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Wikidata weekly summary #422

Wikidata weekly summary #423

DYK nomination of Namikawa Sōsuke

  Hello! Your submission of Namikawa Sōsuke at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SL93 (talk) 20:42, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Khalili Imperial Garniture

On 12 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Khalili Imperial Garniture, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that on their display in Chicago in 1893, the vases of the Khalili Imperial Garniture (pictured) were described as "the largest examples of cloisonné enamel ever made"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Khalili Imperial Garniture. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Khalili Imperial Garniture), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #424

DYK nomination of Namikawa Sōsuke

  Hello! Your submission of Namikawa Sōsuke at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:26, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #425

Your submission at Articles for creation: Khalili Collection of Swedish Textiles has been accepted

 
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Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:36, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Namikawa Sōsuke

On 25 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Namikawa Sōsuke, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Namikawa Sōsuke (work pictured) and Namikawa Yasuyuki were the only two cloisonné artists to be appointed Imperial Household Artists? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Namikawa Sōsuke. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Namikawa Sōsuke), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Namikawa Yasuyuki

On 25 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Namikawa Yasuyuki, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Namikawa Sōsuke (work pictured) and Namikawa Yasuyuki were the only two cloisonné artists to be appointed Imperial Household Artists? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Namikawa Yasuyuki), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #426

Image caption

Hallo Martin, thank you for the wonderful and interesting contributions in the area of Japanese art. I would just like to point out to you in case you were not aware of it how to caption images, which is described here in detail [1]. Mentions of museum collections also normally do not belong in the introductory text but can be mentioned further below in the article. In a biography a lead image should be of the person itself, followed by the artwork. If it's only about the artwork then obviously the lead image reflects that accordingly. If you have any questions or need help please do let me know. Thank you. Gryffindor (talk) 00:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi User:Gryffindor and thanks for this pointer and for your recent article improvements. I agree that ideally in a biography the lead image should be of the person, but often we don't have an image of the person, as with Kawade Shibatarō and Namikawa Sōsuke, so naturally the first image will be something else. Although the MOS says captions for artworks should name the artist, this is surely redundant when the image appears in the biography of the artist: it's implicitly obvious who the artist is. That's why I've removed artist names from a couple of image captions in biographies. I don't know if you're involved in building GLAM partnerships, but in my experience prominently crediting the source collection is encouraging for partner organisations as well as a benefit to readers; the MOS doesn't say not to do this, just that it's not as important as other information. Can you explain to me your rationale for removing alt text from galleries? I know it isn't very informative, but having alt text is better than none. My advice to you on external links is taken from WP:ELCITE, namely "If you link to another website, you should give your reader a good summary of the site's contents, and the reasons why this specific website is relevant to the article in question. If you link to an online article, try to provide as much meaningful article information as possible." Could you do this for the links you've recently added? Thanks in advance, MartinPoulter (talk) 09:31, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
And I've just seen your DYK review and your inventive solution to the image aspect ratio problem, so thanks very much indeed for that. MartinPoulter (talk) 09:44, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Hallo Martin. Concerning mentioning museums, etc. in the lead text I recommend WP:NPOV. Why mention one or two museums, why not mention and list all of them? I think it can quickly then become unwieldy if it should be neutral. If it's a unique, famous piece then the current location can be mentioned in the infobox, see Rosetta Stone for example. Or if there is a specific museum dedicated to just that one artist like Vincent van Gogh. I hope I am making sense to you in what I am trying to say. For the alt text in the galleries my apologies if I removed that, of course that can stay. Concerning what I think you mention as the bare links I have added? I think there is a bot that comes in tags it automatically, but in the interest of time I done a manual run through https://refill.toolforge.org/, I don't know if you are familiar with it? It's quite useful. You're very welcome with the DYK and image, it's just a suggestion, please feel free to improve on it of course. Thank you and good luck. Gryffindor (talk) 15:42, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
@Gryffindor: NPOV, as I understand it, doesn't rule out adding this information to captions. I agree that it's unbalanced to just mention one collection; that's why my practice has been to credit multiple collections in image captions. It seems now we're into the realm of your personal opinion rather than established policy or practice, because this discussion started with you pointing me to a guideline, and that guideline specifically mentions the collection as information that can be put in the caption of an artwork image. That's the guideline I'm happy with and I was following. I also think it's helpful to list collections which are known to contain an artist's work and this is what I've been doing. I agree that we don't want a huge, unwieldy list but I haven't come across that situation yet.
The external links on Kawade Shibatarō are no longer bare URLs, but the link text is in Japanese, which obviously isn't much use on English Wikipedia. Again, look at the guideline WP:ELCITE that I quoted. Readers of the article need to be told what the link is and how it is relevant to the article they are reading. It goes without saying that this should be in a language they understand. Please could you fix this? MartinPoulter (talk) 10:33, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #427

DYK for Kawade Shibatarō

On 7 August 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kawade Shibatarō, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Kawade Shibatarō co-developed the moriage ('piling-up') technique, which gives enamel artworks a three-dimensional effect? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kawade Shibatarō. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Kawade Shibatarō), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #428