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Monmouthshire & Brecon Canal

Thanks for re-assessing this article. Since you wrote on the project page that it was almost a B-class, have you got any hints at what needs improving in order to make it B-class, please? Bob1960evens (talk) 18:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

The article is "good" but it lacks in-line citations in some places (see WP:VERIFY), for example the "Llanhiddel Railway" and the "Sirhowy Tramroad" sections don't have any. These are relatively minor changes, so it can be reclassed as B without too much work. C-class is a new classification, I would have given it a B otherwise.Pyrotec (talk) 14:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
I have found references for the Sirhowy Tramroad, but nothing sensible for the Llanhiddel Railway. Both sections were there before I started. As with much of the original article, they did not seem to follow much (chronological) order, and I am still not sure about some of it. I guess I need a book of the tramways, but don't tend to buy that sort of stuff. Bob1960evens (talk) 20:44, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bob, Yes, Sirhowy, is a problem for me as well.
  • Its mentioned in Awdry, Christopher (1990). Encyclopaedia of British Railway Companies. Sparkford: Patrick Stephens Ltd. ISBN 1-8526-0049-7. OCLC 19514063. CN 8983., incorporated 26 June 1802, opened 1805 - ironworks to Canal, converted to Railway 1860.
  • Its mentioned in Russell, Ronald (1971). "Lost Canals of England and Wales who refers to Baxter.
  • I have a copy of Baxter, Bertram (1966). Stone Blocks and Iron Rails (Tramroads) (1st ed.). Newton Abbot: David & Charles.

,but it was bound with pages 221 to 237 missing; and guess where the detailed gazette covering Sirhowy (it actually covers Camathenshire, Pembrokeshire and the whole of Scotland) comes??. But I've tracked another copy down. (And reserved it)

However what is in the article does not relate to Awdry, Russell, or Baxter.Pyrotec (talk) 21:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I have tracked down a book called The Canals of the Welsh Valleys and their Tramroads, and have ordered a copy, so I am hoping that might help. Bob1960evens (talk) 14:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I got the book. No mention of Llanhiddel tramway in the details of 21 tramways connected with the Monmouthshire canal. Outrams comments are attributed to the Beaufort Tramway, which does not go to Argoed (The Sirhowey does). I am tempted to just delete that section, and add a more general section on tramways. Bob1960evens (talk) 16:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bob, Baxter mentions the Llanhilleth tramway from Crumlin Bridge to Llanhilleth and Cwm Cyffin - owner Llanhilleth Coal co. (also gives date and OS sheet SO20SW. Llanhilleth, and Llanhilleth Colliery are listed in the RCH Handbook of railway stations 1904. I think we may have a typo. The railway magazine, "BackTrack" [1] has two articles on the Monmouthshire Railway & Canal Company. Part one in Backtrack Vol 22, No. 5 (May 2008) pp 302-310 and Part 2: Vol 22, No. 6 (June 2008) pp 368-378. Part 2 has all the references and its "further reading" lists 25 books. I've started reading part 1 today, but there is a lot of reading to do.Pyrotec (talk) 18:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Pyrotec, I have also found the Llanhilleth, dates 1799-1918, (oops - should be 1819), Engineer unknown. The Cwm Cyffin tramway is shown on the 1842 map, and Llanhilleth station on the 1940 map. The Welsh spelling of the name is Llanhiledd, (same pronunciation) so we just have a transposition of the consonants, I think. Bob1960evens (talk) 21:04, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Gunpowder

Just to give you a heads-up, I double-checked some of MARVEL's references, namely Berthelot & Duval, Sarton, and Hünke, and they do not support the text for which they are cited. JFD (talk) 20:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Greater Glasgow

do you think that infobox in the article is approapriate, i was thinking there should be one but i dont think a copy of the glasgow city infobox is good. something like the Greater Manchester infobox would be better?? and i was wondering if you were interested in starting a wikiproject Greater Glasgow/GlasgowAndrew22k (talk) 23:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

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Greater Glasgow

i have submitted a proposal for the wikiproject Greater Glasgow here and if you are interested please add your name to the support section and ask anyone else you might know who would be interested.Andrew22k (talk) 18:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I appreciate the work you have recently carried out to Ince and Elton railway station,Your book reference author is unrecognized by Wikipedia, for greater integrity, you may wish to start this article, or provide a link to the books website etc...

You then tagged the History article, as an expansion topic. There is fairly little, if anything you can do now, particularly as this is just a standard railway station- the only notable thing about it is the sporadic service. If there was more to say, I am sure you would have written it from the book you reference.

Another quick note, I am about to add updated photos to Stanlow and Thornton railway station, to enhance the recently revised article. It would be good if you could use the above book and update the opening date, as well as whatever historic information you are aware of.

Thanks.

