User talk:Khoikhoi/Archive 29

Bozcaada

Why did you delete the dab page? (I can guess why)--Domitius 18:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Ayran

Please justiy the various translations for Ayran. --Oguz1 18:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Ordu

Please provide a source for "Today, the city's population is mostly Turkish following the Armenian Genocide[1] and the expulsion of the Greek population.

The source cited ISBN 0060198400 does not contain a census but here's one from Wikipedia that says it was mostly Turkish about that time.[[1]]

Please provide precedence where historical population is cited within current (e.g. provide another article that discusses previous populations)

Please provide NPOV sources for any of the above. --Oguz1 18:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Mardin

Are you serious? (http://lexicorient.com/e.o/mardin.htm) --Oguz1 20:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Besides I was talking abou this [[2]]

You added that to Mardin.

Please provide a NPOV source about that. --Oguz1 20:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Ardahan

He's right, it was administered by the DRG, though it was claimed by the DRA. -- Aivazovsky 20:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Cities of Kurdistan

Wow, you are a city of Kurdistan, good to know that :)

Check the categories below deniz 21:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Now you are not categorized anymore.

A question, am I allowed to (for copyright purposes) to download this image [3] from wikimedia commons, draw a rectangle around Turkey, then upload it back? What should the copyright message be then? I want to use it on Anatolia and Geography of Turkey. Thanks

deniz 21:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Monospace

Out of curiosity, how many other editors have you run across with monospace font signatures? You're the only one I can think of. —dgies^t_c 22:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Qazakh

Don't you think it is possible to unlock Qazakh now, after beinglocked over month? See Talk:Qazakh. `'mikka 00:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Khachkar destruction

I had to undo your redirect here. This has survived 2 AfDs in the last month, so I have to let it stand. - Richard Cavell 03:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

...

Khoi, in history of Armenia you just reinstated ararat_arev's edits.-- Ευπάτωρ ^Talk!! 03:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It would had you paid attention. Look [4], the difference is identical to what I had removed earlier. All of it is ararat_arev's crap that he has been inserting into various articles since the day he registered. He has been spamming several Armenian forums as well now for the past few months. It was added a while ago, nobody had noticed it though...-- Ευπάτωρ ^Talk!! 03:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

That's ok. Sorry for being grumpy...-- Ευπάτωρ ^Talk!! 03:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Redirect

Hi dear, I do not know how to redirect pages. Can you help to do this because I found 2 article for same person but different names. check these Ghulam_Murtaza_Syed,G._M._Syed. Khalidkhoso 03:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

another old NisarKand account

Hi Khoikhoi. Sorry to bother you again. But here are 2 more sock puppets NisarKand had from long ago and is using again. Pashtun786 and Aero_stud24. And here's a new one Rizza18 (you can tell by his racist attacks toward Tajiks and Shia Islam). Thanks Khoikhoi. --Behnam 07:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

World Heritage template

Hi again. Someone proposed that the World Heritage template be merged with the protected area template. In any case, a user is complaining about the lack of use of the World Heritage template. See this article for reference. Joey80 12:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

khachkar destruction

You redirected page from khachkar destruction to page Julfa - yopu mentioned that I agreed on that. Only on some conditions which is not fulfiled yet by Armenian editors. and I absolutely don't agree with the change of the name - khachkar destruction in nackichevan--Dacy69 13:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

possible troublemaker

Hello Khoikhoi,

Can you please keep an eye on User:Imbris? He seems to have come here with purely political goals (POV pushing about the independence of Vojvodina, or something) and he and Panonian have been fighting for about two weeks--it looked fairly 50-50 at first but now it looks like Panonian is tired of fighting but Imbris is still harrassing him anyway. I don't really know what to do, maybe you can help. K. Lásztocska 13:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Blocking pages in the UAE

Hello Khoikhoi, Your name comes up repeatedly as blocking UAE IPs. Please can you not do this as all users go via one ISP (Etisalat and its proxy) and IPs are assigned dynamically. Thank you.

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213.42.2.27 14:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello. The IPs are also assigned as proxies, via the international service ([5]), and my block of 195.229.241.187 (talk · contribs) is what caused the collateral damage. If I am mistaken, please let me know. Khoikhoi 03:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Kurdistan cat

Consensus new and old

Why are you blanket reverting me? Do you have a reason to call random cities under Kurdistan cat? If you have a reason to object my removal please state your reasons under the mediation case or else please agree with the consensus. -- Cat ^chi? 18:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

They're not "random cities", they're cities in Kurdistan. There was no consensus to mass-remove the category from every page. Khoikhoi 03:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

There was no consensus to tag them like that in the first place. Aside from me, no one (including you) bothered to even comment on the RfC or the mediation page. If you have a rationale in reverting me, please state it on the mediation page. Also, please study the image on the right. -- Cat ^chi? 07:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Am I supposed to assume good faith?

