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MOS:RJL spamming

Why are you spamming hundreds of articles with tags? What benefit does this give to the reader? The best advice I've seen is from the classic User:Beyond My Ken/Thoughts "Editors should also remember that the Manual of Style presents guidelines to assist us, not strict rules to be slavishly followed with dogmatic intrasigence. The presentation of references should be judged as every other contribution to Wikipedia should be judged: Is it clear? Does it present the information in an unambiguous and coherent manner? Is the visual presentation clean and uncluttered? If it meets these conditions, then it should not be reverted: almost nothing on Wikipedia is more lame, or reflect worse on good-faith editors, than edit-warring on the basis of "The MoS says so!". I get utterly depressed looking through Pink Floyd articles like "Echoes", finding unsourced information that's sat in there for years, while people squabble over formatting and templates, leading to two depressing Arbcom cases. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:17, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

In the course of such "spamming" I have noticed how said articles are often not accessibility compliant and often do not present the information in both miles and kilometers. Rather than seeing this through a political lens, can you take a dispassionate look at the merits of MOS:RJL? --Rschen7754 19:28, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
I rarely go onto the MOS because frankly I don't understand it or how it helps the reader gain knowledge. By my own admission, I completely suck at templates and infoboxes, because I just don't have the time to understand what they mean and how they benefit the reader? How are they not accessibility compliant? Bear in mind I have, as stated on my user page, bad eyesight and have required glasses since I was eleven years old, and cannot generally look at more than 1080p resolution on a 24" monitor. And presenting in miles and kilometres is political, because professional highways engineers use the latter, no matter what the UKIP or Brexit Party might claim otherwise. So, to repeat, can you explain these issues in terms my mother could understand? If you can't, it may highlight a problem. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:34, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
TBH that template would be better suited for filling a tracking category. It's utility as an ambox is pretty limited as its target audience is largely we who edit road articles. –Fredddie 20:17, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
because professional highways engineers use the latter very well, but most of us aren't and we shouldn't expect someone (in the US, or in the UK, or in any country in the world really) to have to pull out a calculator to understand the distances. As far as the accessibility issues, you can't convey information in only graphics or colors that a visually impaired person cannot understand, among other things. --Rschen7754 23:09, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
I know all of that - I've just told you I've got bad eyesight so please do not patronise me about accessibility when it can directly affect me - but I was asking for specifics. You haven't specified exactly what you're looking for or what action you want taken. Is to add {{convert}} to various entries? Is it to replace one template field with another? Is is to add alt tags to images? Or is it something else entirely? By dropping a load of unhelpful and unexplained tags on 150 articles for seemingly no reason, all you've done is irritate people. I notice I'm not the only one to revert your drive by tagging simply because you haven't explained what action you want taken - and looking that article, it already has distances in metric and imperial anyway. And, furthermore, the document you quoted says "While this document has been developed to provide a basis for a uniform presentation of road junction information, not all information is applicable to all roads in all regions. Thus, certain provisions of this guideline are noted as being for optional use." So what is the problem? It'll take you, what, five minutes to fix up a couple of templates, why haven't you done this yourself? Perhaps if you'd actually done the work instead of hectoring other people in an unnecessarily patronising manner, you might have actually got the result you wanted. Something to think about.
Incidentally, "can you explain these issues in terms my mother could understand" comes from Joel Spolsky's "Guerrilla Guide to Interviewing", whereby if candidates continued to use jargon and fail to explain to themselves, they'd fail the interview. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:49, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
It'll take you, what, five minutes to fix up a couple of templates, why haven't you done this yourself? When I did similar conversions for California, it took me several months. I would estimate probably 20-30 minutes per article. Nobody expects that it will be done right away or even within the next year (does any cleanup template mean this?) - this is just noting that there is a problem that should be addressed at some point. Why did I add the tags? Because RJL has been part of the MOS for 10 years and I didn't want nothing to be done about the 2000+ articles worldwide that are still not compliant. (For the record, 4000+ articles are compliant).
Looking specifically at M25, I have a lot of questions. What do the italics and bold mean? Why are things in ALL CAPS (which is another violation of MOS)? What do the seemingly random colors mean? Why are there two columns that say almost the same thing? What city or location are these junctions in (besides just the county)? I think I know what the big red C means (congestion charge) but the average non-UK reader would not. While we recommend using a template like {{Jctint}} as it makes any future changes easier, it is not required, so long as the columns are similar and the other MOS/accessibility issues are addressed. --Rschen7754 19:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
And for all the accusations about my being "patronizing" with a 8 character tag and a 3 letter edit summary - your comments above come off to me as quite condescending, as "How dare you tell me that I may be wrong about something since I automatically know better than you". That is not effective communication. Just a thought. --Rschen7754 19:22, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Since this discussion is clearly going places, is my suggestion of making the template just house a tracking category (and thereby removing the visual element of the template) palatable for both of you? –Fredddie 19:57, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

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