User talk:MicrobiologyMarcus/Archive 2024

Review question

Hello,I have a question, I have created my draft and submitted it for review but it's taking too much time to get reviewed. What can I do for faster review ??

? Kemilliogolgi (talk) 10:20, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

@Kemilliogolgi: at the time of my response, the notification on the draft submission template reads This may take 2–3 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 553 pending submissions waiting for review. Please be patient while reviewers get around to your submission. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 17:50, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:IRR Transversal Line

Hello, thank you for the feedback. I have added some information to the Citations and I would like to know if they are good now. Are there any other issues with the draft? Happy new Year, JohnnyDoobydoo (talk) 11:18, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Happy New Year @JohnnyDoobydoo! A quick cursory glance looks like the references have been properly formatted—good job, that will significantly assist in the next reviewer in being better able to assess the notability and quality of the draft. I don't have time at the moment, but should the draft still be unreviewed by the time I get around to reviewing drafts next, I will start with yours. Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 17:56, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:SGFC Athletics Sport Club

Hello Marcus, i appreciate your feedback and the insights given to better create the page noted above. I have done a quick review of the Draft SGFC Athletics and modify most of the references. All the BARE sources have been deleted and dead citation is removed for relevant ones. i have used reliable sourced references and citations in my edits for the Drafts. I would like you to please review it one more time for accuracy to know if there are other issues to be added or edited. i have submitted it again today the 2nd January 2024 for review. Thank you for your time. Lakestein (talk) 03:30, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Lakestein: take a look at how the templates can be fully used by including the date of publication, the work, and the author's name. I've cleaned up up the first 6 references on the draft for you. As laid out in WP:REFB at § RefToolbar, this can be done quite easily with the popup window. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 16:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Marcus,

i appreciate your lead efforts. your corrections gave me a lot of insights. the citation used will through better light for other reviewer to place a good opinion on notability of the references used. i have done the needful on the templates and articles in question. i am waiting to see if there is more to be done or this will be it for better article creation on the subject matter.

Well done! Thank you so much for your guidance. Lakestein (talk) 22:45, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Jeffrey D. Goldman

Hi, can you please give me a couple of examples of what is not written in an encyclopedic format so I can address the issue? Everything I included is taken directly from the source material and I do not understand how it can be written any more objectively or dryly. I will remove the links in the headings. 2603:8000:753F:71F7:9977:FF64:5323:641B (talk) 20:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @2603:8000:753F:71F7:9977:FF64:5323:641B: the article expands on a lot of content in a puffery manner. Each section expands on a case or fact that isn't relevent to the subject of the article. Take, for example § Demonoid Phenomenon (Rob Zombie) case, where Goldman represented recording artist Rob Zombie, who sued automaker Mazda and its advertising agency for the unlawful use of his song, Demonoid Phenomenon, from his album Hellbilly Deluxe, in a truck commercial. cites to a source that includes the subject of the article, Goldman, in the source. The section continues The case settled in 2002. Zombie stated that he brought the case to preserve his musical integrity and credibility with his fans. "I don't want to play that song live and see the kids go, 'Hey, it's that truck song!' Corporate America doesn't understand that some people actually have values about things." That's okay: it adds context but doesn't really focus on the subject of the article.

Let's examine § In Da Club (50 Cent) case. Goldman was retained to defend 50 Cent in a suit for copyright infringement in a suit alleging that the phrase "Hey shorty, it's your birthday" in his #1 hit In Da Club did not infringe the 2 Live Crew song It's Your Birthday owned by the plaintiff. This would require a {{failed verification}} tag as Goldman is not mentioned in the source. The section continues In 2007, Goldman obtained summary judgment for 50 Cent, (primary source, not eligible for establishing notability) the court finding that the phrase "Hey ___, it's your birthday" was not original to the 2 Live Crew song., where again Goldman is not mentioned in the source.

The same thing occurs in § Mixtapes, § Counterfeit CDs and tapes, and especially § Myxer ringtone case; and at this point, most reviewers have given up.

Each of these instances alone might provide context, but when the entire biography is instead founded around paragraphs of promotional content and does not instead focus on the subject of the biography with WP:reliable and WP:secondary sources, it does not assist in demonstrating WP:notability and does not adheare to an overall WP:NPOV.

The biography would be better suited to one or two good sources showing that the subject participated in the trial, and in some instances may benefit from context, as opposed to an entirely promotional piece. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 21:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

References

WP:SYNTH

could you explain why did the session of the progressive list of 3p% in the article of List of National Basketball Association career 3-point field goal percentage leaders violate the WP:SYNTH? 爨龘龘 (talk) 13:23, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@爨龘龘: I don't see where the list was published independently (WP:NLIST), or the sources for each time the record changed. Instead, the section cited to one category record and as far as I can tell, the editor who wrote the section simply tracked changes throughout the years and added them to a table, therefore original research. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 17:18, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@MicrobiologyMarcus But there is another reference in the season which is above the list. 爨龘龘 (talk) 22:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@MicrobiologyMarcus So it is not an original research? 爨龘龘 (talk) 08:14, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

I disagree with the layout of the inline citation there but yes, feel free to revert. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 21:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

References

Iberian war

From when Paying tribute have became inconclusive !? Kasra hp81 (talk) 21:39, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

User:Fjnovoa/Ricardo Armando Novoa Arciniegas

Kindly you moved User:Fjnovoa/Ricardo Armando Novoa Arciniegas to Draft:Ricardo Arciniegas. Could you please rename the new title as Draft:Ricardo Armando Novoa Arciniegas, which is the complete name of the subject. Thank you in advance. Fjnovoa (talk) 22:31, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@Fjnovoa:  Done. Thanks, microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 14:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Ross Smith

Hi Marcus,

Wonder if you can offer advice because I'm struggling here...although I think I am getting closer to having it accepted.

My article has been declined by you, first, because of referencing - I've now put in many references - and, currently, because of 'Missing or Empty title'.

Two questions:

1. Does 'Missing or Empty titles' refer to the actual headline of the source material, for example, a newspaper headline?

2. Assuming the 'Missing or Empty titles' does indeed refer to the actual headline of the source material, into which box do I put the headline when the pop-up window 'Web Citation (RefToolbar)' appears?

Thanks for your invaluable help.

Ross EdinburghRoss (talk) 12:14, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Note: the above pages were swapped to place the former unsourced Draft:Ross Smith to User:EdinburghRoss/sandbox and the draft at User:EdinburghRoss to Draft:Ross Smith. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 17:13, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @EdinburghRoss: couple questions, but I'd be glad to help you in bringing the article up to mainspace standards.

1. I hope you don't mind my asking, but I need to based on the topic of the draft and your user name: Are you Ross Smith?
   • If you are, that's fine. There is an essay you should consider titled An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing and you'll also need to review the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest rules. You'll need to make a declaration on your user page. You can replace the redirect that is currently there with {{Template:User COI|Ross Smith}}. You are correctly following the rules by submitting the article through the AfC process.
2. Have you reviewed Help:Referencing for beginners? There's a helpful video there, File:RefTools rework.ogv. You can see that when you open up the reference toolbar, you can enter the author's name, the name of the article, the url, the website name and other fields.
   • Take, for example, the current first reference on the draft article: thejohnfleming.wordpress.com/2021/12/06/ross-smith-on-his-book-about-the-reality-of-working-in-the-creative-industries/. This would be formatted as: <ref name="Fleming 2021">{{cite web |last1=Fleming |first1=John |title=Ross smith on his book about the reality of working in the creative industries |url=https://thejohnfleming.wordpress.com/2021/12/06/ross-smith-on-his-book-about-the-reality-of-working-in-the-creative-industries/ |website=SO IT GOES — John Fleming's Blog |access-date=2 February 2024 |date=6 December 2021}}</ref> which would produce this inline citation and the appropriate reference at the bottom of the page.
3. Have you ensured that the content of what you're citing actually backs up what you're writing? Take, for example, the draft statement Cinema 2 (BBC Radio 2) was a weekly magazine show. Smith contributed to 51 episodes, including interviews with Keanu Reeves, John Lithgow, Thelma Schoonmaker, Michael Winner, Terence Stamp, Mickey Rourke]and Martin Sheen. The only citation you have in that section is to the page for the show, but nowhere can I find Ross Smith on that page. This would require a {{citation needed}} inline tag and makes it look like your writing Puffery. Ensure that your subject passes WP:NOTABILITY and is discusses in the sources that you're using.