On Adil creation of the article Azerbaijani Genocide? Thanks for moving it, and YEH that it had not degenerated like most of the things he does. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fadix (talk • contribs) 23:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

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Names

Greetings! I want as to settle the problem with the names of the towns. I remove the foreign names from the beginning of the articles because ALL greek towns are made in the same manner and this is not fair. This is why I will continue to remove the names of Plovdiv, Burgas and others from the beginning until I see the Bulgarian names of the greek towns in the same place.

You see that I have left many Turkish names (Haskovo, Isperih, Kubrat and others) in the beginning of the article so you have nothing to complain. --Gligan 11:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Foreign Relations of TR

Who cares Armenia in foreign relations with the neighbors of Turkey when compared with others like Russia, Iran etc. Whoever had written the paragraph about them as if it has a high importance than others... SEY01 12:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

It is simply because of to mention that whinging genocide issue in every Turkey related article in wikipedia, as if Armenia/Armenians is an important case for the country. SEY01 07:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry

I made a big mistake leaving the computor on while i was away, and it seems like my little brother has been screwing with me. I just want you to know that i had nothing to do with all the vandalizing of the pages. But i excuse for my little brother.

Counter?

Hey Khoikhoi, why don't you get yourself one of those nice little counters where it says "This page has been vandalized X times"? I have recently gotten the impression that you would actually have use for that. :-) Keep up the work, don't let them get you down! Cheers, Krankman 17:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

JCAG/ASALA

Hey Khoi, user:CeeGee contacted me here [6] asking me about an edit I made which is similar to one that you made where you reverted yourself? What I edited is the removal of 2 categories of "terrorist incidents in the 70, 80" from the JCAG page since JCAG is a group and not an incident. - Fedayee 20:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Alright, understandable, thanks for the clearup. - Fedayee 05:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

urartu

because of vandalism of banned user last protected version omit improtant quote in the text of Urartu. please restore to the pre-vandalised version - 08:22, 14 March 2007 Thijs!bot --Dacy69 23:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Newroz

Happy Newroz! Newroz Piroz Be! :)

Ozgur Gerilla 01:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. Never even seen it, I think it isn't enough of suppression, from them, physically they try to do the same virtually now. I just hope they don't delete the babel just for supporting an "illegal" Ideology. Ozgur Gerilla 04:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Kičevo

Can you unprotect Kičevo article? It is protected from 26 January and there is no discussion on the talk page. I want to make some minnor edits in that article regarding connection between town and municipality of Kičevo. PANONIAN (talk) 01:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikimachine

Well, I am now asking you to block Wikimachine. Based on most recent comments, he clearly hasn't learned his lesson. --Nlu (talk) 01:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Khachkar destruction

Hi. I'm not going to pretend that I'm at ease with the decision that I made, but as an admin I have to make a decision, and I made the decision that I think is best for wikipedia and for the editors. I have, at any rate, set the article free from its temporary protection. You're welcome to nominate it for AfD come 1 July, and I promise that I will not adjudicate that AfD nor vote in it (though I may well comment on it). - Richard Cavell 07:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Your administration conduct is disputed

This is an official dispute resolution notice.

I find your decision to block me [7] incorrect, unjust and contradicting to both WP rules and common sense. That is why I demand your official and most public apologies.

Regarding some circumstances of your decision, as well as some other admin decisions of yours, I also seek limitation of your further adminship activities (up to official stripping you off sysop rights), voluntary or ruled out by ArbComm, on the basis of this dispute. The faster you apologize and agree with limitation, the less degree of limitation will I demand.

Further steps of WP:DR procedure will of course be made unless you compromise. Thanks, Ukrained 10:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Şebinkarahisar

I took the time to write the History section of the article [8]. I mentioned the Armenian thing too and gave inter-link but it is not enough apperantly. An Armenian Genocide sub-section is being created again[9].

This is what I wrote to Fedayee:

"It is a part of the history of the city so I mentioned it and gave a direct inter-link to the article. Are you demanding an Armenian Genocide sub-section in every Eastern Turkish city article?"

