User talk:Potapych/Archive 2/

Re: EPAC season maps

Sorry, I forgot about that message, and to be honest I really didn't know much about it. Sorry it took so long for you to get a response. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Infobox Hurricane Small and Safari

Everything looks all right in the current version of Safari (3.1.2), so I guess everything is fixed there. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 02:10, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Season list

I completely agree. Most people are used to the list article, so it should be very prominent - as you said right near the lede. I don't know the template, so you could change it back. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: MFR data

I really can't figure out that Meteo-France data. I'd guess it would be m/s. MF has the storm type in the data, which goes only up to 4, and 4 is a tropical cyclone (64+ kts). Not sure though. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

So are you thinking the values are in m/s as well as 10-min sustained? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Ugh, I wish I could help more. I don't write in the SHEM too much, and for precisely this reason of difficulties in data. My only thought would be to compare the MF data to what Gary Padgett has - he is a tropical cyclone writer and is reliable enough for us to use (NOAA uses his research). He has reports back to late 1997, but I don't know how much they would help. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

We don't really have anyone who has worked significantly on SHEM articles. When you say the values seem a bit too high, is that in 10-min? 1-min? Compared to JTWC? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

For some reason I get a vibe that the site used operational data, and perhaps the pressure was revised in post-analysis. The site doesn't look official at all. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

So does the WMO page confirm the wind speed is in 10-min and in m/s? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of 1998–99 Australian region cyclone season

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RSMC Nadi + Tropical Disturbances

I thought this might help you i saw it in the Austrlain/Spac Tropical cyclone operational plan a few nights ago about wat a Tropical Disturbance is defined as by Nadi

A Tropical Disturbance is a nonfrontal system of synoptic scale originating over the tropics with persistent enhanced convection and/or some indications of cyclonic wind circulation. Where as a Tropical Depression is defined as a tropical disturbance with a clearly defined cyclonic wind circulation in which the central position can be estimated, and the maximum 10minute average wind speed is less than 34 knots (63 km per hour ie gale force) near the centre. There may be gale force or stronger winds in one or more quadrants but not near the centre.

Hope This helps Jason Rees (talk) 02:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Season articles

I'm really not sure. I would guess they would have to be done manually. I'm pretty brain-dead when it comes to bots, but I don't think there would be an easy way. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:38, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: EPAC

The NHC archives for EPAC go back to 1988, and the first depression in the season was called TD 1E. The 1986 MWR called the second depression TD 2, without the suffix, and I should note that was the EPHC, not the NHC. So I'd guess the letter was added when the NHC took over the EPAC. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:05, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd guess the CPHC wasn't accurate about that. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it'd be best to ask our resident hurricane expert, User:thegreatdr, as he is an actual meteorologist. The reason I bring him up is because he makes those tropical cyclone rainfall maps, and he has a report on ]http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/tropical/rain//td2e1986.html TD 2E from 1986]. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Speel Check

I use firefox which does have Spell Check.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 13:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Well then why don't you use it? –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 14:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

i do.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 17:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but

Thank you for your assistance, but, Hurricanehink fixed the timeline. I don't know why it works that way anyway; I borrowed the parameters from 2006. Thanks, again. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 06:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Order of hatnotes

I realize that, and it does add whitespace as a side effect. However, we've gotten yelled at for this in recent FACs, as screen readers begin reading the infobox when ideally they should be reading the hatnote first. (By reading the hatnote, a blind user can hear that there is an article that deals with that particular storm in more detail, so he has the chance to go read it instead of having to hear the infobox and then realizing that he didn't have to hear all of that.) Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

And also on Sandy's talk page when I asked for clarification. The guideline page is rather clear that {{main}}, {{seealso}} and all variants of hatnotes should go before cleanup templates, then infoboxes or images, then the main text of the section. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

No, that rule has been there since forever, we just pretty much didn't care about it. The left-and-right thing is for images, which there's no point in doing (as then, having an image underneath a level-3 headline would trigger other accessibility checks, and more headaches.) You can also raise the issue at Wikipedia talk:Accessibility and see what they say there. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:46, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox hurricane season‎;

Hi Potapych

Is there a way to add Tropical Disturbances and Severe Tropical Cyclones to the infobox without it causing "formatting issues". Jason Rees (talk) 20:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi - we need to add a seprate paramater for Tropical Disturbance. As both RSMC's Nadi and La Reunion use disturbances. Jason Rees (talk) 20:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou Jason Rees (talk) 20:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah i would agree but i think i will take it season by season Jason Rees (talk) 22:24, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Can you archive this?

I actually saw that earlier and wonder how I would Webcite that. I tried WebCiting it earlier, but then the site wouldn't load. I tried again just now; if it works it will appear here. The report is large (18.9 MB), and the IMD server is very slow (~5 KB/sec) so it may take a long time. -- RattleMan 21:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Signatures

I saw your edit summary to this edit, and I was wondering which signatures in particular you find disruptive to the conversation. Cheers, –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 23:15, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Australian Tropical Cyclone Intensity Scale

Hi Potapych - I had a little play around with the Template:South Pacific ocean Tropical Cyclone Intensity Scale correcting the values that were a bit off using the source you cited on the WPTC main page. anyway can you take a look at it and let me know if a few values are off before i put it on to the Australian one? Thanks Jason Rees (talk) 00:02, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Tico (1983)

Why should the importance be low. it caused the heaviest rainfall in the Untied States by an EPAC storm and serve damage it should be high. Leave Message ,Yellow Evan home ,Sandbox Happy Veterans day 15:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Then it should be MId. Leave Message ,Yellow Evan home ,Sandbox Happy Veterans day 15:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox hurricane season

You seem to me making several substantial edits to this template. If it's not too much of a bother, would you mind discussing them on talk pages prior to implementing them? Thanks, –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 03:21, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but only after you made the changes. For a template that is used on hundreds of pages, it is generally discouraged to make substantial edits without prior discussion. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 03:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, please remember to use edit summaries. Thank you. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 00:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

1970 hurricane season

I tried to use numbers assigned in real-time in the database I have online. I have never thought we should use HURRICANE TEN in the wikipedia articles, because NHC never numbered them either in real-time or after the fact. I feel differently about TD numbers, but they're tricky in the 1970s and 1980s, since they were reassigned after the fact. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Cyclone Tracy

I've got a reply from the BoM. See the reply at Talk:Cyclone Tracy#Info box. Bidgee (talk) 13:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Season infoboxes

I'm not sure what you mean. I checked the 1993 AHS (one of the ones I edited), and I didn't see any italics in the coding. The image description was italicized, is that what you mean? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:05, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, ok. I didn't realize you meant the current season (which I rarely edit, BTW). Yea, I changed it to remove the italics from Ike. I agree it's difficult to read. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

PAGASA of 2003

• PAGASA TD FALCON

All advisories are tropical depressions

• 14.3 N/116.7E-TD
• 15.0N/114.9E-TD
• PAGASA TD Ineng
• 11.0N/129.0E-TD
• 11.1N/128.7E-TD
• 11.5N/128.0E-TD
• 11.8N/126.0E-Tropical Disturbance
• 13.5N/126.0E
• PAGASA TS Lakay
• 20.4N/121.0E-TD
• 19.8N/123.0E-TD
• 20.0N/122.0E -TD
• 20.4N/121.5E-TD
• 20.8N/120.7E-TD
• 19.5N/118.2E-TD
• 19.7N/118.0E-TD
• 19.9N/118.1E-Tropical Storm (TS)
• 20.3N/118.2E-TS
• 20.5N/118.2E-TS
• 22.3N/117.5E-TS (Final)
• PAGASA TD quiel
• 12.5N/133.4E-TD
• 12.8N/133.3E-TD
• 13.3N/132.8E-TD
• 13.7N/130.6E-TD
• 14.3N/129.4E-TD
• 15.5N/128.3E-TD
• 15.8N/127.7E-TD
• 16.6N/126.6E-TD
• 17.2N/125.5E-TD
• 17.1N/121.6E-TD
• 17.4N/120.8E-TD
• 17.0N/120.0E-TD
• 17.2N/119.0E-TD
• 17.6N/118.3E-TD
• 18.3N/117.3E -Final

Can you do these, I already asked Ramisses but he seems to be away. --Ir[[User talk:Irmela|me]]la 19:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok thanks.--Irmela 20:05, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Track map request

Can you update the map for Hurricane Omar (2008) using the data below?