Let me know if you have any further questions, I'd be happy to help. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 18:18, 2 February 2024 (UTC) microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 18:18, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

References

On verge of giving up

Hi Marcus,

Thanks as ever for your conscientiousness and speed of reply. I am indeed Ross Smith, the subject of the article. I'd like, if I may, to provide feedback on my experience of uploading. It's definitely nothing personal, you are great.

Alas, I have to give up on this page. I cannot work out Wikipedia's methodology for uploading a new entry. It's ironic, actually, because the beauty of Wikipedia, as a user multiple times a day, is that it is crystal clear. You get the information you want in a heartbeat. Compare and contrast, for example, with the cluttered layout of IMDb, drowning in adverts etc. However, my experience of attempting to upload a simple biography is akin to - I dunno - computer programming in 1987. It isn't intuitive, it's unfathomable. (And I'm a very intelligent, career-orientated person with initiative).

I wonder: does Wikipedia have a team who might be able to upload the page on my behalf, albeit editing whatever they wish? Although everything in the entry is true, I respect and appreciate the fact that things must be cited and referenced properly and, to that end, if certain parts of the page didn't meet the correct criteria, I would have no problem with the relevant text being removed. I would also be happy to liaise, if required, with the editor should they need certain points clarified.

It's frustrating - very frustrating - that I am unable to upload this page; I've seen hundreds of other pages devoted to others with far fewer credits than myself. Being so near, yet so far, to completing the entry, I wonder if there is a way round this problem?

Best wishes,

Ross EdinburghRoss (talk) 11:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Note: The above messaage has been grouped with the earlier message of the same topic. To reply to messages, you can click the reply button. For more help, see Help:Talk pages. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 13:00, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @EdinburghRoss: sorry to hear about your frustration with writing your autobiography on Wikipedia but we have some general advice about why it is hard to do and generally not a good idea. Review WP:Autobiography. Since your last comment here, the draft article's sources have been improved by another editor, you can see the correct templates for the sources in the article now, and how that results in proper citation style in the references section.

In general, Wikipedia's content policies and particular style of syntax can make it hard for newcomers to adapt to the writing style and creating your first article about yourself will naturally result in very steep learning curve as you try to follow the WP:Verifiability and WP:COI rules. Again, I'd stress to review the WP:Autobiography guideline for more information, more than I can put here.

Yes, while your peers may have articles and you may feel that your work should entitle you to an article here, those pages have been created because other volunteers have created the articles about them. There is no group on the project were you can ask someone to write an article for you. Keep in mind that other articles which do not meet our content policies may be deleted via our deletion consensus forum at WP:AfD (see also WP:Other stuff exists).

Per the guidance at WP:AUTO, you are more than welcome to continue to contribute to the draft about yourself in the draft space but keep in mind that once accepted and moved to the main article space, you can only request changes on the articles talk page (see WP:Edit requests).

You should also ensure, per my advice above at point 3, that the content you are citing backs up the claims made in the article. This will ensure both verifiability (as previously mentioned) and notability, the other major hurdle that articles must demonstrate to remain on the project. Remember that Wikipedia is not originator of information, but the documenter, we only collect information otherwise published.

If you are looking for more specific help as you write your autobiography, I would suggest the WP:Teahouse, our in house "help desk" where volunteers are happy to provide more specific advice in a timely manner, it is more closely watched.

Note that I've also gone ahead and placed a {{User COI}} tag on your user page with the edit summary pointing to the message you left here. If the draft article is moved to mainspace, it will need a disambiguator (i.e.: Ross Smith (author)) and then your COI declaration on your user page will need to be updated.

To your final point, there is no way "round" this problem. While the project does it's best to monitor for vandalism and some may slip through, you will find that there is groups of volunteers who perform different tasks. The WP:NPP is a group of editors who review new pages to ensure that no spam is being added to the project. It's best to follow the guidelines because repeated efforts to circumvent them often have the reverse effect and annoy reviewers (see the essay And the band played on...).

It's best to take your time (WP:DEADLINE) and ensure that the article meets proper content policies, remember the article can only get better (WP:DEGRADE).

Thanks, microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 17:03, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents - Creation of articles without sources, not acknowledging user talk page discussions

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Creation of articles without sources, not acknowledging user talk page discussions Shazback (talk) 23:30, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@Shazback: Thanks for starting this, appreciate the heads up!! microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 01:27, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Note: now archived at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1148#Creation of articles without sources, not acknowledging user talk page discussions. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 20:04, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Request for Undeletion of Baltic Chemistry Olympiad Page

Hello User:MicrobiologyMarcus,

I am writing to request the undeletion of the Wikipedia page titled "Baltic Chemistry Olympiad" which was deleted on [14.12.2023] for the second time. It is not funny that some wiki-enthusiasts decide that BChO is a minor event. You are obviously unaware of the history and traditions of scientific olympiads. Let me explain that there are only four international chemistry olympiads with a significant history: International (since 1968), Mendeleev (since 1992), Ibero-American (since 1996), and Baltic (since 1993). Most importantly, the problems of the Baltic Chemistry Olympiad are in English. Most of them are publicly available, and I am currently working on digitalizing the rest of them. Thus, not only is it a regionally important event, but it is also a significant source of problems for the whole Olympiad community.

I have thoroughly reviewed the deletion policy and believe that the page meets the criteria for inclusion based on the reasons mentioned above. I have also ensured that the content adheres to Wikipedia's standards of verifiability, neutrality, and notability.

I kindly ask for your consideration in reviewing the circumstances of the deletion and considering the new information provided in this request. I am open to feedback and willing to collaborate to address any concerns. For more details, please get in touch with me directly.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Best regards, Olunet (talk) 20:10, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Olunet: the article was deleted following the consensus discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baltic Chemistry Olympiad which ran from 30 November to 14 December, where it was found to be not notable in part due to it's lack of inline citations.

I am not able to reverse the deletion. You are welcome to request the deletion be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review or request that the deleting administrator place a copy in your sandbox or draft space such that you can continue to work on it, but keep in mind, if the article is not improved to meet article guidelines it will be summarily deleted again (WP:G4).

Kindly, microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 21:23, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Ebony Goddess Mystique

Good day Marcus, I left a message on the article talk page requesting for your assistance on the page regarding the inline citation correction. I need an example demonstration on the article if possible just one example and I learn to kick off from there as I have read more about the inline citation and footnote but still don’t understand it fully. Meligirl5 (talk) 10:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

I have read the above message. I will reply when I have a moment. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 20:41, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Good day Marcus, I’m still yet to hear from you regarding my assistance. Thanks. Meligirl5 (talk) 15:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

@Meligirl5 the article is missing references in the awards and nominations section. It is also good practice when using the real name of an adult film actor to give a citation immediately following the "outting" to where they have otherwise been prominently identified using their real name. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 19:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Your explanation is not still clear to me. First of all you said the article is missing references in the award and nomination section which have already done some changes after the first decline which was because of that. What other reference are your complaints in the award section to be specific?. If a subject is nominated under 2 category for 1 award. And she won 1 category out of the 2 categories and theirs a reference from a reliable source to the particular award. Does she needs multiple references to proof one reliable source to the award is not enough?

Secondly, regarding your statement “It is also good practice when using the real name of an adult film actor to give a citation immediately following the "outting" to where they have otherwise been prominently identified using their real name.” I have asked for a sample by demonstrating your explanation on the draft article so I can learn from there but I haven’t seen your contribution. I guess you might have been busy. Meligirl5 (talk) 00:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Good day Marcus, someone made some contribution to the article who is not a registered user. Wanted to ask was that you? And is there any need to revert the changes? Meligirl5 (talk) 19:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

@Meligirl5 yes, the citation needed tags will need to be addressed before the article would be able to be accepted. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 14:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Classic Drivers Club

Hello! As per your advice and after going through a number of well versed articles and guidelines, I have edited the article further. Could you please check if its inline to the wiki policies? Thanks a lot for your support and assistance. Ritabrata88 (talk) 18:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I have read the above message. I will reply when I have a moment. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 18:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi Marcus, could you please check and revert on the status.

