NavalEngineer24
Welcome! edit
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Drafts you have created edit
Hi. I noticed that you created some drafts for USS Mahan and Grace Hopper amongst others. I have to ask why? There are already pages for these ships on WP. If you want to update these pages feel free to do so Gbawden (talk) 08:35, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
I am doing this for editing purposes. Creating drafts of these wiki pages in order to eventually update/replace them.
- I'm going to ask that you just instead edit the mainspace versions instead of doing this. If you are concerned about whether an edit is right or not, there's a talk page for each version. The problem is every time you create a copy, you aren't providing the proper attribution and your draft are mixed in the same mainspace categories as the real articles. For example, Category:Arleigh Burke-class destroyers contains both the real articles and your drafts. It does not help readers who may not understand what's going on. Finally, your methods create a lot more work for everyone else because you could just drop off tomorrow and stop editing and people won't know whether or not to keep this draft or not or whatever when the mainspace one moves on. If the mainspace one is further revised, your drafts just separates even more and more. Our policies are for editors to Wikipedia:Be bold and make the changes directly there. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:30, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
- Just chiming in to add that if you want some practice editing before you work on the main article (which is totally understandable), your sandbox is a place where you can copy over materials for short times (think less than 2 hours) for practice editing. Just make sure to delete everything from the sandbox when you're done, due to the attribution and maintenance issues that Ricky raised above. You can also just do scratch work in your sandbox without copying anything, which avoids all of these issues. A2soup (talk) 21:31, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
- I'm going to ask that you just instead edit the mainspace versions instead of doing this. If you are concerned about whether an edit is right or not, there's a talk page for each version. The problem is every time you create a copy, you aren't providing the proper attribution and your draft are mixed in the same mainspace categories as the real articles. For example, Category:Arleigh Burke-class destroyers contains both the real articles and your drafts. It does not help readers who may not understand what's going on. Finally, your methods create a lot more work for everyone else because you could just drop off tomorrow and stop editing and people won't know whether or not to keep this draft or not or whatever when the mainspace one moves on. If the mainspace one is further revised, your drafts just separates even more and more. Our policies are for editors to Wikipedia:Be bold and make the changes directly there. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:30, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
There is some relevant conversation about this at Draft talk:USS DONALD COOK. A2soup (talk) 17:44, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
- I will repeat the advice that you have been given. Please do not create copies of existing articles in draft space. Draft space is for the creation, editing, and review of new articles. If you think that existing articles need to be updated, either edit the existing articles boldly or discuss the edits on the article talk pages. Draft space isn't intended for revised versions of existing articles. Thank you for trying to improve articles, but creating copies isn't the way to improve articles. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:52, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Draft:USS DONALD COOK edit
Draft:USS DONALD COOK, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:USS DONALD COOK and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:USS DONALD COOK during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Gbawden (talk) 13:49, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Draft:USS McFAUL edit
Draft:USS McFAUL, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:USS McFAUL and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:USS McFAUL during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Gbawden (talk) 13:50, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Draft:USS DECATUR edit
Draft:USS DECATUR, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:USS DECATUR and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:USS DECATUR during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Gbawden (talk) 13:51, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Draft:USS ROSS edit
Draft:USS ROSS, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:USS ROSS and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:USS ROSS during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Gbawden (talk) 13:51, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Reverting edits edit
A warning. You reverted an edit of mine, which as a paid editor you are not allowed to do. I suggest you read WP:SHIPS policy. Hull numbers are for disambiguation purposes only at Wikipedia. Relevant policy here. Llammakey (talk) 17:31, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Apologies, did not realize until after I reverted your edit that you had already gone in and cleaned up my edits. NavalEngineer24 (talk) 17:40, 20 July 2016 (UTC)