November 2015 edit

I have citations that could help the "William Oke" page, which I figured out how to add some content to, but do not know how to add them citations or how to contact the first author of the page, BigIron, to have them add them in the style that they would approve of. Is the first step to contact the first author of the page? how do I do that? thanks

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Rennie's Mill: Historic Homes and Early Residents edit

I would strongly suggest request userfication in the deletion debate for the article. Rennie's Mill likely meets notability requirements as it is one of the National Historic Sites of Canada. However, the article is written like a directory, which is why it was nominated in the first place. I know that it can be frustrating to have an article you worked hard on get removed, but removing the article into your user space will allow you to improve and eventually repost the article at your leisure. I posted similar message in the AfD, but wanted to post in your talk page just to make sure that you saw the post and knew of all of your options. Please feel free to message me on my talk page if you have any questions, or just reply here. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 00:55, 28 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

William Oke edit

Hi - I saw your note on my talk page. Not a problem but, for future reference, it is better form to start a new section with a subject heading (like I did here) when you are starting a new topic on a talk page; that makes it more visible. There should be a "new section" option on the talk page which will help you do that.

Donner60 has given you some good links to information about formatting references. If you look at the William Oke page, you will see that content describing a reference appears inline within the text between two tags: <ref> and </ref>. You can manually format your own references or there are also some citation templates called "cite" that can help format references. The William Oke page has already been set up so that new references will appear in the References section. And don't forget "Preview" is your friend.

If you don't feel comfortable with adding references, then put the information about the references here and I will try to help you put them in. --Big_iron (talk) 17:25, 23 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi - I added two references to the text - the Newfoundland Quarterly & the Newfoundland Newspapers as per your note. I think that the Newfoundland newspapers is good enough as far as identifying John F Munn as co-owner. (The Encyclopedia of Newfoundland and Labrador says something else). I noticed that the island name usually appears as "Harbour Grace Island", the same spelling as the current official spelling for the town. I used "cite journal" for the Newfoundland Quarterly but the other reference "cite web" is pretty straightforward to use: url for the url, title for the page name and publisher for the organization responsible for the web site. --Big_iron (talk) 11:06, 7 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Regarding the images from the Newfoundland Quarterly on the Memorial University Digital Archives Initiative site, the licensing for these images is NOT compatible with Wikipedia. They are Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 which is good, but there are two restrictions on their use: NonCommercial & NoDerivs, which means that they cannot be used on Wikipedia. See the discussion in Creative Commons license about types of licenses. Images on Wikipedia are not restricted, so only images with compatible licenses can be used. --Big_iron (talk) 21:10, 14 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Rather than recalculating Oke's age when his father died, I put in February 1862 as when his father died. I used a different source as reference - the town of Harbour Grace says "turned out for the event on Tuesday, July 22nd ... Missing from the crowd, however, was Mr. Edward Oke who had drowned while crossing the ice between Harbour Grace and Harbour Grace Island just five months before." Wikipedia tends to prefer secondary sources as opposed to primary sources such as census records and birth/death registrations when possible, because primary sources can be open to misinterpretation (also, the genweb sources are a transcription from the primary source which can be another possible source of errors). --Big_iron (talk) 11:35, 15 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

I went with another source for the date of death because it also listed place of death & cause of death and was more precise (the newspaper report said "Saturday last, Feb. 24th when word was received announcing the passing of WILLIAM A. OKE" which might mean that he died the day before). --Big_iron (talk) 11:53, 15 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

There is a "bot" that adds signatures for unsigned comments on talk pages but it is better form to sign your comments with --~~~~ at the end. If you have additional updates, this might be a good time to try and get your feet wet with adding references yourself. There are a certain number of working examples on the William Oke page. You can always use "show preview" to see what the results would be without actually changing anything. Please feel free to ask if you need some assistance. --Big_iron (talk) 13:12, 17 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Bravo! I'm a big fan myself of reusing what already works. --Big_iron (talk) 14:55, 23 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Wow, it's grown quite a bit. I wouldn't worry too much about the "stub" designation in terms of WikiProject Canada and WikiProject Newfoundland and Labrador; that just reflects the state of the article when those Wikipedia projects noticed that this new article existed; this will probably get revised at some later point. You could put your questions on the talk page for the article but they might not get a lot of attention there. You could try posting your questions at Wikipedia:Reference desk. I haven't tried using the Reference Desk myself but it seems like a reasonable thing to do. --Big_iron (talk) 20:01, 16 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

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