Best Regards, @Ritabrata88 Ritabrata88 (talk) 08:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Ritabrata88, the article appears to be promotional, it looks like you have a conflict of interest, you are using sources (i.e. Times of India) that have been determined by the community to not be reliable, you have large unaddressed problems with the article itself and you don't appear to take reviewer feedback between different resubmissions. Further, since my rejection, another editor has also endorsed my opinion that the article is promotional even following a re-write. At this time, I don't feel it necessary to revert my rejection of the submission. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 14:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @MicrobiologyMarcus,

Thank you for your detailed feedback. I tried my best to consider each and every feedback but I aint a pro at this. I wouldn't say that this is frustrating for me but I'll rather seek your help. Since you mentioned the article being promotional, how do I overcome this? CDC is indeed a notable organization and I have just tried to mention the activities without using puffery to the extent possible. Further, you also mentioned COI, how do I overcome this? I'll be extremely grateful if you could assist me in this. Thanks a lot once again!

Regards, @Ritabrata88 Ritabrata88 (talk) 14:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I was about to go through the citations line by line, as you can see I've added a {{failed verification}} tag to one of your sources (not a good look for puffery), but as far as I can tell, everything about this organization's coverage is just either primary sources or news coverage of small events that appear to be promotional. Another issue I take with the article is the frequent blue link piping of The Telegraph (India) to The Telegraph.

I don't believe this organization to be notable at this time given the existing sources.

I won't be able to assist you writing the article any further. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 15:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @MicrobiologyMarcus once again, let me work on these.

Best Regards,

@Ritabrata88 Ritabrata88 (talk) 16:01, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Doubts related to my draft

I kindly request your guidance regarding the main problems related to this draft so that I may improve it. I am unable to identify the mistakes in this article; please guide me on how the draft does not adhere to a neutral point of view. I made an effort to avoid citing any sources from before 1947 and have removed the one source that was from before that time. All the remaining sources are reliable and thoroughly explain the topic of the draft. Despite this, the draft was rejected. Please advise me on how to improve the grammar and any mistakes I may have made in this article. Thank you.

I kindly request to re cheak the all the sources cited in my draft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jahangir%27s_Mewar_campaign Kemilliogolgi (talk) 09:49, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Kemilliogolgi: have you not seen the message I left on your talk page at User talk:Kemilliogolgi#Regularly moving draft articles not ready for mainspace? microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 12:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Help with my sources

Hi !

I saw you delcined my draft I understand its because of sources but could you please give me a specifix example ? Would really help :)

Thanks so much MarisolMagdelenat (talk) 15:48, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @MarisolMagdelenat: what draft is this in reference to? You have not included a link and your contributions (Special:Contributions/MarisolMagdelenat) say that this has been your only edit. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 15:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Sahi Siva

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Hi Marcus! I understand that Youtube sources were present but there were so many other references other than Youtube videos in the draft article. Could you provide more guidance? Because if Youtube videos were the concern, then those references can be removed. 81.104.111.169 (talk) 16:16, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi, welcome to Wikipedia. Consider logging in to track your edits and receive notifications when people reply to your messages.

No, the draft is not in an acceptable state. An example of further problems, For GCSEs and A-levels, Sahi Siva studied at Ilford County High School, where he had obtained 11 A*s with 3 As for GCSEs, 2As for AS Levels and 3A*s with 1A for A-levels. At Ilford County High School, he also took part in many societies, such as football clubs, athletics and cross country clubs, swimming club. He also founded the engineering society at Ilford County High School using a citation to LinkedIn is egregiously not okay on the project and is so promotional that it boarders meeting the WP:Criteria for speedy deletion in my opinion. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 16:51, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

@MicrobiologyMarcus That statement has been removed as you said. What other issues now exist having that sentence has been deleted? 81.104.111.169 (talk) 17:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Consider seeking more help at the WP:Teahouse or at WP:Wikiproject Music. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 17:09, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

@MicrobiologyMarcusAs a user who has declined the submission, it would be very useful to receive feedback into why the article has not been approved. 81.104.111.169 (talk) 17:12, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Per my declination reasoning, I don't believe the article then (or now) meets WP:notability because it's inline citations are to spotify, youtube, and BBC Asia setlists and do not demonstrate WP:SIGCOV. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 17:20, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

@MicrobiologyMarcusIs Linkedin source not allowed and valid in Wikipedia? Ellaborate? 81.104.111.169 (talk) 17:14, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

See WP:Identifying and using primary sources. No, it is my opinion that is not appropriate to use a LinkedIn page (i.e.: a WP:primary source) to demonstrate the subject's high school class glades. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 17:18, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Ok @MicrobiologyMarcus. So your opinion has been understood. Your useful advice to refer to WP:Teahouse has been taken on board. 81.104.111.169 (talk) 17:20, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

However @MicrobiologyMarcus, if Youtube sources are not reliable and allowed, then why does the article Jodi Are U Ready contain six Youtube sources? Yet, no action has been taken by any WIkipedia authors to address these concerns? 81.104.111.169 (talk) 17:24, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

There's nothing I can write that hasn't been covered in the article with the shortcut WP:WHATABOUTISM. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 17:30, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Ok @MicrobiologyMarcus. WP:Whataboutism has been understood. Your useful insights have been gained to improve and successfully add content to Singer Sahi Siva's article. 81.104.111.169 (talk) 17:39, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Reliable sources?

Hi, I'm User: BurningBlaze05 to creator of Draft:Louis Sharp. You've seen to declined my article due to 'non reliable sources'. I have submitted various other articles without issue, and I think that my sources are credible enough. What are ways that you suggest that I can improve this article?

Thanks for taking your time out the read this message! :) BurningBlaze05 (talk) 16:29, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

To add:The page itself is also well detailed and displays little to none grammatical issues. (I'm 16yo female and have learning difficulties, so I apologise if I've done something wrong with my draft pages) BurningBlaze05 (talk) 16:32, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @BurningBlaze05: is it typical to not have any citations in sports records? Lewis Hamilton shows the citations at the bottom of the tables. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 20:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't understand what you mean by that BurningBlaze05 (talk) 20:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

@BurningBlaze05: the tables in sections Draft:Louis Sharp § Karting career summary, § Racing career summary, and § Complete F4 British Championship results are uncited. I went to another athlete's page (Lewis Hamilton) to see what the standard is for using citations on these tables and saw that in tables, the citations are at the bottom row (see Lewis Hamilton § Karting career summary). It is my understanding of WP:V that this is an acceptable version of inline citations for information presented and would be required on the draft article. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 20:55, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

It's kind of a 50/50. Half pages have it and half pages don't, but all pages have career stats are in the external links. (driverdb.com)

It's kind of a small detail that is useless to enforce (some pages don't even have a racing record, and when colouring pages most do a (#ffffff.) while I do a (#FFFFFF) which makes no difference. Some don't do a (align=left) on racing record tables and some do, some people add quote marks (align="left") BurningBlaze05 (talk) 21:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't consider missing references on the same level as capitalizing hexcodes but you're welcome to resubmit; I won't be the one to accept the article in its current state. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 21:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Fabuwood

Hello, I am new editor and this was the first page that I made: Fabuwood. You posted a tag that the page sounds like an advertisement. I tried my best to make it neutral sounding. Do you have any advice on what can be changed to make it less advertisement sounding? Knockingonyourdoor (talk) 06:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Knockingonyourdoor: my two main concerns with the article is that excessively describes the products produced by the company and that a lot of its sources appear to be WP:CHURNALISM. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 15:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Review of new pages

Hello! Could you review of these pages Aznaur Tavaev, 2023 Russian National Greco-Roman Wrestling Championships and Azamat Akhmedov? Thank you! @MicrobiologyMarcus Ricco Baroni (talk) 07:12, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

