block expires. However if you vandalise again you may be subject to a longer block.

Royboycrashfan 17:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I would really like to see a good reason why I am blocked. I have not vandalized. Please review! I suspect this has to do with SirIsaacBrock (talk · contribs) who keeps reverting changes that I and other editors keep making, and who doesn't like the discussions on his talk page.

Additionally, I'm dissapointed that an administrator can immediately block when a user such as myself:

1. contributes as much to Wikipedia as I do
2. has never had a problem with any other user on Wikipedia
3. has never had a single warning since joining Wikipedia
4. is himself a patroller for vandalism!

--Stephane Charette 17:43, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

SirIsaacBrock (talk · contribs) requested the block on WP:AIV, saying you were stalking him and spamming his talk page. For this, I cannot unblock you. Royboycrashfan 17:52, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, that sounds fine, except that it isn't true! Please look through the logs, or look at the discussion that I've brought onto my own talk page (see coment above) where he deletes from his talk page comments that he doesn't agree with. First of all, I'm not a stalker, and 2nd I'm not a vandal, and 3rd I'm not a spammer. That user is unhappy because as a member of the Education in Canada Wiki project, I attempted to update an article on his high school with a standard infobox template. So now I'm accused of various things, and I find myself blocked. Obviously this isn't the right way to go about doing things! --Stephane Charette 17:56, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

In addition, even if me having posted comments on SirIsaacBrock's user page could somehow be seen as vandlism, the WP:AIV specifically states:

1. The vandal has been warned with the appropriate warning templates. If you can't justify leaving these messages on a user's talk page, it likely isn't vandalism.
2. The vandal vandalized within the last few hours and after the final warning.

I think this user is very good at bullying users, and him posting my name on WP:AIV is part of his game. Please see the comments on his talk page -- you'll notice that other administrators have left him comments about trying to do this to other users.

--Stephane Charette 18:00, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I have reviewed his talk page and contributions and have decided to unblock you. I'll give him a warning if he continues to blank your (or anyone else's) comments. Royboycrashfan 18:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Note that I am still blocked:

Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing.
You were blocked by Royboycrashfan for the following reason (see our blocking policy):
"Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "S charette". The reason given for S charette's block is:
"stalking/vandalism"."
Your IP address is 207.216.228.122.

I would have appreciated it if SirIsaacBrock (talk · contribs) had received a warning for not only removing the comments and discussion on his talk page for reverting article edits to articles he owns, but also for being told before that WP:AIV is for repeat vandal offenders when this is simply the case of him not agreeing with me. He is using WP:AIV to bully users and shut them up -- not the intended use of AIV. --Stephane Charette 18:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Still blocked, even 4 hours after I was told I'd be unblocked. :( --Stephane Charette 22:02, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi. The 'lingering block' here is due to something called 'auto block'. Basically, while a user is blocked any attempt to edit from the same IP address results in that address / user ALSO being blocked. Then, even if the original block is removed the presence of that auto-block prevents the user from editing. I think I have unblocked the auto-blocked address and that you should now be able to edit. --CBDunkerson 22:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm still blocked:

Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing.
You were blocked by Royboycrashfan for the following reason (see our blocking policy):
"Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "S charette". The reason given for S charette's block is:
"stalking/vandalism"."
Your IP address is 207.216.228.122.

--Stephane Charette 23:29, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Applaud you for staying calm

Hello Stephane Charette : ) I want to applaud you for staying reasonably calm through out this incident. It speaks well of you as an editor and a person. I'm not an administrator so I can't help. Just giving moral support. regards --FloNight ^talk 00:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. That helped. This has been a frustrating day. --Stephane Charette 06:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Still blocked?

I just unblocked the IP address you mentioned above. Hopefully that will successfully unblock you. Sorry about the trouble. JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I just tried to edit a random article. Still blocked:

Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing.
You were blocked by Royboycrashfan for the following reason (see our blocking policy):
"stalking/vandalism"
Your IP address is 207.216.228.122. 

--Stephane Charette 02:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I found and explicitly removed the original autoblock. Can you edit now? —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 11:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you -- things are working again. --Stephane Charette 22:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, by now the 24-hour autoblock has (or would have) expired anyway. So I'm not sure if I can actually take credit for anything. Anyway, nice to see this sorted out. Happy editing! —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 06:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)