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Your edit summary here] Links shouldn't go to redirects unnecessarily. is only partially true. In general, WP:NOTBROKEN describes There is nothing inherently wrong with linking to redirects to articles and goes on to state With a few limited exceptions, there are no good reasons to pipe links solely to avoid redirects. It is almost never helpful to replace [[redirect]] with [[target|redirect]]. This is precisely what you did by changing this:

  • HMS Carlskrona (M04), a 1980 Swedish Navy minelayer modified for ocean patrol in 2009 and redesignated as P04 (* [[HMS Carlskrona (M04)|HMS ''Carlskrona'' (M04)]], a 1980 Swedish Navy minelayer modified for ocean patrol in 2009 and redesignated as P04)

to this:

  • HMS Carlskrona (M04), a 1980 Swedish Navy minelayer modified for ocean patrol in 2009 and redesignated as P04 (* [[HSwMS Carlskrona (P04)|HMS ''Carlskrona'' (M04)]], a 1980 Swedish Navy minelayer modified for ocean patrol in 2009 and redesignated as P04)

Further, WP:MOSDAB gives guidance on how disambiguation entries should be formatted. In particular, WP:DABREDIR and WP:PIPING describe when and how to use piping or redirects. olderwiser 17:12, 17 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

The article on HMS Carlskrona is not a disambiguation article. I don't agree with the statement "It is almost never helpful to replace [[redirect]] with [[target|redirect]].", I find the contrary to be true. Redirects should never be used on purpose; the function exists only to avoid dead links. Lingon of the Dark (talk) 18:05, 17 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
You misunderstand. M4 is a disambiguation page. If you disagree with the well-established guidance at WP:NOTBROKEN, you should discuss it on that talk page. And if you disagree with the well-established guidance on how to format entries for disambiguation pages, you should discuss that on the relevant talk page. olderwiser 18:27, 17 July 2013 (UTC)Reply