What do you think?--Doktor Gonzo 14:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Bonny

I think this is him. Can you please verify it? See this and this.   /FunkyFly.talk_  18:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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Check this out the edits are all nearly identical - replacement of Transnistria subcat with a Moldova one. --Illythr 03:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

re: possible trouble

Hi Khoi, their biggest fight seems to have been here, also here. One obvious personal attack was this one--it goes on like that every time these two guys meet. (BTW, I'm pretty sure I'm on one of those talk pages making some snarky comments to Panonian--ignore those, I was mad at him over a past issue and lost my temper, I later apologized and we're cool.) Anyway, it's a nasty situation, I hope you might be able to figure out what to do. K. Lásztocska 19:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

blocking UAE IPs

- Please can you not block UAE IPs. Most connections are required to go throught the same proxy controlled by the country's ISP, and IPs are assigned dynamically...

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Disruptive edits

Khoi, can you please take a look at this [10] this [11]this [12]. Everything article Adil touches turns the article into s___. His incessant intemperative and POV edits are never constructive and always end in locking them up because of his rv wars.--MarshallBagramyan 21:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Marshall, you are the one who does disruptive editing, by placing back (reverting) the POV sources such as "NKR" site, sumgait.nfo, etc. Francis Tyers agreed to their removal, by the way, which once again, doesn't surprize, since they are clearly POV. And while I left other POV, such as books by Armenian authors, since at least they are published books, I did remove the POV amateurish websites. I've outlined why it is you who are in violation of Wkipedia rules here [13] --adil 03:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, what's up.. Hope all is fine. Listen, the problem with those pages is not the simple mention of "Kurdish".. I am cool with the Kurdish-inhabited cat, but this is about a specific expression. There is also the state issue. Kurdistan, and even TRNC, stubs have been deleted in the past for a similar reason: WP:V. It is not even clear what Kurdistan is, let alone that there be a clear concensus on consistently referring to Diyarbakir, Van, Elazig et al as such - Kurdish inhabited, yes. That's all I am saying. Even that map you pointed out uses the "Kurdish-inhabited" expression. Making the jump from that to Kurdistan is OR, no? All the relevant Kurdish-inhabited regions cats should stay, but there are serious WP:V issues with the other cats. That's all. Cheers! Baristarim 01:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was really busy and the only way I could concentrate on real-life stuff was to stay away from the Internet all together :) It is not just Wikipedia.. MSN, surfing etc. Moment I get on it the time seems to fly!

As for the category.. Well, the thing is that it is seriously not overwhelmingly referred to as Kurdistan, let alone Turkish Kurdistan. In many serious works, it is definitely mentioned that Van, Elazig etc is Kurdish-inhabited (but there is also the question that in some of those places depicted on those maps Kurds do not form a majority at all - they just show where Kurds live, not where they are in an overwhelming majority), but not as "Kurdistan". Armenians, Arabs, Assyrians, and for the last millenia, Turks have also been living there, forming a majority in some places. That's why in most serious news releases they are not mentioned as being part of the "Turkish Kurdistan". Diyarbakir article in the intro itself says that, even though it has been considered as a capital of a TR Kurdistan, it is a very contested term that doesn't reflect a concensus. Go on BBC News and make search for any of those cities and anything that comes up will definitely mention the Kurdish population, but not the expression "TR KD" - and definitely not in an affirmative manner like "so our correspondent Mr. X Y was in Elazig the other day, in Turkish Kurdistan", you see what I mean? I am sure that there are sources that mention it as such, but I am also sure that most do not. If we make that jump from Kurdish-inhabited to Kurdistan, and especially to Turkish Kurdistan, then that's OR. However, the opposite would be true for Iraqi Kurdistan, which is regularly referred to as such on top of being an official entity. That's all. In fact, that's what I have been trying to explain at the WP. If it stays at Kurdistan, it will never be anything more than some small fantasy project which will be constantly edit-warring for the banner.

