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I see you did a good job of merging references in the article Scott Boman. It has been tagged for "Severe citation overkill." Please work your magic some more. Libertyguy (talk) 00:05, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion: Douglas Campbell (Michigan politician)

I notice you were one of the editors who participated in the original discussion on merging the Douglas Campbell (Michigan politician) article into Michigan gubernatorial election, 2006. The consensus was "The result was Not to merge into Michigan gubernatorial election, 2006."

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Since you have done some work on articles involving Michigan minor party politicians and the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative, I thought you might want to help improve the article on Gregory Creswell. More sources are needed from reliable sources.Libertyguy (talk) 11:34, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

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Looks great. I've linked it to the pre-existing commons category and I see someone else has already linked it to the articles in other languages and on Wikspecies. There's some photos of it that we can use on Flickr (uploaded by a Professor Malcolm Manners, who seems to know what he's talking about) and I might transfer some to Wikimedia Commons and then add them to the article myself if I have time (I'd do it now but Flickr2Commons is down right at the moment), but I thought I should let you know in case I don't get the chance.

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• I've been able to transfer the pictures over in case you find any you'd like to use. Hope that's OK! Blythwood (talk) 00:20, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Where are the pictures you transferred?--Redandready (talk) 15:37, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi - in the Wikimedia Commons category, it's here or linked from the Rosa abyssinica article in a link on the left of the page. Blythwood (talk) 16:02, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

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• Also editing as Kraanky.--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:53, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I don't have multiple accounts. I use a college network for web access. There may be many other editors at this IP. I don't know any of them. Please look more closely at my edit history and the other accounts on this IP. There must be some way to tell us apart. The investigation indicates we made similar edits on the same article. This is remarkable, but coincidental. I don't have a personal network. How can I prevent this from happening again? --Redandready (talk) 17:19, 4 November 2018 (UTC) After closely reviewing the edits that lead to the checkuser block, I wish to put forth more considerations. I have an edit history that goes back 11 years. I have enough experience to know that accounts like the single purpose accounts I am accused of creating would immediately be flagged as likely sock puppets and be investigated. So why would I risk years as an editor over an info box in one article? Please consider that I could have reverted the contested changes without creating sock puppets, if I had wanted to, since I had not come close to 3RR. I only reverted the contested edit once. I kept the controversy on the talk page and steered clear of edit warring. --Redandready (talk) 18:01, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Decline reason:

One could interpret the technical evidence as meat puppetry, which is recruiting people to help you in a content dispute. But it's difficult to accept that none of the accounts are related to each other. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:49, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

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Request reason:

If you lack the time to read all my points and weigh them carefully, please pass over this request over and leave it to someone who has the time. I'm not in a hurry, and I don't want to repost this request in vein. Sock puppetry involves two components: * Multiple accounts by one user. * Abuse of those accounts to violate Wikipedia policy. == The same IP == It appears too remarkable to be true that another person would be editing the same article from the same IP. This is less remarkable if the IP 198.111.57.100 belongs to a college in Michigan with 60,000 users. There are probably dozens of other editors on this network and I don't know who any of them are. == The same article == The article concerned the top news item in Michigan. It is about our Gubernatorial Election. Since the network I use is in Michigan this topic would be on the forefront of everyone’s mind. If the college population was representative of the population of the state, there would be about 800 people on this network who voted for that candidate. It is not a big stretch to consider the possibility that only one of those people with an attitude problem would create multiple accounts (on a network I already used) shortly before an election to push for his or her candidate. I have been using this network long before those accounts were created, and I have not created more accounts. ==Please look deeper== I know I only have one account. Proving this to others is a challenge. I have carefully looked over the edit history, and I hope a more careful analysis will persuade the administrator reading this that there was insufficient evidence to make this conclusion. The original justification for the checkuser investigation given as:"Both newly-created accounts created solely to edit war to add Libertarian candidate to the infobox of Michigan gubernatorial election, 2018 with both apparently holding a grudge against User:Nevermore27 in either edit summaries or the talk page. Mélencron 12:48, 2 November 2018 (UTC)" The implication is that I was on a lone mission to add this candidate to the info box, and that any other account sharing this objective was either created by me, or acting on my behalf. Not so. The point of view myself and the other blocked accounts expressed was already expressed by the user without an account at 24.127.238.196, and Criticalthinker. There was modest disagreement, by Tillerh11, but he prefaced his comment with, "There are no hard-and-fast rules for how to handle the infobox..." So this was a prevailing point of view in the discussion. So the suggestion that this view is so fringe that editors couldn't independently reach the same conclusion for the same reason is inconsistent with the edit history. The suggestion that I would find it necessary to create sockpuppets to make this edit isn't there. I made only one edit to the article in September, and one in October. I reverted only one edit of this article. That edit was in October. In my edit I directed Nevermore27 to the talk page. I then mentioned this on the talk page. Editors who were not involved in the investigation reverted edits as well. There is nothing in my action to suggest I was "holding a grudge against Nevermore27." I mention the fact that I in "both" meant the other accounts, then this only shows this sentiment to be shared by those (or that) editor(s), not I. Other accounts were rude to Nevermore27. Sock puppetry involves use of the accounts to violate Wikipedia policy. The other accounts didn't do anything that I couldn't do on my own. I could have reverted more edits without breaking policy, but chose not to. So the only policy being violated by them was bad manners. In my previous unblock request I said,

I have an edit history that goes back 11 years. I have enough experience to know that accounts like the single purpose accounts I am accused of creating would immediately be flagged as likely sock puppets and be investigated.

NinjaRobotPirate didn't comment on this point, but I ask you to think hard about this. Do you really think an editor with such a long history would throw it all away just to insult one editor? If so, why bother with sockpuppets? They just turn what would be a temporary block into a permanent one. ==Meat puppet or sock puppet== In declining my previous unblock request NinjaRobotPirate replied,

One could interpret the technical evidence as meat puppetry, which is recruiting people to help you in a content dispute. But it's difficult to accept that none of the accounts are related to each other.

He never indicates what the technical evidence for meat puppetry is. I asked NinjaRobotPirate

Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending_yourself_against_claims it says, "Sockpuppet inquiry pages are only about account and IP misuse—nothing else. If the evidence is not there, then the case will be closed without any adverse finding of any kind." If you concede the possibility of meat puppetry, then that makes it a separate matter. Why shouldn't the indefinite block for sock puppetry be removed?

I got no response. One of the accounts being investigated was Wolfsden3 the CheckUser investigation indicated a different IP address in the same area, but it was unclear what this meant. The network I use is in SE Michigan where most of the state's population lives 24.127.238.196. Since this election was the top issue of the minds of Michigan voters there would be nothing remarkable about another person in SE Michigan making an edit to that article. No evidence of meat puppetry was provided: Having a common opinion about an edit is not evidence of meet puppetry. See my comments under the "same article" heading above.None of my edits support the contention that I held a "grudge" against Nevermore27; only a good faith disagreement I thought should be resolved on the talk page. ==Closing== I believe this is a correct interpretation of all evidence: 1. My 11 year old account (redandready) made good faith edits and participated in a discussion on the articles talk page. This included reverting an edit by Nevermore27. 2. Wolfsden3 is a new account by a person I don't know. That editor agreed with me about the infobox. Other participants in the discussion also agreed. Given the timing of that account creation, it may be properly labeled single-purpose. but it isn't mine and there is no common IP address. There is no basis at all to conclude that this is a meat puppet or a sock puppet of my account. 3. Kruggsby and Kraanky are apparently the same person. Similarity in names support this. The fact that they have the Checkuser investigation shows they have the same IP also supports this. Unfortunately the same investigation shows they also have the same IP as I do. 4. The common IP seems to show they are my Sockpuppets, but they are not. What must have happened is that one person with an attitude created 2 accounts on the same network I use. A network I use along with 60,000 other people in Michigan. Given the mathematical analysis above, this amazing coincidence isn't so remarkable after all. So after 11 years of editing on that network someone comes along and starts IP socking in the same article as I. It took only one rogue editor on this network to cause me this headache.--Redandready (talk) 03:14, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Procedural decline only. This unblock request has been open for more than two weeks but has not proven sufficiently convincing for any reviewing administrator to take action. You are welcome to request a new block review if you substantially reword your request. Yamla (talk) 10:34, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I am repeating the same arguments here because Yamla gave no reason for declining the request: "Procedural decline only." The two weeks of elapsed time had nothing to do with the validity of the reasons for my request since I specifically asked that only an administrator who had time to read it over carefully should review it. Please refrain from procedural declines and simply leave it alone if you don’t have time to give the request due consideration. @Anachronist: I have taken time to read through all discussions pertaining to this SPI including discussions on the pages of other users involved in this SPI. I noticed this comment you made on December 6 here.