I tend to stay away from reviewing sports leagues and sports figures and don't do reviews upon request. At a cursory glance, I cannot find any glaring issues of WP:BLP or WP:N, with the massive caveat that I cannot read the Russian sources. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 15:08, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

fumizuki clan article

Could you tell me in detail on how I can do a better job on that article? Hitachi fumizuki (talk) 21:51, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

@Hitachi fumizuki: per the declination reasoning, it does not appear to meet the threshold of notability and does not contain sufficient reliable sources. Consider reviewing WP:REFB for more help. Further, I'd also identify NPOV issues with your draft which may stem from your apparent conflict of interest. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 22:32, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Super Singer 10

Question for you - new editor on the article, NeeSinghamDhaan, feel like the latest sock of 81.104.111.169 / 161.74.220.0/23 to you? Ravensfire (talk) 17:36, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

@Ravensfire: Yeah, I'm thinking so. Looking at

| rowspan="2" |[[K. S. Ravikumar|K. S. Ravikumar (director, actor)]]<br>[[Dheena (actor)]]<br>[[Pavani Reddy|Pavani Reddy (actress)]]<br>[[Mahendran (actor)]]

from this comparison: [1]. Who pipes links from pages without disambigs to add the descriptions in. That was part of the needed ongoing cleanup and it's being added back in? Same editing pattern I'd say for sure. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 17:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

@Ravensfire I've opened something on WP:Sockpuppet investigations/81.104.111.169 but it's my first time doing so. I've used Twinkle so hopefully everything was correct but feel free to check my work. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 17:48, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh thank you! I was thinking about the SPI and you've done the heavy lifting. I'll comment there. In part, some of their editing has improved - not using colors, not using all caps, still adding descriptors after names and the issue you noted, but there's potential to be a better editor, but not even trying to discuss that they've been blocked, the reasons and how they can do better, just creating new accounts and going. Sigh. Thank you! Ravensfire (talk) 17:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

@Ravensfire, see also Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Increase#Super Singer 10 microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 17:52, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Requesting Feedback for Draft:Enrique Avilez article

Hello Marcus, can you please give me feedback, what should i do? MichelleGodoy2020 (talk) 22:05, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @MichelleGodoy2020, you've got text that is highly promotional (contrary to WP:NPOV) that cites to facebook, youtube and interviews with the subject (a WP:primary source). These are not WP:reliable sources. The article must be based on facts that were established by secondary sources and use inline citations to those sources. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 00:48, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

i want to add a new topic

its just a mistake. next time i careful. Tabassum3 (talk) 20:00, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

User:Investigative-Journalist-1973/sandbox

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There is no extra text above the article. I do not understand why you see a blank page...I see an article. Investigative-Journalist-1973 (talk) 16:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Investigative-Journalist-1973: Is this in reference to the text on your user page at User:Investigative-Journalist-1973. The draft article you sumbitted was your sandbox page, located at User:Investigative-Journalist-1973/sandbox which was, and currently still is, blank. You'll need to place the text of your draft article on your sandbox page, below the invisible comment instructing you where to place the article text. That is why your submission was declined for being blank. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 16:09, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

I hope this helped or moved. I don't know why if has a feel of an HTML world here where it is not automated...like plug and play style. I moved the text intuitively. I do not know if it was moved or not moved. I do not quite understand the setup on Wikipedia. Investigative-Journalist-1973 (talk) 16:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Investigative-Journalist-1973, what you did was moved the empty article to mainspace where it was then tagged for deletion because it was still blank so an administrator moved it back to your sandbox where you then moved it to the draft space with a somewhat relevant title but it was still blank so another editor again declined it again because the actual page of the draft you are submitting has no content. So I've copied the content of your user page and placed it on the draft page. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 18:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Note: User blocked. Page deleted. Diffs removed, last bit stricken. Wow, should've read the content of that more closely first before helping. That's a regretful mistake. Attack page masquerading as an article upon further inspection. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 19:13, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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Request on 15:38:06, 2 March 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Jdbtwo

• Jdbtwo (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:WKdm (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I can't add references to sections that the reviewer feels are inadequately sourced if I don't know what sections they're referencing or what exactly what the reviewer wants to see in those sections if they're edited so that they have what the reviewer feels is enough inline citations. Could you please tell me what sections you feel are inadequately sourced? There is only one section with no inline citations in it because I felt the inline citations in the previous section had already adequately explained the material in that section and I didn't want to be redundant -- if you actually read the sources it's apparent that everything on eg. "Decompression" is explained by the sources in the compression section. I can edit the draft article and add inline citations to the sections which you feel are inadequately sourced if you tell me which ones need more inline citations ( it is obvious though, that the sections with no inline citations are inadequately sourced, and I can easily fix this ).

I could cite many examples of articles already on Wikipedia with far fewer sources than my draft and which have at least one section with no inline citations. Take, for example, the Motorola MC14500B article or the DEC PDP-14 article.

I don't see how articles of the aforementioned types are fine but my submission isn't -- is there some sort of double standard?

Jdbtwo (talk) 15:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

I've edited the draft article and added inline citations to the "Decompression" section and also added more inline citations to the article in general. I went with the policy of adding inline citations to sentences and paragraphs -- hopefully it isn't excessive. Please tell me if the edited draft meets your requirements for sufficient inline citations for the various sections. Jdbtwo (talk) 16:08, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Just a thought : I didn't add many inline citations (before the last edit) per section / paragraph as I felt it would introduce redundancy. I believed that adding more citations would create clutter because I thought that the sentences and paragraphs following said inline citations had already adequately been referenced regarding the subject being discussed and explained in more detail in the sources for the aforementioned inline citations -- I guess I was in error. Jdbtwo (talk) 16:20, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@Jdbtwo: I can see you've definitely added the sources. I'm trying to better understand if the coverage you've demonstrated allows it to meet WP:N as I'm not sure the primary sources cover it.

In regards to your comparission articles, yes, it's well established that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.

microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 16:30, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

I was just adding more inline citations but there was an edit conflict -- trying again. Jdbtwo (talk) 16:43, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

A Question on "advancing" the article

As you may remember there was the IRR Transversal Line article with whom you helped, for which I thank you, yet I still have a question: the article is currently rated as Start-Class, what do you think would be changes to get it into C-Class? Do you have any remarks on the article, or advice? With kind regards, JohnnyDoobydoo (talk) 18:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Hey @JohnnyDoobydoo, looks like a C class to me. I've updated the ratings. For more information, you can review WP:Content assessment. There is also a group of editors who monoitor WP:WikiProject Wikipedia/Assessment § Requesting an assessment if you wanted to request someone to review it and give feedback. For asking for more suggestions about what it would generally increase the quality of the article, the fine folks over at WP:WikiProject Trains would be the best place to seek help. Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 20:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Request to move Anshika Kaithwas to Anshika (footballer)

Kindly request you to move the page I just created for Anshika. There is another footballer, Anshika Kaithwas, from UP and I mistook her for Anshika. Anshika is the Indian player (goalkeeper).

Your help will be much appreciated as I don't know how to remove the page. Thanks a lot! Davidindia (talk) 15:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Davidindia: I'm sorry, I'm happy to help, I just don't understand the request.

You made Anshika Kaithwas and you want to move that to Anshika Kaithwas (footballer)? Where is UP?

The reason for the move is you want to make another page for a different Anshika Kaithwas, also a footballer, from India?

The reason I ask is because it will most likely need double ambiguators if they both play football:

Anshika Kaithwas (Indian footballer) and Anshika Kaithwas (x country footballer)

Let me know, I'm happy to help. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 15:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I created a page for Anshika (instead wrongly named it as Ashika Kaithwas, who is another footballer from UP).

So I want the current Anshika Kaithwas to be renamed as Anshika (football) or just Anshika. Sorry for the trouble. Your help is much appreciated. thanks and regards! Davidindia (talk) 15:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Davidindia becayse they both play football, they'll both need a disambiguator with the page name of the name being a disambiguation page. And because of the similarities, the WP:MONONYM is not a solution here, they'll need to be properly identified. I'm happy to move it, I just need more information. Can you draft the new article, for the time being, at Draft:Anshika Kaithwas (even if it's just a stub, just so I can get basic info) then I will move all properly and you can continue working after that?