I don't get it though.. When I point this out, people think that I don't like Kurds or something but a POV-title tag has been at TRNC for ages (and at PGG too, to be fair). Anyways... Well, on another note, I thought that the cat "Kurdish-inhabited regions" was chosen after extensive discussion about Kurdistan and et al, no? Baristarim 01:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't implying you in my last comment :) So how are you otherwise? Baristarim 02:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, how can I get around to moving Mor Hananyo Monastery to Deyrülzafarân Monastery? I think that administrator involvement is necessary or maybe I still haven't learned how to override those redirects. Baristarim 10:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

March Days

Just to clarify. In my last edit part of the page did not get loaded well (perhaps because I used Mozilla Firefox). So, you made a correction over that, and the page remained at half, so I corrected the problem. Please, check to make sure your edit is incorporated. Thanks. Atabek 02:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

why is Fadix allowed to remove TWO sources, both of which you personally have been involved with and thus are well on top of, know about them [14] --adil 03:27, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Khoikhoi, are you going to do anything about the edit of Fadix over yours removing the source? If not, then I will be removing "Armenian Genocide" quote from there as well. It has no relation to March Events in Baku anyways. Atabek 08:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it kind of is, as both Fadix and Artaxiad are consistently RVing the page removing the "genocide" quote, the latter even doing it without any reasonable explanation or even reading the main page. Atabek 07:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Category:Kurdistan mediation

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Category:Kurdistan, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible. -- Cat ^chi? 22:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Azerbaijani people

Hello. The Azerbaijani people article must be re-written to conform with encyclopaedia's such as Encyclopaedia of Islam, Encyclopaedia Iranica, Encyclopaedia Britannica, Grand Dictionnaire Encyclopedique Larousse, Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary, and World Book Encyclopedia, as well as what many major scholars say, such as Vladimir F. Minorsky and Richard N. Frye, among many others. There are also the recent genetic tests, which should be taken into consideration. Previously, you mentioned something about undo weight and reverted changes to the article. I assume that it is because you had not known that all major encyclopaedias and many scholars now support the Iranian origin theory and also, but to a lesser extent, the Caucasian theory. Well, I agree, Azeri's are considered a Turkic people, due to our language, but in the origins section, the only theories that should be expressed are those of the Caucasian theory and those of the Iranian theory, which are the only two credible and supported theories. Having the Turkic theory in that section is undo-weight, as it is not accepted by major encyclopaedias and historians. In fact, the whole section on the Turkic theory is pure speculation the way its written, trying to combine things that really dont have anything to do with an origin theory. With your help, I think we can really make the origin section better.Azerbaijani 13:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Azerbaijani people is an FA article. It presents all the existing views in a neutral fashion. Your edits to the History of Azerbaijan are far from neutrality, and I want third party editors to review them. Grandmaster 14:22, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

An article being FA does not mean it cannot be edited or changed. It is not neutral and does not present all the views as they are. The Turkic origin theory is undo-weight, as it is not a supported or acceptable theory anymore (which is why encyclopaedia's dont even mention it). Further more, the article does not express the genetic data or what major encyclopaedia's and scholars have to say about the issues. Also, you accuse my edits to the History of Azerbaijan article no being neutral when previously nothing in the whole section was sourced?!Azerbaijani 15:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

If the "genetic test" is by the Iranian graduate student at Cambridge, that has only been reported by the Iranian state-run news agency, then no, thanks. Likewise, Azerbaijani people are a nation, that progresses and evolves every year, as such, opinion from 50 years ago should be treated accordingly. There are studies both in the West, Russia and the Republic of Azerbaijan that are far more recent and definitive than any quotes from encyclopedia Iranica (which is also Iranian edited), encyclopedia of Islam (which is not verifiable online), Britannica (whose chapter on Azerbaijan is written by an Armenian Suny), and Brokgauz & Efron which is a 100+ year old dictionary that user Azerbaijani cannot even read as its in Russian. --adil 21:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, the usual POV and OR, and the hilarious criticism of the University of Cambridge, Britannica, Encyclopaedia of Islam, etc... it will get you no where Adil.Azerbaijani 17:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

All the above sources have been used and presented in a neutral fashion, I don't see any real problems with the article. It would not be an FA with overwhelming support of third party users, if it had any POV or accuracy issues. Grandmaster 17:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

No they have not. Certain things in the article, specifically in the origin section, that need to be presented as facts are not, and other things which are mere speculation and have no scholarly back up whatsoever are included.Azerbaijani 18:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Kabyle language

Nice work!!! Khoikhoi 06:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks ;-) Agurzil 14:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Mjolnir (comics)

For the record, sprotecting the Mjolnir (comics) page did force the anonymous user to use his actual account, but it didn't stop the edit war. [15] --GentlemanGhost 18:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Bonaparte

You should take a look at this: [16]. Did you notice something wrong? :)) --Öcsi 21:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

And then this [17]. I was right. This guy is Bonaparte. Haha! --Öcsi 21:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

