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Your edits on Stephen K. Hayes

Please note that the "references" you added are not references. Posts on Discussion forums are not reliable sources. Please also note that references (correct, third party reliable sources and not posts on Discussion Forums) go "inline" in the main body of the article and not in the references section. Thank you.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 03:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for responding. I will try to remember it. I am new here. The best reference for the takedown of his name would be to contact George Ohashi himself. He e-mailed several people about the matter, so it is difficult to link to it. It is easy to confirm that he is the person that takes care of things at the dojo in Japan and is subject to Dr Hatsumi. How would I use this as a reference? Kidotai (talk) 03:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Are there any articles online from any newspapers, martial arts magazine or journals etc that mention it? If so then they can be used as a source. If you can find one then I can help you add it in so long as it is a reliable source! Thank you. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 03:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I will look. I know from discussion with Mr Ohashi that he was ordered to take down the name and was given reasons for doing so. Since this is a very hot subject for some people, might it be possible for the staff here to take the time to contact Mr Ohashi and confirm the story? A short e-mail might solve a lot of trouble in the future. Kidotai (talk) 03:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The article does still have the short mention his removal by George Ohashi. Presumably there are sources in Japanese? However, it would really help, even if there is just one decent source in English that mentions it. Just that will suffice for his removal to be "verified" in accordance with wikipedia policies. If you aren't able to find a source I will have a look myself tomorrow.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 03:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Well Jikaku just edited them out saying that he was not going to allow them to stand. You can read his comments in the talk section of the article. I get the impression that he will never let that stand, no matter the sources given. He said in his edit comments that he will continue to remove it until there is a source that meets HIS qualifications. Based on the fact that he seems to have been at the center of a little "Edit War" I suspect that nothing will ever meet his qualifications. So could someone on the staff here send off an e-mail and end the matter. It can be verified with just a simple e-mail. Please read his comments on the matter and you will see why I fear that he will never let the article carry that fact unless the staff here takes part somehow. Kidotai (talk) 05:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

You seem to be reading a great deal into my words ("not going to allow them to stand" or "will continue to remove it until there is a source that meets HIS qualifications") - fortunately, people can actually go and read what I said, which is no where near your mischaracterization. Anyway, they're not *my* qualifications, they're wikipedia policy, and we'd all be a lot better off if you read them. For example, when it comes to biographies of living persons, it says: "Self-published books, zines, websites, and blogs[5] should never be used as a source for material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject of the article." Which means the recent source you use doesn't qualify, and *also* according to wikipedia policy, needs to be removed immediately. Jikaku (talk) 18:23, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

But the source I referenced is not "Self Published." The author of the article is not the owner of the site. I was asked to find an independent source, and I gave one. If I read what you are saying, only Stephen Hayes can be used as a source for himself and we can't talk about the actions of George Ohashi. Kidotai (talk) 22:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

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April 2008

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Ninjutsu‎. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Nate1481(^t/_c) 10:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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