Oreen.yousuf
February 2023 edit
Hello, I'm JCMLuis. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Geʽez script have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. luis 💬 14:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi JCMLuis, sorry about that. I'm getting used to editing on Wikipedia. I played around in the Sandbox and checked my changes before publishing the final edit. I think it looks good now and adds new information. Thank you. Oreen.yousuf (talk) 14:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Geʽez script. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. luis 💬 14:46, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- Why was the most recent edit removed? I understand that the earlier ones didn't appear good, but again, that was because I'm learning how to edit properly. I went to the sandbox like you suggested and made sure the latest edit appeared correct in format before publishing it. Oreen.yousuf (talk) 14:50, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- Your edits have been restored. It was from a bad assumption, simply because I did not know what an abudgida is. My bad. luis 💬 15:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks Oreen.yousuf (talk) 15:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- Your edits have been restored. It was from a bad assumption, simply because I did not know what an abudgida is. My bad. luis 💬 15:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
May 2024 edit
Hello, I'm Donald Albury. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Liberia, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Donald Albury 00:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I only added a locale name of the country. You can find this at: https://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/nqo/T_Africa/ Oreen.yousuf (talk) 00:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- local
- Oreen.yousuf (talk) 00:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- You didn't provide a citation to any source when you added that entry. The source you list in your reply above appears to be a user-generated source, which is not acceptable as a source in Wikipeida. Moreover, N'Ko is not the only language besides English spoken in Liberia. Why should only the name for Liberia in N'Ko be added to the infobox? While it might be worth adding a footnote or section to the article listing the names for the country in all the languages spoken there, such a list does not seem appropriate in the infobox, and all entries in such a list would have to be reliably sourced. Donald Albury 16:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- The source I gave is from Unicode's Common Locale Data Repository (CLDR), which has a rigorous voting process by both the CLDR subcommittee and native speakers. The reason I only put N'Ko is because I could not, at the time, find other locale data for the other Liberian languages (however I just found the same for Vai, which I would like to include). The vetting process for CLDR data is rigorous because it is used for localization software for product distributions. Also, several other countries' pages have different languages' names for the country in the infobox Oreen.yousuf (talk) 17:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest starting a discussion on the article talk page. If we can verify the names in various languages, there is the question of if and how to present it in the article. I am opposed to including a list of names for the country in several languages in the infobox. As I suggested above, a section or a footnote might be appropriate for presenting the information, but I would like to see what other editors think of it. Donald Albury 20:19, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- But as I said, there are already many country articles displaying the country's name in different languages. Why should it be different for Liberia?
- The name of Liberia in the Vai language is ꕞꔤꔫꕩ. You can see how this word redirects to the English article for Liberia here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_Vai-language_terms
- And the N'Ko word can be verified either by the N'Ko Wikipedia: https://nqo.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DF%9F%DF%8C%DF%93%DF%8B%DF%99%DF%8C%DF%A6%DF%8A%DF%AB , or on this Yale website: https://web.library.yale.edu/notes-cataloging-nko-script Oreen.yousuf (talk) 11:45, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- First, no Wikipedia in any language may be used as a source in the English Wikipedia. The guideline at WP:USERG states that Wikipedias are not reliable sources. My advice to you is to make your arguments on the article talk page, which is where all discussions on article content should take place, so that other editors can note and participate. Donald Albury 18:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- You can see the same here: https://localizely.com/locale-code/vai-Vaii-LR/
- And what of the Yale site I linked?
- Also, these languages are almost nonexistent on the internet. Governments don't support their proliferation. The work done on the Vai and N'Ko Wikipedias are from dedicated activists of the language/script. Oreen.yousuf (talk) 18:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also, again, why do other countries have different languages' words for the country but Liberia can't? France has it in French. Does this mean an article can only have the native language if it's official? But then there's Nigeria who has 3 languages. But they are "national languages". Is this the criteria? But then there's Uganda, which has 2 other non-official non-national languages that have their word for the country on the article. Oreen.yousuf (talk) 18:22, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- First, no Wikipedia in any language may be used as a source in the English Wikipedia. The guideline at WP:USERG states that Wikipedias are not reliable sources. My advice to you is to make your arguments on the article talk page, which is where all discussions on article content should take place, so that other editors can note and participate. Donald Albury 18:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest starting a discussion on the article talk page. If we can verify the names in various languages, there is the question of if and how to present it in the article. I am opposed to including a list of names for the country in several languages in the infobox. As I suggested above, a section or a footnote might be appropriate for presenting the information, but I would like to see what other editors think of it. Donald Albury 20:19, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- The source I gave is from Unicode's Common Locale Data Repository (CLDR), which has a rigorous voting process by both the CLDR subcommittee and native speakers. The reason I only put N'Ko is because I could not, at the time, find other locale data for the other Liberian languages (however I just found the same for Vai, which I would like to include). The vetting process for CLDR data is rigorous because it is used for localization software for product distributions. Also, several other countries' pages have different languages' names for the country in the infobox Oreen.yousuf (talk) 17:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- You didn't provide a citation to any source when you added that entry. The source you list in your reply above appears to be a user-generated source, which is not acceptable as a source in Wikipeida. Moreover, N'Ko is not the only language besides English spoken in Liberia. Why should only the name for Liberia in N'Ko be added to the infobox? While it might be worth adding a footnote or section to the article listing the names for the country in all the languages spoken there, such a list does not seem appropriate in the infobox, and all entries in such a list would have to be reliably sourced. Donald Albury 16:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
I have copied this discussion to Talk:Liberia#Native names for Liberia. Please make any future comments on this subject there. I will not be responding here again. - Donald Albury 18:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Mali, you may be blocked from editing. M.Bitton (talk) 17:17, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Are there sources listed for the other official languages' words for Mali? Oreen.yousuf (talk) 17:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to challenge what's unsourced, either by tagging or removing it, but don't replace it with original research. M.Bitton (talk) 17:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- ok thank you. I edited the Mali article with a reference now Oreen.yousuf (talk) 17:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to challenge what's unsourced, either by tagging or removing it, but don't replace it with original research. M.Bitton (talk) 17:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC)