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Is there any guidance in Wikipedia on when to directly reference a statement, and when to include fact(s) and give a general "Source" listing.

My current practice is to directly include a "Reference" to anything that may be questioned, is counter-intuitive, or is an opinion directly attibutable to a particular person, document or publication, otherwise to give a "Source".

Romfordian 09:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Citing sources should be what you're looking for. KTC 09:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Thats pretty much it, also you don't always have to link references to statements in the article, so wp:cite for more info.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 09:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Preserving original units

Hello Romfordian, thank you for your extensive recent edits to several rail-related articles; switching the infobox contents to use auto convert macros. For the moment I have temporarilly reverted your changes to the British Rail Class 59, British Rail Class 66 and British Rail Class 67 articles. I noticed that several of these edits had removed a previously accurate figure and replaced it with an inaccurate approximation in another unit base (mostly replacement of metric with imperial).

I do believe that the Template:Convert macros are an excellent improvement and I would be keen to see you re-add your changes in a way that preserves the current values contained in the article as the primary units. The converted approximation from the macro should be the one shown in (brackets). We can remember what happened with the Mars Surveyor '98 program after a double conversion between metric, imperial and back again with rounding at each stage!

Once again, my appreciations for your enthusiasm and I look forwarding to see a variation on your previous edits re-added. Thank you. —Sladen (talk) 22:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi Sladen. Not really surprised that someone reverted these but really appreciate you letting me know the reason :) It's a toss-up between consistency across the piece and usage of what was/is current at the time of order/delivery (I'm guessing that from the 59 onwards, the specs were in metric). I'm happy to re-do with an autoconvert from metric to imperial where I can - although I'll have to write a specific kN-lbf template to go with the lbf-kN that I wrote for the older diesels. However, I'm tempted to keep to mph(km/h) as actual rail speeds will be in mph, and I'm guessing that the locos have speedos in mph. Also, I can't get excited about the odd mm in (say) the length of the loco - get a bit of dust on the buffer shafts, compress them a few times and ..... Romfordian (talk) 13:54, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Any standard for consistency would be to metric, with an exception for other original or specified units. Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Units_of_measurement is basically this (actually, a little stronger) with the exceptions for US and UK (to a lesser degree). The example given being speed-limits in mph, just as you noted.

Are the additional templates necessary (other than feet'+inches"→metres), could Template:convert be used directly... this would keep things in the source code of the infoboxes aligned and easier to follow when editing. The main reason I did the temporary revert was data integrity—ensuring values didn't get disrupted by Chinese Whispers.

I suspect the break-point for widespread metric use in specifications is going to fall around the mid-1980s about at ~Class 58/Class 60/Class 89. Class 91/92 have rated metric speed limits. Roughly I'd just follow wants in the infobox already as the primary unit, the multiple-of-ten/hundred/thousand is probably going to be primary unit (so a 3,000 bhp engine probably still is that... For the EMD 59/66/67 I would suspect these are metric with imperial-engines, but that's just a hunch. Does that help refine some sort of guiding-line? —Sladen (talk) 15:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

NB. I also reverted British Rail Class 58 for the moment; 44inch wheels sounds suspiciously like 1.1m :-) —Sladen (talk) 15:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

For Long Tons/Tonnes, I'd probably consider doing the conversion x LT (y T), but not the other way, if the original is metric, just x Tonnes... The values are fairly similar and the Loooooony Tonnnnnnnns seems to add lots of noise to me. —Sladen (talk) 15:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Upminster windmill

I see you've been expanding the article. Can you provide a reference for the last statement in the Steam engine section? Is it the Upminster Windmill book? Mjroots (talk) 11:56, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Hydrology and geology

HI, just saw your additions to the River Fowey article - good stuff, thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 23:50, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

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Hello Romfordian,

Assuming your Wikimedia Commons username is the same as your username here on the English Wikipedia, I think you were the original photographer and uploader of the two above files? Apologies if it wasn't you - feel free to correct me if so!

The above files are currently residing in the "Unidentified locations in London" category over on Commons. If at all possible, as part of a general clear-out of that category, I'd very much like to recategorise them down to at least town level. So, if you could confirm for example that those photos were taken in Romford, I could then recategorise them in a more specific category such as "Private gardens in Romford". Of course with it being a private garden we would certainly not need to be any more specific than that, but it would be very helpful if we could at least remove them from the top-level "Unidentified locations in London" category. Otherwise they'd probably stay in that unidentified cat indefinitely, given that there's no other apparent clues in the photos as to where they were taken. In any case, thanks very much in advance for any possible help. Best Regards, Rept0n1x (talk) 19:34, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I also forgot to mention, if you'd rather not say where these photos were taken, that's completely fine - please let us know if so. In that case, we simply tag them with the "Location withheld" template on Commons, that then would allow us to remove them from the "Unidentified locations in London" category. In any case, thanks for any possible reply, Regards Rept0n1x (talk) 20:22, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, when writing references that use cite templates, and a single page is the source of the information, please use the |page= parameter - the |pages= parameter is for where multiple pages from the source are used, as in |pages=12, 34 or |pages=12–14. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:50, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

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Hi DuncanHill. You're right!. Now corrected to "Mitchell 1994". Romfordian (talk) 12:50, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

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