Lalue

Section edit links

Cool, thanks for telling me about this script. It certainly makes things easier when going through headings - I've added it except I've commented out the "== Change section heading links ==" part and that made the script work for me. I'm happy to meet another Wikipedian who uses the site with screen readers. I wish you luck for the accessibility project at the German Wikipedia; I only know a bit of German from one of my assistants at school so I can't really participate there. If there's anything you need let me know - I've managed to do just about everything possible on Wikipedia as a normal user, and I have a test copy of MediaWiki where I have experimented with the admin interface. Graham87 09:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Wwhat do you think about using the page "for users of screenreaders only", where we and maybe other users could talk about accessibility- and usability-problems of Wikipedia? Maybe we can find some Wikipedians, which could give me help with translating at important and difficult points. For example, there is a new tool for blind, which schow the recent changes optimized for screenreader without all the ( ) [ ] and the links talk and contribs. Its just a fast developed tool from a german user but it schows, what I want to make a lot of special pages look like, while using a special skin for blind people. Unfortunately there is a , (don't nnow the word for this, maybe colon), which appear always in the second line, but it seems difficult to get it away from there.
Nice to hear, that you like the code which changes heading and editlink. :-) -- Lalue 11:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

You can use wikipedia talk:accessibility to talk about all accessibility problems with Wikipedia. Several people watch that page and will provide comments. I think it's best to create one easily accessible page for having discussions. As for the recent changes tool, I like it - it's not as cluttered as normal recent changes in Wikipedia. However the only problem I find is that the user page link is not useful for IP addresses, as IP addresses don't normally have user pages. It'd be better to link to the contributions page.

One big problem with making Wikipedia less cluttered for screen readers is the sheer amount of information present in pages like the history and recent changes. I sometimes find the talk links from recent changes handy when I want to quickly give someone a warning. I have been thinking about how to make the history pages easier to use for the blind and have not thought of a way without losing functionality. Just about everything on the history page is linked and it took me a while to figure out what all of it meant.

Maybe we can move this conversation later to wikipedia talk:accessibility so other people can comment. I'm sorry about not replying to your comment earlier - I have a 630-page watchlist and I like to check it very thoroughly in case of vandalism to articles. Graham87 13:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

O.K., lets move to accessibility talk. I have put the important parts of our conversation together and copied it to this place. :-) Maybe this is not the correct way, but it was just our private talk till now. -- Lalue 15:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Accessibility

Guten tag! I'm Alli, and that's the only german I know. Oh well. Anyway, thought you might be interested in a new wikiproject that I and a few others have started; Wikiproject Accessibility. I know you think you don't speak English well, but I read some of what you wrote and in my opinion you speak English better than more than one native I know! I have often found that non-native speakers of any language will tend to speak more properly than natives, I've been told many times that when I speak french I sound like a textbook! At any rate, hope you'll stop by and join, as I think you could be a lot of help to us, and maybe we could help you too should you ever need it! L'Aquatique ^talktome 05:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)