"Also, after reviewing the related, rational, and thoughtfully detailed unblock request at User talk:Redandready, I am convinced that Wolfsden and Redandready are not the same person, but there is still a behavioral issue to consider here with respect to WP:BATTLEGROUND."

I respectfully ask that you remove the sock puppet block and address my actual behavioral issues instead. If my political preference and attendance of Libertarian Party events amounts to a conflict of interest, I will disclose this involvement and refrain from discussions pertaining to the Libertarian Party of Michigan or its candidates. I apologize for my past participation in such edits and discussions, but I didn't know my participation was a COI and I noticed that at least one editor who was a self-identified Democrat also participated in the discussion on the 2018 Michigan gubernatorial election with no adverse consequences. ==This portion of my request had a procedural decline and was not read== If you lack the time to read all my points and weigh them carefully, please pass over this request over and leave it to someone who has the time. I'm not in a hurry, and I don't want to repost this request in vein. Sock puppetry involves two components: * Multiple accounts by one user. * Abuse of those accounts to violate Wikipedia policy. == The same IP == It appears too remarkable to be true that another person would be editing the same article from the same IP. This is less remarkable if the IP 198.111.57.100 belongs to a college in Michigan with 60,000 users. There are probably dozens of other editors on this network and I don't know who any of them are. == The same article == The article concerned the top news item in Michigan. It is about our Gubernatorial Election. Since the network I use is in Michigan this topic would be on the forefront of everyone’s mind. If the college population was representative of the population of the state, there would be about 800 people on this network who voted for that candidate. It is not a big stretch to consider the possibility that only one of those people with an attitude problem would create multiple accounts (on a network I already used) shortly before an election to push for his or her candidate. I have been using this network long before those accounts were created, and I have not created more accounts. ==Please look deeper== I know I only have one account. Proving this to others is a challenge. I have carefully looked over the edit history, and I hope a more careful analysis will persuade the administrator reading this that there was insufficient evidence to make this conclusion. The original justification for the checkuser investigation given as:"Both newly-created accounts created solely to edit war to add Libertarian candidate to the infobox of Michigan gubernatorial election, 2018 with both apparently holding a grudge against User:Nevermore27 in either edit summaries or the talk page. Mélencron 12:48, 2 November 2018 (UTC)" The implication is that I was on a lone mission to add this candidate to the info box, and that any other account sharing this objective was either created by me, or acting on my behalf. Not so. The point of view myself and the other blocked accounts expressed was already expressed by the user without an account at 24.127.238.196, and Criticalthinker. There was modest disagreement, by Tillerh11, but he prefaced his comment with, "There are no hard-and-fast rules for how to handle the infobox..." So this was a prevailing point of view in the discussion. So the suggestion that this view is so fringe that editors couldn't independently reach the same conclusion for the same reason is inconsistent with the edit history. The suggestion that I would find it necessary to create sockpuppets to make this edit isn't there. I made only one edit to the article in September, and one in October. I reverted only one edit of this article. That edit was in October. In my edit I directed Nevermore27 to the talk page. I then mentioned this on the talk page. Editors who were not involved in the investigation reverted edits as well. There is nothing in my action to suggest I was "holding a grudge against Nevermore27." I mention the fact that I in "both" meant the other accounts, then this only shows this sentiment to be shared by those (or that) editor(s), not I. Other accounts were rude to Nevermore27. Sock puppetry involves use of the accounts to violate Wikipedia policy. The other accounts didn't do anything that I couldn't do on my own. I could have reverted more edits without breaking policy, but chose not to. So the only policy being violated by them was bad manners. In my previous unblock request I said,

I have an edit history that goes back 11 years. I have enough experience to know that accounts like the single purpose accounts I am accused of creating would immediately be flagged as likely sock puppets and be investigated.