Thanks, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 15:44, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Agree. Because Asnshika Kaithwas is also a potential India player... So I guess you should put the current page in a draft and then I will work on it. When I tried this (Draft:Anshika Kaithwas) it is saying, page already exists. Thanks and sorry for the trouble. Davidindia (talk) 16:07, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Or may be I can change this article and put Kaithwas content. And later create a separate page for Anshika (goalkeeper). Just give me 30 min. I will change the content. Please don't make it a draft right now. Thanks Davidindia (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. As per your advice I have put the new content. Later, once I create the page for Anshika (goalkeeper), a disambiguation page can be created, I guess. Thanks once again. Best, Davidindia (talk) 16:33, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Davidindia that was not the way to do it. In the future do not overwrite articles simply to claim the page name as it affects the relevant page history and associated wikidata linked to those pages. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 16:54, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

OOps. My sincere regrets. I was a bit confused and made the mistake. Kindly suggest how I can correct it. Posting my talk page reply here. Davidindia (talk) 17:18, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Davidindia it's been resolved. Do not use that as a solution in the future. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 17:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks a lot. Did in good faith, though! Davidindia (talk) 17:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Davidindia -- You currently have two identical articles for both players (minus the differing date of birth). This is not acceptable, especially when you have personal information about one of the players (i.e., that she donated part of her liver to her brother). This is clearly not the case for both players. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Davidindia and Significa liberdade: I believe the correct revision has now been placed on then page. As the original author, can you review and confirm. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 17:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

There are two players. One is Anshika (Indian player, goalkeeper, HOPS, Haryana) and then Anshika Kaithwas (midfielder, Uttar Pradesh) who donated a part of the liver. The second one is not an Indian player, she only played the Nationals. Actually, I have enough material with reliable references for Anshika (HOPS, Haryana),but right now there is no article/page for her... Can I can create her page so that there is no confusion. Apologies for all this mess! Davidindia (talk) 17:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Davidindia Hang on, before there are any new pages created. Take a look at Anshika Kaithwas and see that it is a DAB page for Anshika Kaithwas (footballer, born 2004) and Anshika Kaithwas (footballer, born 2003). Slow down. First things first: are these articles and their content correct? Work on those first. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 17:45, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

The first one (born 2004) is not correct. It is Anshika's (hops). The second one is correct for Anshika Kaithwas. Maybe we should remove DoB, as we don't have reliable source. thanks Davidindia (talk) 17:48, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@Davidindia okay, that's not how I saw it, that one doesn't have a birthdate source. I've placed both in the draftspace for the time being until these can get sorted out. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 17:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Much appreciated! Davidindia (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Anshika Kaithwas moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Anshika Kaithwas. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because both articles included are red links and were apparently also moved to draftspace. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. CycloneYoris ^talk! 19:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I do apologize for the automated message above, but it was because I used the "draftify" script to move the dab to drafspace. CycloneYoris ^talk! 20:07, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@CycloneYoris: None needed, appreciate the extra eyes on cleanup! Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 21:25, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Request on 01:59:54, 5 March 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Dinman01

• Dinman01 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Kent W. Colton (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I received notification of my article Kent W. Colton being declined because submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Are you able to provide a little more detail so that I can revise before editing and submitting again? Dinman01 (talk) 02:02, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

@Dinman01: All of your external links in the text are inappropriate. Review WP:External links for more information, in particular, External links normally should not be placed in the body of an article. Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 16:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft:When the World was Green (a Chef’s Fable)

I am resubmitting. I followed you guidelines/recommendations. Advise or change accordingly. Thanks. Greg Cesear (talk) 03:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

@Greg Cesear I removed one problematic sentence I found before publishing, but otherwise good job on the article. You can see the removal on Special:Diff/1211987007. Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 16:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought that sentence would be going but wasn't sure if you wanted a little more specificity. I like the additional sentence under productions, as well. Greg Cesear (talk) 22:53, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Following up about a page you turned down

Hello Marcus, I am reaching out because I am a newcomer to editing on wikipedia, and I recently posted a draft of a page that was turned down by you. I have worked hard to correct the problems that you identified, but it says on my sandbox page that I should reach out to you first before resubmitting. The page in question is about the dutch academic, author and methane reduction activist, Roland Kupers. Can you please let me know what my next step should be? thank you so much for your help, best, Anne (with the wiki name of acknowledgeshame) AcknowledgeShame (talk) 01:38, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @AcknowledgeShame, I am unable to find your submission, it looks like it has since been deleted. You should contact the deleting administrator or seek review at WP:DELREV. Kindly, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 13:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Wiki Page

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Hi, I’m writing to you about approving the page of the wikipedia of the multi-million company HMD Trucking, the profile of which I have done here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:HMD_Trucking. I did not understand why the page was not approved because it meets all the requirements, and the company is very famous. I’d like to make a deal with you about whether I can buy a approve of this page or if you can tell me when I should change the text so you can do it for free. I also see that now the queue for verification instead of 7 days became 7 weeks, and now generally 8 weeks. How to fix this, why is it happening? USSRHydra (talk) 14:35, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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Your comment on a submission Draft:Anne Hallward

Hi Marcus, Thanks for reviewing the submission on Anne Hallward. Your comment was that some of the sources are not reliable. I checked them, but can you help me by pointing out the specific problem that you see? Many thanks, Plainwriter (talk) 17:30, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Plainwriter, the awards section is uncited but uses WP:External links. These would need proper inline citations. Best, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 18:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi Marcus - ah, indeed - the links are all specific to Hallward, but indeed should be citations - will fix and resubmit! Plainwriter (talk) 16:12, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Safe Space Radio

Hello MicrobiologyMarcus,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Safe Space Radio for deletion, because it's a redirect that seems implausible or is an unlikely search term.

If you don't want Safe Space Radio to be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

Geardona (talk to me?) 23:23, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Rajan Jayaprakash

Hi good Morning, Could please tell me where the peacock terms used. And the subject has extensive coverage in chennai city news and times of India about fourth force. Can you help me with this. Sreeram181997 (talk) 04:06, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Sreeram181997, the article uses a lot of promotional tone. Consider With over three decades of experience in and he has established himself as as two examples in the lead alone. This language is promotional and does not serve to describe the subject of the article, as should be done by an encyclopedic entry. You should also note that, as a WP:BLP, all personal information needs to have WP:Inline citations. Currently, § Early life and the first two sections of § Career have no citations whatsoever. You should also be aware that Times of India is not generally considered a reliable source, especially for establishing notability. You can find more information at the Perennial Sources project page at WP:TOI. And if it is about the fourth force, it does not generally confer notability to another subject, in this case Jayaprakash. See WP:NOTINHERITED, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:INDEPTH. Thanks, and if you have any more questions please don't hesitate to ask. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 15:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Also, take a look at the WP:Style guide, section headers should be sentence case and not bold. Instead, use only increasing level headers with = equals characters. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 15:37, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi good Morning Times of India is reputed new media in India. It is generally considered as notability.

and if any section didnt have citation means. Whether we need to remove it or it can be there. Sreeram181997 (talk) 07:17, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

@Sreeram181997, per the section The Times of India (WP:TOI) on WP:Reliable sources/Perennial sources:

The Times of India is considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable. It has a bias in favor of the Indian government and is known to accept payments from persons and entities in exchange for positive coverage.

microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 12:42, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah understood.. I have added other sources other than TOI. for example chennai city news which extensively cover the topic which i have written. I have made changes which you said with regard to peacock terms. Can you help to further changes which required. Sreeram181997 (talk) 13:38, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Mike Signorelli

Thanks Marcus for your recent comments regarding the pastor Mike Signorelli submission. I've corrected some issues in the latest draft, but it continues to be a "work in progress". I've followed pastor Mike for a year via his youtube channel & am attending his Georgia conference later this month. Will resubmit the article sometime in April if all goes well. Thanks Eldon Eldonbearden (talk) 17:16, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Eldonbearden; unfortunately, the draft in its current state is not acceptable and ready for publication to the main space. Presently, there are two major hurdles the draft needs to overcome: Wikipedia's policy on Notability and Verifiability.