15.2N/69.6W-Tropical Depression
14.8N/69.8W-TD
14.5N/69.6W-TD
14.3N/69.4W-Tropical Storm
14.1N/69.1W-TS
13.9N/68.8W-TS
14.0N/68.5W-Category 1
14.4N/68.0W-1
14.9N/67.5W-1
15.5N/66.6W-1
16.7N/65.2W-Category 2
18.2N/63.9W-Category 4
19.6N/62.1W-Category 2
21.1N/60.4W-Category 1
22.8N/58.8W-1
25.1N/57.1W-1
27.9N/55.7W-1
30.1N/54.4W-1
31.3N/53.2W-Tropical Storm
32.4N/52.1W-TS
33.0N/51.3W-TS
33.5N/50.5W-TS
34.0N/49.7W-TS
34.5N/49.0W-Low (Tropical Depression)
35.1N/48.3W-Low
35.7N/47.5W-Low
36.4N/46.8W-Low
37.0N/46.2W-Low
37.6N/45.3W-Low
37.9N/44.3W-Low
38.3N/43.3W-Low

This information is from the running best track (which has been updated with what is most likely the final track for Omar). Thanks, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Those are all 6 hour points, the category 2-4-2 is actually there, very rapid strengthening and weakening. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks great, thanks! Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

There are a couple for 1980 that are in need of maps, points are below :)

Tropical Depression One

25.0N/90.0W-Tropical Depression
25.2N/90.4W-TD
25.4N/90.9W-TD
25.7N/91.2W-TD
26.0N/91.8W-TD
26.2N/92.1W-TD
26.4N/92.7W-TD
26.8N/93.0W-TD
27.0N/93.5W-TD
27.4N/94.0W-TD
27.8N/94.5W-TD
28.0N/94.9W-TD
28.5N/95.2W-TD
29.0N/95.7W-TD
29.5N/95.7W-TD
30.0N/95.5W-TD
30.5N/95.0W-Low

Tropical Depression Four

15.0N/21.0W-Tropical Depression
15.2N/22.5W-TD
15.8N/24.2W-TD
16.7N/25.9W-TD
17.8N/27.1W-TD
18.8N/28.7W-TD
20.0N/30.0W-TD
21.0N/31.7W-TD
22.0N/33.0W-TD
23.2N/34.3W-TD
24.8N/35.9W-TD
27.3N/37.2W-TD
30.0N/36.6W-TD
32.1N/34.4W-TD
33.8N/31.9W-TD
35.2N/29.0W-TD
36.7N/26.2W-TD

Tropical Depression Six

15.9N/31.6W-Tropical Depression
15.8N/34.0W-TD
15.7N/35.3W-TD
15.6N/36.9W-TD
15.5N/38.3W-TD
15.4N/39.8W-TD
15.4N/41.0W-TD
15.3N/43.0W-TD
15.4N/44.9W-TD
15.8N/46.8W-TD
16.0N/48.8W-TD
16.7N/50.8W-TD
17.8N/52.7W-TD
19.0N/54.3W-TD
20.5N/56.0W-TD
22.0N/58.0W-TD
22.5N/60.0W-TD

Tropical Depression Fourteen

13.0N/80.0W-Tropical Depression
13.4N/80.7W-TD
14.0N/81.2W-TD
14.4N/81.9W-TD
15.0N/82.4W-TD
15.9N/83.0W-TD
16.4N/83.5W-TD
17.1N/83.8W-TD
18.0N/83.9W-TD
18.8N/83.8W-TD
19.4N/83.6W-TD
20.0N/83.3W-TD
20.7N/83.0W-TD
21.1N/82.9W-TD
21.7N/82.8W-TD
22.2N/82.7W-TD
22.9N/82.8W-TD
23.9N/82.9W-TD
24.4N/83.0W-TD
25.2N/83.2W-TD
26.0N/83.5W-TD
27.2N/83.2W-Low
(Tropical Depression) 28.0N/83.0W-Low
29.0N/82.0W-Low
30.0N/81.0W-Extratropical Depression

Thanks in advance, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 04:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Georgia

Yes it is :) --Irmela 19:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Best track

Yea, I think would be a good idea. I did email the agency, and they confirmed all of the winds of the best track were in 1-min, but they might change it to 10-min (since they said on the FAQ that all of the data should be in 10-min). That reminds me - did you assume that data was 1-min or 10-min? Aren't SHEM track maps usually 10-min? We can probably go ahead and make some changes, but we should do a bit of thinking first. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, the site says the data should be in 10-min, in which case all of the data would change. Apparently, we use JTWC for the track maps, meaning 1-min and it's unofficial. Given that (and I know that someone in the project webcited the 1-min winds), I think it'd be fine to go ahead. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Non-developing databases