S. Thomson 14:11, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Source Ince/Elton

Was referring that author was unknown, hence appearing in red in references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stethomson90 (talkcontribs) 14:29, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

re your edits to the Railway gun page

Hi, you seem to have an interest in the railway guns in WWII.. I've added an image of the 18 inch how Boche Buster.. I got the location & date from the IWM site, and they give the photo location as "Bourne Park Tunnel, at Bishopsbourne in Kent". Appears to be a different line to the one mentioned in the article, "Elham Valley Railway, between Bridge and Lyminge". Please correct the image details and let me know if they're wrong, the IWM isn't infallible.. regards. Rod Rcbutcher (talk) 13:50, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I had another look at the map and Bishopsbourne would be on the old railway between Bridge and Lyminge if it still existed I think.. Rcbutcher (talk) 13:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

River Parrett

Hi, Pyrotec, me again. I noticed you recently re-assessed the River Parrett article. I have added a big section on the navigation, plus a photo, and wondered if you could have a quick look to see if that gets it up to a B-class, and if not, what is required? Thanks (hopefully!) Bob1960evens (talk) 18:29, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Bob, Its now about B class, but I'll do a bit of cleaning up. I raised it from Start class to C class, rather than B-class, because it was rather short of in-line citations & references. I'll add a bit more. It has the makings of a GA article.Pyrotec (talk) 08:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Template:RailGauge

Template:RailGauge. Template Talk:RailGauge. If you check User talk:Slambo you'll see that I had already requested him to make the correction. Thanks for the sugestion anyway. Peter Horn 21:38, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Geology of Somerset

Thanks for all your help with the references etc for the Geology of Somerset article. Hopefuly these will satisfy the GA reviewer.— Rod talk 21:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

DM, DMC or DMc ?

This edit was fine. What about the other eight articles? — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 06:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. All done.Pyrotec (talk) 10:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

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The Geography Barnstar

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for your contributions to all sorts of articles around England and particularly those in SomersetRod talk 18:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


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Carnoustie assessment scale

Thanks for the pointers for improving Carnoustie's Wikipedia page. I will take them on board and try to raise its quality to GA rating. Do you think more photos would improve the page? Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 09:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I've knocked the article around a bit since then and improved the referencing. Do you think it merits a higher rating yet? Thanks for all the help. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 21:12, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Its good, certainly B class, so I've changed it from C to B class. Note that the in-line citations are inconsistently placed: some are inside that comma / full stop and some are outside, that needs to be made consistent. I see that you have started the GA process - best of luck. Pyrotec (talk) 09:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Having had a second look, the second half your introduction (or lede as it is sometimes known) is all one sentence paragraphs. Some (all?) GA reviewers will not accept that, so they need combining in a logical manner. Also, it might be worthwhile reading Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements. Pyrotec (talk) 09:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Sankey Canal article

Hi, I wonder if you could point me in the right direction. I found the Sankey Canal article, with two tags, one for cleanup, the other for refs. I've had a go at improving some of the sentence structure and grammer, but is there any way on knowing why the tag was put on? It is not listed in the cleanup list for Feb 2007. And who decides when it is cleaned up enough? I've also added some refs, but will need quite a few more before that tag can be removed, I think. Thanks. Bob1960evens (talk) 20:48, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Bob, Anyone can add or remove these tags; most articles are on various editor's "watch lists" so these actions are seen and if considered controversial, can be changed, challenged, conversations start, edit wars start, etc. However, if they don't appear to controversial, they tend to be left in place. Hopefully someone then fixes the problem and the tag is removed. From the history section it appears that I added the {unreferenced} flag on 24 February 2007. As a way forward, I'll reclassify it from Start-class to C-class, remove the {clean up} tag and change the {unref} tag to {refimprove}. Pyrotec (talk) 08:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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Netley Abbey

Hi. Just a note to say thank you for reviewing and passing Netley Abbey for Good Article status - I thrilled, it's my first GA. Netley Abbey was my introduction to Wikipedia, I came across the article by chance and the then mess annoyed me so I had to join the project so I could fix it. It's taken me nearly two years... I'm going to continue adding cites to the article to increase its usefulness per your suggestions. Soph (talk) 18:32, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Netley Abbey was my first GAR, so I'm still trying to work out what needed to be done and where. Pyrotec (talk) 18:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Blackdown Hills

Hi, you are quick off the mark with GAR on the Blackdown Hills article & spotting my big ooops in the references - which I've now fixed. I really must check my final edits before nomination more carefully. Thanks again.— Rod talk 14:40, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry to get in the way! I'm done now. almost-instinct 15:27, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions. Would you have a few minutes to take another look, as I believe all issues have been addressed, with the possible exception of the singular v plural discussion.— Rod talk 21:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, If Blackdown Hills passes GAR, I'm going to nominate "Geography of Somerset" for a Featured Topic which includes many articles you have contributed to - see User:Rodw/Sandbox/GTnomination - would you have any objections?— Rod talk 22:05, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Sorry of the delay in replying. Thanks, No objections. Pyrotec (talk) 18:21, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Niagara Falls Suspension Bridge Peer Review

Hi, Pyrotec. Thank you for assessing the article (with regards to WikiProject Trains) and your comments. The article has a peer review going on at Wikipedia:Peer review/Niagara Falls Suspension Bridge/archive1. There are a couple of comments, and Dabomb87 is kindly copyediting the article. I would appreciate your opinions if you have the time to spare. Thank you again. Jappalang (talk) 11:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)