First, the subject of the article (here, Mike Signorelli) must meet Wikipedia's WP:Notability threshold. Review that project page, but in brief, to be notable for Wikipedia, and therefore qualify for an article, the subject must demonstrate it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, per our General Notability Guidelines (WP:GNG). In certain subject areas, the topic may need to only meet its subject-specific notability guidelines. In this case WP:Notability (people) applies.

Second, because the topic of your article is a biography of a living person (BLP), our WP:Biographies of living persons policy applies. Our BLP policy is a subset of our WP:Verifiability policy, which states that other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. Specifically, this means you need to use WP:Inline citations to all facts or statements about a living person on the subject.

What does this mean for your draft? It means you will need to add inline citations to your draft that come from secondary sources. Currently, your draft has no inline citations. For help with this, see a tutorial at WP:REFB. By adding inline citations, it will demonstrate that all of your facts are backed up by external sources, and therefor meet WP:Verifiability and will show that Signorelli has been covered by secondary sources and pass the WP:Notability threshold.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 20:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Ruth Levy Guyer

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 00:38, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I

Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

• Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
• Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
• Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
• Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
• Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
• Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
• Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
• Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
• Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
• Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
• Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
• Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
• Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
• Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
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Biography activation Draft:Hafiz Bayero

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hi Marcus, there is this biography we creating in Wikipedia Draft:Hafiz Bayero could you please look into it and let us know what to edit to bring it up to Wikipedia standard? Omotola.Bankole (talk) 08:56, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Omotola.Bankole: who is "we" you are referring to? Are you familiar with the Wikipedia policy on shared accounts? microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 14:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello @MicrobiologyMarcus

My account is a personal account and I am familiar with the shared accounts policy on Wikipedia, by 'we', I meant the owner of the page, Hafiz Bayero, the original author @Fellow22 and I, pardon my terminology.

Nevertheless, can you give your insight on how this page Draft:Hafiz Bayero can get approved by Wikipedia? Omotola.Bankole (talk) 13:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Okay @Omotola.Bankole, a couple issues then to address:

1. You should be aware that off-wiki canvassing such that creating multiple user accounts sharing the same purpose is considered WP:MEATPUPPETRY, a clause of our WP:SOCKPUPPETRY policy and against our guidelines.
   • If you are all working together, you need to declare any WP:Conflicts of interest you may have on each of your individual user pages.
2. Hafiz Bayero is not the owner of the draft article. Neither are you or Fellow22. There are so many reasons to why and it has been explained previously in much more depth, so I will direct you to WP:OWNERSHIP.
3. The original draft article was declined by @Jamiebuba. You will need to consult with them on re-considering the rejection. From a prima facie review of the draft, the subject does not pass our general notability guideline.
4. Copying content without attribution from one location to a different location within Wikipedia violates our attribution policy that is explained more in depth on Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia.
5. Further, doing so to subvert a previous rejection from an AfC reviewer is considered WP:Gaming the system. The fact pattern from the above article history is explicitly laid out at WP:GAMENAME.

Wikipedia is NOT for promotional content. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 15:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Note: User blocked. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fellow22. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 14:15, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Jubilee Mission Medical College & Research Institute

Hi there!

I had edited and added some content to this page. In fact I was actually in the middle of adding sources to the information. Give me around an hour, and I will be done with adding the relevant sources.

I am adding the old information that you deleted back to the page. I hope you won't mind. Just bear with me for an hour so.

Thank you. 61.3.173.221 (talk) 16:14, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Happy to, you might also find that by logging in, you can use a sandbox in your userspace. You might also find WP:REFB helpful. Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 16:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

User:Sholaasiru/sandbox to Draft:Payaza Africa

Hello MicrobiologyMarcus, I noticed that my article on Payaza Africa Limited was removed. As this is my first attempt at writing here, I'm finding it challenging to grasp the policies and identify where I went wrong. I also received a notification suggesting I contact you before making any revisions to the article. I appreciate your guidance in advance.@MicrobiologyMarcus Sholaasiru (talk) 11:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Sholaasiru, regarding your draft that was in your sandbox, I moved it to an appropriate page title in the draft namespace (here: [2]) for various reasons, as a a part of the article creation process after you submitted it for review. During my review, it was my opinion that the draft article was unambiguous advertising or promotion of the subject, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia (see WP:NOT) and therefore qualified for speedy deletion under criteria G11 and tagged it as such, hence the notification on your talk page warning you about it, and providing instructions on contesting it. An administrator (Seraphimblade) agreed that it was too promotional and has already deleted it (here: [3]), so you'll have to discuss with them about retrieving it, or you can rewrite it in a more neutral tone and submit that version.

Hope that helps, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 13:24, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Enrico Perotti

Hi Marcus, thank you for reviewing my recent Wikipedia page. I've improved it using your comments. Please let me know whether it meets the standard now or whether I have to make further improvements. Kr, Remo Remo Oostdam (talk) 14:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Remo Oostdam, the § Education and academic career section is entirely void of references. In addition, I don't believe that your draft article demonstrates that the subject meets WP:Notability because all of the current references appear to be WP:Primary and not WP:Independent. You might find reviewiwng the notability guidelines for academics helpful, at WP:NPROF. I won't decline it again personally, but I do suggest you make these improvements. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 14:15, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Where is Kate? for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Where is Kate? is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Where is Kate? (3rd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

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Draft:Iakov Goldovskiy

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Dear Marcus, Thank you for your reply. Could you please specify what exactly needs to be done with the Article? We have 8 different References and several citations in the article. Shold we add more? Or is there another issue?

Best regards, PCH Team PCHTEAM (talk) 07:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Note: User blocked. Log. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 18:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not for promotion. The draft suggests the subject founded a company PCH. Further, accounts may not be shared. —microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 18:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

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Draft:Kenzi Wang

Hey Marcus, I hope you’re well.

Thank you for reviewing my post. Unfortunately it got rejected :(

This was my first attempt at writing an article on Wikipedia. Would it be possible for you to give me some feedback on how I can improve my writing? What I did wrong and what I did right? I would really appreciate it!

I did see the draft info you provided, however, I think it would really help if you could give me a little insight as you have a lot of experience.

Kenzi Wang is listed as public figure on Google search so seems like it should be there but maybe I didn’t cite it correctly or used bad citations?

I would really appreciate a bit of insight here so I can improve my wiki page writing skills.

Thank you!! Jamesw98 (talk) 17:35, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Jamesw98, happy to help. Unfortunately, since the time of my review, another edit has deemed that that draft was too promotional and was eligible to be deleted. Our records show that the draft article was deleted by User:Bbb23 (talk) as it met criteria G11 for being too promotional. You'll have to discuss with them about having the article restored. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 17:43, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Adam Zeman draft

Thanks for your review of Draft:Adam Zeman (neurologist). I've added some secondary sources to it - I'm not sure how much secondary coverage is required to demonstrate notability. LookLook36 (talk) 02:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

HI @LookLook36, generally, our WP:Notability policy specifies that a topic must meet our WP:GNG list. Specifically,

• "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.
  • The book-length history of IBM by Robert Sobel is plainly non-trivial coverage of IBM.
  • Martin Walker's statement, in a newspaper article about Bill Clinton, that "In high school, he was part of a jazz band called Three Blind Mice" is plainly a trivial mention of that band.
• "Reliable" means that sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.
• "Sources" should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected. Sources do not have to be available online or written in English. Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability.
• "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. For example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website are not considered independent.

Specifically, understand that significant coverage shows that the subject is the main focus or a main focus of the cited material. See WP:SIGCOV.

Alternatively, if it can be shown the subject of the article meets some of our subject-specific notability guidelines, then notability may be presumed if the subject meets the requirements of the subject's project. For WP:NPROF, the list there says:

1. The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.
2. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.
3. The person has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers or Honorary Fellow of the Institute of Physics).
4. The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions.
5. The person has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon.
6. The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.
7. The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity.
8. The person has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area.