The version I threw on the season talk pages were straight from NHC, but they were not sure of the quality of the information. The version on the HPC page has had some quality control. That's what I mean. Thegreatdr (talk) 12:13, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

There were some notable changes with the Atlantic systems, such as with TD8 of 1981, TD1 of 1979, TD12 of 1975, TD8 of 1971, and TD32 of 1969 (there are other changes as well.) Their former tracks took them to the coast, and ended. Most of the changes I made were to include/correct ROCI information for systems within the database for use within the TC rainfall climo, and extend their tracks inland (if possible.) For the years of 1975-1980, I have not yet had a chance to check the map archives either at NHC or the main NOAA library in Maryland to find all the operational TD numbers. There are cases where the operational numbers were not included within the Atlantic reanalysis spreadsheet, so additional searching is required. The operational numbering should lie in the name of the 1968-current "name" slot, if known. Most of the "UNNAMED" TDs were systems they either thought were TDs after the fact (through 1980) or systems whose phase (tropical/subtropical/extratropical) was unclear (1981-1987). The list does not extend past 1987, because all the TDs are already in ATCF or written up as articles online, either individually, or in the Atlantic systems articles from 1989 through 2002. As far as I know, few operational TDs were eliminated after the fact, with none eliminated from 1984 onward. Keep in mind NHC has not focused on maintaining a TD database over the years, which is why there are multiple databases/numbering systems for TDs of years prior to 1988. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I used TPC surface analyses to extend the track. If you want, you can use their online surface analysis archive as the source, if you're uncomfortable using the HPC track. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Nabi (2005) track

Can you update the track for Typhoon Nabi in 2005? BT Data link Thanks, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 22:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Track Map program query

Hi, I've noticed that you've been using the track map program made by Jdorje. I've been trying to figure out how to download it and get it up and running but I can't figure out how to do it all. Since you have it, you likely know how to do all of that so I'd greatly appreciate if you could tell me how I can download the necessary programs for it, where to get them, and how to start using it. Thanks, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:14, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Tracy

Heh, I think you finally got it. Good job noting that the best track was 10-min, and not 1-min. I think it's right. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Infobox Hurricane

Is their a way you could add in a paramater for Tropical Depressions, that exceed 35 knots but are not upgraded to Cyclones in RSMC Nadis AoR? Thanks Jason Rees (talk) 00:03, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

South Atlantic Track Map request

For the South Atlantic tropical cyclone article, a track map of the 2006 storm would be very helpful and informative in giving the location of the storm. The tracking points can be found in Gary Padgetts February 2006 TC summary located here. Thanks, Cyclonebiskit 19:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Marie picture

Could you give me a reason for the using Visible Marie picture? HurricaneSpin (talk) 03:11, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Typhoon Olive (1952)

Can you upload a track map for this typhoon? I recently furnished the article. Thanks! CVW (Talk) 03:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

SSHS

Hi, I've noticed you've been reverting numerous edits on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale article. It would be advisable to read through WP:OWN and WP:3RR. Cheers, 14:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Hurricane Daniel (2006)

Hey, quick question. Could you possibly include the remnant low positions for Daniel 06, as provided by the CPHC? Thanks if you can. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, got it. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:41, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Faxai 2007 Track map update

Can you update Faxai's track with data from the JMA? If I remember correctly, you said that the tracks are smoothed out like the JTWC/NHC but for this storm, the RSMC track is needed. Concerning the issue with the commons upload, just chance the information after you upload it. Thanks, Cyclonebiskit 03:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

18.8N 134.4E - Tropical Depression
20.0N 133.4E - TD
21.4N 132.6E - TD
23.0N 131.7E - Tropical Storm
23.9N 131.2E - TS
25.0N 131.7E - TS
27.1N 133.9E - TS
29.3N 136.0E - TS
33.4N 139.6E - TS
35.6N 142.2E - Extratropical Storm
38.2N 146.2E - EX
39.9N 149.3E - EX
40.5N 152.6E - EX
41.1N 157.0E - EX
42.8N 162.9E - EX

Re: Infobox Hurricane

Like this? It didn't seem to fix the problem, which is odd. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 18:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried sticking in a couple nbsp;, to see if that helps? –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 18:45, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Sorry I wasn't able to help more, though I'll keep eye out for a solution. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 18:55, 19 March 2009 (UTC)