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Latest comment: 7 years ago by Mabuska in topic Hillsborough/Lisburn

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April 2017

Please self-revert your removal of the tags on Northern Ireland. Tagging disputed material is the way we avoid edit wars and there is no question that the inclusion of both flags is disputed. I'm not going to break 1rr but I will reinstate them at some stage if you don't ----Snowded TALK 10:18, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be an edit war to avoid at present and the addition of dubiously added dubious tags is hardly going to avoid it if it did happen or hardly highlight it as disputed. The flags will always be disputed because of Irish nationalist bigots and their supporters but it doesn't mean they don't have status of some form. Mabuska (talk) 11:02, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
If anyone is going to start an edit war it is yourself Snowded. Your tagging is contentious and has been reverted and per WP:BRD should be discussed and agreed upon. Your threat to reimpose your tagging once 24 hours has passed so you can avoid 1rr means you are explicitly stating you are willing to edit war over it. Mabuska (talk) 11:05, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Cool it. Tagging is an alternative to edit warring. Given your unwillingness to change and personal attacks I have reinstated them now (that is one revert). I said I would resinate the tags if you would not, as an alternative to edit warring on the flags themselves. Sorry if that wasn't clear ----Snowded TALK 11:46, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Tagging isn't an alternative as tagging can often lead to edit-warring itself and you where clear, however as already described above you have now basically engaged in edit-warring over it by reinstating regardless of BRD. So self-fulling prophesy on your behalf. Mabuska (talk) 13:17, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

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Hillsborough/Lisburn

The report you made to the incidents noticeboard re: The Hillsborough and Lisburn articles (Irish language names) has now been archived. I have added a comment in the archive, but I suppose no one will see it. What happens now? I bother you with this as I can think of no one else.....Daithidebarra (talk) 15:15, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

The admin who got involved only showed off their incompetence especially in regards to edit-warring. I would say let the issue lie. If the IP comes back and reverts the now sourced Irish forms then they are guilty of removing soyrced information on top of everything else. After a couple more warnings it's back to an/I where I will make a point of the admins failure to tackle the problem. Mabuska (talk) 12:07, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Gee, thanks for the personal attack. I'm not an admin BTW; everyone is reading it, and if someone saw something that should be done, they would have jump in. See my comments at User talk:Daithidebarra#IP editor 82.7.125.216 / 81.104.12.193 edit warring. If IPs return, then the next step would be semi-page protection to stop IPs from editing. The best way to do that is to make a request for each page at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Nfitz (talk) 22:31, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

It was not intended to be regarded as a personal attack, however whilst all input is welcome AN/I is specifically for raising issues with admins not standard editors and your responses showed what to me was a clear lack of experience and competence. I assumed you were an admin and maybe other admins thought so too leaving you to ajudicate the thread. Then again maybe not. My views in what should be done next are already public. Mabuska (talk) 18:39, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

I'm incompetent, yet you brought something to ANI that shouldn't have come there? If you wanted page protection, go make a request for each page at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. If you think this is related to Irish Nationalism and the Troubles, follow the procedure outlined at Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions#Alerts as per Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles. If it's edit warring, go to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. If you think I'm wrong, and it should be at ANI, make then start a new discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard, and just reference the old one - Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive947#IP editor 82.7.125.216 / 81.104.12.193 edit warring and I'll stay out of it. I note that User:81.104.12.193 reverted the Lisburn text again today, despite the source. I've reverted, and I'll place some warnings on their talk page later on, when I have a chance. Nfitz (talk) 22:07, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

yet you brought something to ANI that shouldn't have come there? - says who? The opening sentence of the AN/I welcome statement makes it pretty clear that This page is for reporting and discussing incidents on the English Wikipedia that require the intervention of administrators and experienced editors.. I reported an incident, though unfortunately didn't get the intervention of either. So your comment is ultimately neither here nor there. Mabuska (talk) 13:38, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Chichester

Hi, took Arthur Chichester off Nine Years War as he was a regional commander, if he was to go in you would have to put in Docwra, Oliver Lambert, Carew etc. Moreover I'd put in the Lord Deputies from earlier in the war if I knew how to do it properly (Fitzwilliam, Russell, Burgh) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galloglass1598 (talkcontribs) 11:01, 22 April 2017 (UTC)