You might also consider trying to demonstrate WP:NAUTHOR. You should look to meet these notability requirements by citing to sources that are WP:Reliable, and WP:Independent of the subject. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 15:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for this, it's very helpful. I believe I have demonstrated that he meets WP:NPROF on grounds 1 and 7 - I've resubmitted the article. LookLook36 (talk) 12:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Regarding Draft: Play Equity

Hello Marcus, and thank you for your timely edit of play equity ... I've made the edits for sourcing, and await any input. Many thanks. I've made the edits you recommended and await any other guidance or ulitmately, am hopeful this can be published. PrintableSpace (talk) 23:35, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @PrintableSpace, good job on the edits, I've resubmitted the draft on your behalf. Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 15:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Wentworth Huyshe

Hi,

Can you advise on any update on the review for Wentworth Huyshe, an active member of the Arts & Crafts movement in Chipping Campden in the early 20th century? I don't understand how the sources and references quoted are inaccurate or unverifiable? Huyshe2022 (talk) 17:39, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Note: Responded on talk page. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 16:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Mediterranean Sea View 2017

Hello!

I see that you have been working through the Mediterranean Sea View 2017 page that was recently uploaded. I saw that the page received a "C" on the talk page score. Do you have advice on how to fix that and raise score? I want to make sure that the article is meeting Wikipedia standards. FanofColorado (talk) 19:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @FanofColorado, there's nothing inherently wrong with an article that receives a C-rating, see WP:ASSESS. Coming out of AfC and past the WP:NPP team says that the subjects meets our core principles on WP:Notability and WP:Verifiability, which is not a guarantee, especially for new editors. Good job on your first article! But if you're curious, the requirements for an article to be assess a B-rating is:

1. The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited. Any format of inline citation is acceptable: the use of <ref> tags and citation templates such as {{cite web}} is optional.
2. The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies. It contains a large proportion of the material necessary for an A-Class article, although some sections may need expansion, and some less important topics may be missing.
3. The article has a defined structure. Content should be organized into groups of related material, including a lead section and all the sections that can reasonably be included in an article of its kind.
4. The article is reasonably well-written. The prose contains no major grammatical errors and flows sensibly, but it does not need to be "brilliant". The Manual of Style does not need to be followed rigorously.
5. The article contains supporting materials where appropriate. Illustrations are encouraged, though not required. Diagrams, an infobox etc. should be included where they are relevant and useful to the content.
6. The article presents its content in an appropriately understandable way. It is written with as broad an audience in mind as possible. The article should not assume unnecessary technical background and technical terms should be explained or avoided where possible.

If you would like, you can request a more formal feedback and assessment at WP:WikiProject Wikipedia/Assessment § Requesting an assessment. Or you can ask the folks over at WP:WikiProject Visual arts what their recommendation would be.

To go higher than a B-class article, you would need to submit it as a Good article at WP:GAN, a lengthier process on the project. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!

Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 21:01, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your response and edits with the first article! I will keep fine-combing that up. FanofColorado (talk) 01:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft:SK Ray

Hey Marcus,

I have mentioned reliable and enough citations for the information provided on the page,could i please know where did it go wrong or what needs to be corrected, SK Ray IITKGP (talk) 18:06, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @SK Ray IITKGP, first I would remind you of the WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY notice I left on your talk page and a reminder of our WP:COI policies in the event that the draft is accepted. The draft article currently has multiple WP:external links in the text that either need to be turned into references using <ref> tags or removed. In addition, the draft currently cites to a lot of WP:Primary sources, that in turn, create concerns about failing to meet Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policy. At present, the most cited reference on the page is a wixsite.com website for the lab group; not exactly WP:Secondary or WP:Reliable. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 18:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Further, a closer examination of your sources would have shown that the links provided are generic homepage urls which are not specific to the subject of the article, search query URLs that are non-specific, and profiles that do not return any information as it pertains to the subject of the article. Frankly, if you are only here to promote someone or something without an understanding of the policies and practices of the project, Wikipedia might not be the place for you. Take the advice of Wikipedia:Autobiography. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 18:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey Marcus,

Thankyou verymuch for mentioning in detail on things that needs to meet wiki-policies,we will surely get back with proper changes required for artcile to get published.

However,you have specified that some URLs are non-specific and do not return any info,but please do look closely into it,which proves the info provided ,for example "He is the recipient of the Indian National Science Academy (INSA) Young Scientist Award of year 1993", to this i have given the Website URL and the other URL which directs you to Award recipient page in which there is list of names to whom it was awarded(in our case it was of year 1993 with name Ray Samit Kumar) ,and the also same process has been applied to other information provided.Frankly, we are not here to promote anyone , this was just an attempt to have a page on our professor who is really well established and renowned for his contributions to semiconductor physics. SK Ray IITKGP (talk) 04:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Comment

Hello, MicrobiologyMarcus,

First, thank you for all of the good work you are doing here on the project. You are a very productive patroller and it's appreciated!

Second, I watch the Move log and have noticed what seems to be some odd page moves. You sometimes move an article out of User space to Draft space and then either a) tag it for speedy deletion or b) move it straight away to main space. You don't need to move a page out of User space to Draft space before doing either of these steps. You can both tag it for deletion while it is still in User space or move it directly from User space to main space. Neither deletion tagging or a move to main space require a detour to Draft space. Also, I haven't seen you do this but please don't move an article out of User space to main space so that the article can then be tagged with an "A" speedy deletion criteria. Again, I haven't noticed you doing this but there do seem to be some unnecessary page moves going on and so I want to mention that this is not a wise move.

I think any unnecessary page moves will be confusing to the content creator because the deletion tagging and the multiple moves happen just seconds after the first page move to Draft space so they are probably unaware of what is going unless they happen to be editing at the time this is occurring which is unlikely. I hope I have gotten across my point, ask me if you have any questions about it. Many thanks, again, for all of your contributions to the project. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Liz, appreciate the feedback. Happy to walk you through my thinking on the maintenance moves I do.

I move drafts submitted while in the user space because I'm following the Reviewing instructions § Submissions in other namespace and the advice in the tracking category at Category:Pending AfC submissions in userspace. My understanding of this protocol is two fold: once submitted, it's best in case the draft isn't reviewed right away that other editors may want to improve on it (like is possible with the notification with the {{r with possibilities}} redirect template). The other is (and again this is my understanding) that drafts that are spammy or promotional and therefore later deleted, will be tracked in the deletion log under that page name. That's the advice I've seen previously proffered. So that's why I might move it and then, when a closer inspection finds that it may qualify for speedy deletion, tag it for speedy deletion. I often only do this for articles masquerading as an encyclopedia entry. I like to think that most moves+reviews I do are declinations (or leave them) and not rejections or CSD candidates. Drafts that are obviously spam and don't pass that first sniff test, I'll tag with the {{Db-multiple}} U5 and G11 prior to a move; I know some editors will do this before a move, but like I said, my understanding was that leaving a record in the deletion log was preferential.

With regards to moving to draft space and then right to mainspace, I try not to do this. I know I've done this recently twice off the top of my head. In these instances, what usually happens is I think I'm not be ready accept and they're best to incubate for someone else to review in the draft space, but then I end up coming around on them. To this end, I understand your point that less moves in the move log would be preferential, and in the future I'll try to slow down in these instances and catch (and approve) them sooner without the layover in the draft space.

Don't think I've done any moves of drafts (or sandboxes) to mainspace for the sole reason that they would qualify for an "A" CSD criteria.

I always appreciate the feedback. Hopefully my logic makes sense and you can see what I'm doing, but if my understanding of the above procedure or logical reasoning thereof is wrong, please let me know. I'm always happy to take more feedback about reviewing and some of the maintenance work I do. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 01:41, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Central Ohio Film Critics Association Awards for Best Animated Feature

Hello MicrobiologyMarcus, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Central Ohio Film Critics Association Awards for Best Animated Feature, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 17:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Ivanvector I appreciate the heads up here on the declination decision. I'll walk you through my thought process on the A7 as it applied to the aforementioned now-draft article: my understanding of WP:SIGNIFICANCE was that because I didn't think that the article made a statement along the lines of any of the examples in the guidelines, just gave a description of the subject AND all of the sources that weren't primary just gave a list of the nominations that didn't describe the subject, I thought I was good on the A7 nomination.

I reply with my explanation because A7 isn't a CSD criteria I use frequently and I did in fact do some background reading before the nomination, so I was curious where our interpretations differed or where I faulted and missed the indication. Thanks again, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 19:37, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

This was really borderline, and I'm probably more lenient with "claims of significance" than a lot of administrators. I thought that merit awards from an organization of film critics with several years' history was probably enough of a claim to pass the bar, but only just. Then I thought about it some more and sent it back to draft, it really wasn't ready and if that's all the sources that are available then it's a long way from WP:GNG. I also don't work with A7 very much, I don't like criteria that are that subjective. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 19:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

@Ivanvector that's fair; I greatly appreciate the heads up and the guidance here. I saw the draftification and figured we weren't that far apart on our end opinion of the article. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 20:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Joel Mordi

Hi @MicrobiologyMarcus, thank you for your comment on my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Joel_Mordi. I've made the changes as you advised. Please feel free to offer more suggestions if needed, so I can submit my article for review and get it into the mainspace. Thank you. ~Ana (talk) 11:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Christiana Stanley, in my opinion, the draft still reads as promotional and as a WP:BLP, does not meet the minimum standard for inline citations. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 13:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

How to translate Chinese Article about Yuta Jinguji?

Dear Marcus, Thank you for your review! My first attempt to write an article about Yuta Jinguji is declined. In fact, there has been an article about Yuta Jinguji in Japanese, Chinese, Cantonese and Indonesian on Wikipedia. I tried to translate the existing Chinese version in English. I translated, in my opinion, some important parts of the content, since the instruction on the page said I didn't need to translate all of them. However, when I tried to publish it, it showed me "Unknown unrecoverable error has occurred. Error details: You do not have permission to create new pages." Therefore, I copied my translation to start a whole new page and submitted it, which has been declined as your message. May I know how can I get permission to translate the existing page about Yuta Jinguji? Thank you so much! Sincerely, Rae Raekishi0929 (talk) 02:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Raekishi0929 and welcome to Wikipedia! There's a couple things that I need to address in regards to the draft you've written.

First, because you've translated other's work, you need to provide attribution to that work. In the future, you'll need to provide that attribution in the edit summary when you add the text, per the guidance at WP:Copying within Wikipedia § Translating from other language Wikimedia projects. I've done that for Draft:Yuta Jinguji in the edit summary at Special:PermanentLink/1219383695.

Second, because the subject of the draft article is a living person, the WP:Biographies of living persons (or BLP) policy applies. As such, every statement will need to be verified and cite to an independent and reliable source, using inline citations. The inline citations for the draft only begin about halfway down in the current version.

By citing to reliable and secondary sources, you will presumably be able to demonstrate WP:Notability of the subject, provided that there is significant coverage (see WP:SIGCOV) of the subject in those articles. Just because the subject has articles on other language projects does not mean that the subject is notable on the English Wikipedia, though other language sources may be used to demonstrate this notability.

Further, there are a lot of issues with the prose and style of the draft article that, when combined, make it appear more WP:Promotional than encyclopedic. The use of bold and over-linking of the article text is contrary to our WP:Manual of Style, and the external links are unsuitable, especially when linking to the subject's social media, and need to be removed (see WP:NOSOCIAL). In general, I would advise you read the WP:MOS and see what other Wikipedia pages look like to get a sense of writing your first draft article and see what is required to have a draft accepted to the mainspace.

If you have any further question, I would be happy to advise. Cheers, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 16:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

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Video content

Hello Marcus,

I'm currently editing the article with new resources to enhance the content. I had a question about a video source... Is it acceptable to include it in the article, and what kind of source does a video represent (in depth, reliable...)?

Cheers

Antho Anthosalba (talk) 07:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Anthosalba, this is in regards to Draft:Sofia Pro, correct? In general, use of videos should supplement the text and not serve as the only source of a particular piece of information for an article. It's hard to know specifics without knowing which video you want to use and how you plan on using it. In general, the guidance on Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images is mostly applicable to videos. If you're looking to include the video to supplement the text as a descriptor, all the copyright concerns and free use rational come into consideration. A video in that sense is not so much a "source" as any conclusions drawn from it would be original research. Though if you want to cite the content of the video, we do have templates like {{cite interview}} and {{Cite AV media}} but then you must be careful the information you are citing is most likely primary if it is coming from the subject. Again, this is broad advice, but I'd be happy to offer more guidance, but I would probably need more specifics and context of your intended use. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 14:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Marcus. Yes, it's Sofia's draft. Thank you for the full details. I would like to extract some passages in order to quote them in the article and to complete the design part of the font. I would like to rely on the author's words.

Thanks again and cheers Anthosalba (talk) 18:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

If you plan on using it as a source (and not including it in the article—my apologies, I misunderstood) then feel free to rely on the {{cite AV media}} or {{cite interview}} templates, whichever you feel would be more appropriate. In that case, consider the guidance on WP:Evaluating sources and what kind of material you are citing using your video source. Consider if it is WP:Independent or not; primary, secondary or tertiary; if it is WP:Reliable. While citing to these sources can be okay, depending on the context, different sources will support the overall article in different ways: non-independent sources may be used to support non-promotional material, but not promotional writing; primary sources may contribute to the understanding or explanation of an article, but would not support any claims of WP:Notability.

After you've included in, I might be able to offer more guidance but again, this is all speculative and general. Happy writing, microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 18:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft page for artist Bonnie Rychlak

I am very confused by your comment about needing footnotes in my article about Bonnie Rychlak. There are 25 footnotes and multiple links to other Wikipedia pages that establish the notability of this individual in TWO careers: artist and curator/writer. Per Wikipedia's criteria, this person is: a person is notable if: "1. The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors; or 4. The person's work (or works) has been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums." Having worked with the eminent artist Isamu Noguchi for decades, archived his work, created countless exhibitions and publication, and a founding member of the Noguchi Museum, Rychlak is considered one of the most authoritative voices on this artist and is widely cited. If there are specific references that are incorrectly cited, please point those out to me.

I am responding to the call to remedy the gap in Wikipedia entries between male and female artists. There are hundreds of entries of male artists of far less significance with far fewer references that have cleared the bar for this category.

How can I get this entry reviewed by someone in the Women Artists Project, who I think would be in a better position to assess. I have attempted to draw in others on this discussion but am not clear how to do so. Gaw54 (talk) 19:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Gaw54, I've left maintenance tags in response to some my concerns about the article, but if you feel my considerations aren't valid, you are more than welcome to revert my changes and resubmit to allow another editor the chance the review your submission. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 20:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Canal Boat Diaries: what am I doing wrong?

I thought I've added reliable sources such as links to the programme from Guardian and Daily Mirror news articles? But it's still getting rejected.

With thanks, Stuart BellotaUK (talk) 12:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @BellotaUK: you've added WP:Bare URLs to the end of your article but they are not inline around information to act as a supporting reference. You should consider formatting your references, the guide for which is at WP:REFB, so that reviewers may judge notability. The BBC url is to the show itself and should be removed as it is not a reference. Depending on the coverage, the BBC will also not be independent coverage to establish notability. The Mirror is also not great at establishing notability (see (WP:DAILYMIRROR) as it is a tabloid. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 13:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

My article was declined by you,

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Hello, good day, I already submitted everything I need to regarding (Nicholas Ferguson) on the page secondly my client Ferguson is exhibiting in Berlin by may 2024 people there wants his Wikipedia page to believe in him, please help me out to let this work out sir, thank you. Aliuola (talk) 02:01, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

See the Wikimedia Foundation policy on WP:PAID editing, our community policy on WP:COI editing, and then finally re-read your draft and see if it falls into anything on the WP:What Wikipedia is not page, particularly the sections regarding promotion. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 12:41, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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Looking for help

Hi,

I want to know, why to declined my client draft,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michel_Ngue-Awane 103.3.205.216 (talk) 11:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, you've failed to cite your biography using proper inline citations to secondary and reliable sources. Further, the draft article is full of purple prose and very promotional, directly contradictory to WP:What Wikipedia is not, see WP:PROMO. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 12:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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