NinjaRobotPirate didn't comment on this point, but I ask you to think hard about this. Do you really think an editor with such a long history would throw it all away just to insult one editor? If so, why bother with sockpuppets? They just turn what would be a temporary block into a permanent one. ==Meat puppet or sock puppet== In declining my previous unblock request NinjaRobotPirate replied,

One could interpret the technical evidence as meat puppetry, which is recruiting people to help you in a content dispute. But it's difficult to accept that none of the accounts are related to each other.

He never indicates what the technical evidence for meat puppetry is. I asked NinjaRobotPirate

Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending_yourself_against_claims it says, "Sockpuppet inquiry pages are only about account and IP misuse—nothing else. If the evidence is not there, then the case will be closed without any adverse finding of any kind." If you concede the possibility of meat puppetry, then that makes it a separate matter. Why shouldn't the indefinite block for sock puppetry be removed?

I got no response. One of the accounts being investigated was Wolfsden3 the CheckUser investigation indicated a different IP address in the same area, but it was unclear what this meant. The network I use is in SE Michigan where most of the state's population lives 24.127.238.196. Since this election was the top issue of the minds of Michigan voters there would be nothing remarkable about another person in SE Michigan making an edit to that article. No evidence of meat puppetry was provided: Having a common opinion about an edit is not evidence of meet puppetry. See my comments under the "same article" heading above.None of my edits support the contention that I held a "grudge" against Nevermore27; only a good faith disagreement I thought should be resolved on the talk page. ==Closing== I believe this is a correct interpretation of all evidence: 1. My 11 year old account (redandready) made good faith edits and participated in a discussion on the articles talk page. This included reverting an edit by Nevermore27. 2. Wolfsden3 is a new account by a person I don't know. That editor agreed with me about the infobox. Other participants in the discussion also agreed. Given the timing of that account creation, it may be properly labeled single-purpose. but it isn't mine and there is no common IP address. There is no basis at all to conclude that this is a meat puppet or a sock puppet of my account. 3. Kruggsby and Kraanky are apparently the same person. Similarity in names support this. The fact that they have the Checkuser investigation shows they have the same IP also supports this. Unfortunately the same investigation shows they also have the same IP as I do. 4. The common IP seems to show they are my Sockpuppets, but they are not. What must have happened is that one person with an attitude created 2 accounts on the same network I use. A network I use along with 60,000 other people in Michigan. Given the mathematical analysis above, this amazing coincidence isn't so remarkable after all. So after 11 years of editing on that network someone comes along and starts IP socking in the same article as I. It took only one rogue editor on this network to cause me this headache.Redandready (talk) 16:02, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Confirmed sockpuppetry. Yamla (talk) 22:57, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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I require clarity before making further unblock requests. Investigation page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Redandready/Archive

@Berean Hunter: In the "Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments" you commented, "Wolfsden3 is Possible to Kruggsy, matching UA in same area but on a different ISP" What did "matching UA in same area" mean? I am asking about both the meaning of "UA" and "same area." Were Kruggsy and Wolfsden3 logged in close enough to be the same person at both places? See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Redandready/ArchiveRedandready (talk) 14:56, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

@Berean Hunter:, @Mélencron: and @Sir Sputnik:. The investigation page had a space under the Comments by other users heading that said, "Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below." why was I then blocked from commenting there? I am on a college network that is used by 60,000 other people. I don't have a personal network. How can I prevent this from happening again? See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Redandready/ArchiveRedandready (talk) 14:56, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

"matching UA in same area" sans technical jargon = it appears that the guy might have switched to another network locally. Meatpuppetry is also possible.