J.Mamedkulizade

Khoi, your revert makes Jalil look like Iranian, which he was not. The wording in the intro and Life sections is not correct and not true to facts. And one POV reference about his family supposedly being from Khoy doesn't make him Iranian. Removing 4 third-party sources while emphasizing one POV source is undue weight. --adil 05:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Kurdistan Workers Party

Khoikhoi, please take a look at references #23 ( [18], unrelated, search for rape, dressed, pkk, or turkey, read the turkey section) and #24, some hr-action search website, I tried to search for Turkish dirty war, no results deniz^T_C 07:46, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

You may be interested in this

Bonny attacks! o_O MaxSem 08:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Two more Bonaparte articles: Napoca (disambiguation), Population of Cluj-Napoca. Biruitorul 17:25, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Tagged both for speedy. MaxSem 18:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

nevruz @ ığdır province

could you please review norouz article before skipping ""turkic people"" from the related sentence. 85.99.216.66 09:46, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't deny that it is celebrated by Turks, I'm just saying that it is traditionally an Iranian holiday. Khoikhoi 06:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Cluj

• Why did you reverted all my edits at Cluj-Napoca? I worked to add about the local Nokia and Ericsson investitions there, to arrange the text and you erased all there. Do you have something personal against Cluj-Napoca economy development?

• I changed the districts from list to a paragraph and you erased it all. Do you know at least something about that subject? Of course not.

• And why do you deleted all the references to main articles? Once again, do you have something personal against developing articles about Cluj city?

No go back and put all my edits back in the article again. and next time before deleting groups of edits from multiple users verify what you are doing and not just click the buttons. --Roamataa 10:04, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

And at Template:PlacesCluj and List of places in Cluj-Napoca why did you deleted the CityHall? --Roamataa 10:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Neutral Third Party

Hello. I really need a neutral third party to give an opinion on the Ganja discussion page and on the Rasulzade discussion page, so as to avoid revert warring.Azerbaijani 13:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of History of Cluj-Napoca. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --Roamataa 18:37, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, but now I have to discover again all my edits. You should have reverted only his/her edits.

The article History of Cluj-Napoca contained infos from the main Cluj-Napoca article and there are other users too that already started to edit that article. Please recover History of Cluj-Napoca, so that it can be corrected and developed - it has no sense to start the article once again. If anyone have something to say on the content, it can edit the article anytime.

And one last question: if bonaparte is banned why can create a new account? It's not my business but are you sure it's the same person? --Roamataa 19:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

76 accounts? Anyway, thanks for the content. I can put it on History of Cluj-Napoca, so that other users can edit it too? --Roamataa 19:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

I would like to thank you for your support in my recent RFA. As you may or may not be aware, it passed with approximately 99% support. I ensure you that I will use the tools well, and if I ever disappoint you, I am open to recall. If you ever need anything, don't hesitate to leave me a note on my talkpage. Thanks again, ^demon^{[omg plz]} 20:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Turkey semi-protect request

Hi Khoikhoi, I hope you're doing well. Can I make a direct request to you to semi-protect Turkey, due to heavy anon vandalism as you are already aware. Or is the correct procedure to always ask for protection on WP:RPP, like I did recently? Best wishes, Atilim Gunes Baydin 22:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I meant a protection against edits by anonymous IPs. That's the one we call semi-protection right? I just noticed that the article seems already semi-protected, but the anons keep editing. I don't get it. Atilim Gunes Baydin 22:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I decided to make a request on RPP a few minutes after I sent you the message and another admin protected the page. Happy editing, Atilim Gunes Baydin 23:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Diem Dispute

Hello Khoi,

You deleted my extensive edits in the article on Ngo Dinh Diem, with instructions to reslove disputes regarding this on the talk page. The message that you left on my page suggested you are some kind of mediator/arbitrator. Accordingly, I am writing to give you my side of the dispute and to request that you restore my edits.

I am new to Wikipedia. My first effort has been to edit an article regarding Ngo Dinh Diem, the ruler of South Vietnam from 1954 until his ouster and assassination in November 1963. The article in place when I started contained many assertions unsupported by authority. Indeed, its heading effectively acknowledged the article's inadequacies. I started filling in the citations and correcting (unsupported) misstatements, using the most recent history available, Triumph Forsaken: A History of the Vietnam War, 1954-1965 written by Dr. Mark Moyar and published in 2006 by the Cambridge University Press, and relying to a lesser extent on a history of the entire Vietnam War written by a journalist named Stanley Karnow. Every assertion I made was supported by one of these two works.