You were blocked previously for socking and continued with accounts and IP socking. Being convinced that you were culprit, I went ahead and blocked. You have the opportunity to defend yourself here.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 22:26, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Berean Hunter:

Thank you for responding, but I am still unclear on this. What do you mean by the same area? If you mean someplace in Southeast Michigan, this is weak since most of Michigan’s population lives in that region, and this article is about the most publicized topic in the state. What is the evidence for meatpuppetry related to Wolfsden3? The CheckUser investigation concluded that I had the same IP as Krugsy & Kranky, but not wolfsden3. I assume you don’t consider common opinion on an edit to be sufficient evidence of meatpuppetry.--Redandready (talk) 22:55, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

I am having trouble making sense of the second part of your response. I became aware of the both blocks at the same time. The first block was made a week after I had logged in or made an edit, and well before I logged in again. It sounds like you are saying I was blocked from the investigation page because of other people’s activity. But that wouldn’t make sense because it would mean you assumed I was guilty, when my guilt was the matter to be decided in the investigation. I will be defending myself here, but it is an uphill battle to reverse a ruling already made.--Redandready (talk) 22:55, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

I know blocks can be made at any time to prevent damage, but what damage did I cause? I have not made any destructive edits, and blocking me only stopped me from defending myself in the investigation. The only destructive edits were made by the holder(s) of other accounts which were erroneously identified as my sockpuppets.--Redandready (talk) 22:55, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

• You were behind the camera in these shots right? I ask because sometimes folks who are the subjects get confused about licensing and claim them as theirs when someone else actually took the shots.
  • File:Connerly_and_Boman.JPG
  • File:Barr_and_Boman.jpg
  • File:Ron_and_Scotty.jpg
  • File:Bill_Gelineau.jpg
  • File:Johnson_Boman_Gray.jpg
  • File:BillWeldandScottyBoman.jpg
  • File:Boman_Billboard.jpg
     — Berean Hunter (talk) 06:31, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Right. I actually took the shots.--Redandready (talk) 16:08, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

You have an apparent conflict of interest when it comes to editing about Scott Boman. Those shots span over time and not a single event. You know him and have an apparent working relationship with him. In your unblock request, you indicate 198.111.57.100 as "It appears too remarkable to be true that another person would be editing the same article from the same IP. This is less remarkable if the IP 198.111.57.100 belongs to a college in Michigan with 60,000 users. There are probably dozens of other editors on this network and I don't know who any of them are." It belongs to Macomb Community College where, according to his article, Scott Boman works as a professor. How do you think your statement theorizing the statistical improbability looks to us now? Or your statement, "There may be many other editors at this IP. I don't know any of them"?

This is an interesting composite uploaded by Libertyguy. It indicates that he also knows Scott Boman and has a conflict of interest. Who else would have access to those photos taken circa 1982? He showed up on 2018 Michigan gubernatorial election to back you guys up with a revert although he had never edited that article before and tried to sound impartial with "I reviewed the history and this discussion, and Nevermore27 is alone on this. When one editor keeps pushing against the consensus by constantly performing the same reverted edit, it is disruptive editing. Please stop it." Now, you are into statistical odds...what would be the odds that editors affiliated with the Libertarian party...not just Libertarian voters but people holding positions in Michigan Libertarian organizations (or people closely associated with the office holders) would converge on that article at the same time without some form of communication having occurred to set it in motion? I think that they are really, really small.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 13:28, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

I have seen Boman at political events but we haven’t crossed paths on campus. I am a Libertarian but I don’t have a working relationship with him. I took a few pictures. My edits are in good faith and I don’t do them as a favor to anyone.

I only know libertyguy from Wikipedia.  I don’t talk to people in real life about this private hobby of mine. I don’t feel the desire to speculate about another editor, but I think your approach to odds is all wrong. I already addressed this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redandready#The_same_article The timing was right before the election. So lots of people would be looking at it, and the most visible item would be the pictures at the top.--Redandready (talk) 03:12, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

July 2019

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Redandready where I've added the latest sock, Wizzybit, a sleeper that went active in January. Despite the garbage written above about all these other people using your network, you and that account are the only ones using your static IP address. He edits about Boman and uploaded this photo of him.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 17:09, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Please stop pinging me

I'm not personally involved in why you got blocked nor am I relevant to your requests for review in the same, so if you intend to appeal again, please don't link to me. Nevermore27 (talk) 03:21, 31 July 2019 (UTC)