Three times now a user named Youhooboo has deleted my edits and restored the (admittedly inadequate) original in its entirety. This user's first edit summary simply stated "Catholic propaganda" (Diem was a Roman Catholic). The second edit summary said, "Rubbish; Catholics were not a majority in Vietnam," thereby contradicting an assertion I never made. The final edit summary asserted that Dr. Moyar's views do not represent the consensus; however, the original article can hardly be said to represent any consensus, because it cites virtually no authorities, mainstream or otherwise. For that matter, I have made no material changes to any parts of the original that were supported by citation. I would also add that there appears to be no consensus regarding Diem, but that Dr. Moyar's work is thoroughly supported by citations, including American military and CIA reports and Communist histories.

I have left a message on Youhooboo's talk page and invited that individual to respond. Thus far, he/she has declined to do so.

I invite you to compare the two articles. Once you've done that, I would respectfully ask you to either restore my edits or explain to my why Youhooboo's deletions are allowed to stand.VnTruth 12:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)VnTruth.

Good Morning Khoi,

Thanks for getting back to me. Everything you say makes eminent sense. I am going to try to make incremental changes, and I will be careful about portraying Moyar's POV as fact.

Having said that, I must add that I left a message several days ago on Youhooboo's talk page inviting him/her to discuss this matter; his/her only response has been to leave a message on my talk page telling me not to change other people's edits. It doesn't look to me like he/she is interested in talking.

Finally, my friend,I have a question for you. The last user to delete my re-write was not Youhooboo, but you. While it's true that I may have represented Moyar's POV as fact, I at least cited the pages in Moyar's book where he supports that POV. In contrast, the article that you restored asserts other apparent POVs as fact without any attribution whatsoever. So why did you delete my version? --VnTruth 13:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

A few things

Hi, Khoikhoi, a few things:

• Roma minority in Romania: OK, I gave it a shot, just some basic editing. It still has ways to go...
• History of Cluj-Napoca: Ah, that was something! Glad to see the article was restored -- thanks. I put some effort into developing it, I think it has the potential to grow. Also, thanks for the feedback on section breaks -- I'm still thinking of better names for them...
• Soviet occupation of Romania: While researching the history of Cluj-Napoca, and the People's Tribunals set up there right after WWII, I stumbled upon this page, which clearly needs some work done. While trying to find out why there were some tags there, I received some rather strange (and disturbing to me personally) messages on the talk page for that article. Could you please take a look and give me some advice on how to proceed? I tried to argue rationally, but I cannot deal with such a situation; any advice would be welcome. Thanks. Turgidson 03:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Graphic picture

Hey Khoikhoi, I'd like to ask your opinion on something, and possibly your support. Could you look at this and the picture I removed, and my comment here, and tell me what you think about the foto and what I said about enyclopaedic relevance? Am I out of line? Thanks man, cheers, Krankman 13:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Well Solomon, your solution doesn't adress the actual matter of the problem, but I suppose it's a good way to have both sides feel that their wishes are respected. Thanks! Krankman 10:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

AMA case filled against you is under investigation

Hello Khoikhoi

I'm Aeon one of the deputy coordinators for the AMA. This case which you are a party to is under investigation. Please post on my talk page all difs, information and such. Thankyou Æon ^{Insanity Now!} _{Give Back Our Membership!} 23:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Lake Van

Hello, Could you please tell me the relevancy of the sentence that you have reverted my correction in Lake Van articleas follows?

"Later the land around lake was ruled by Armenians. Along with Lake Sevan in today's Armenia and Lake Urmia in today's Iran, Van was one of the three great lakes of the Armenian Kingdom, referred to as the seas of Armenia. "

You know what, it is an Armenian nostalgia other than a cultural history, they were Byzantine/Persian/Seljuk etc. 3 great lakes as well, should we tell about them?

Remember, you had warned me once about noting the independence day not to offend others. Don't you think others offended? SEY01 06:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I think you have missed continuous reverts of Artaxiad in Lake Van article as making pun, putting remarks infront of the changes "source added" "reference" etc. Could you please warn him or shall I inform to someone else? Thanx. SEY01 06:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Ganja

Oh, the usual. Adil is using OR and POV to say that the Pahlavi language is called Middle Iranian, not Middle Persian, even after I have posted a Britannica link to Pahlavi which clearly says its middle Persian, and even after I have shown him the Wikipedia article about Pahlavi. I am also going to bring up Iranica (also, did you see his comment on your talk page in which he says Britannica, Iranica, Encyclopaedia of Islam, etc... are not reliable source? [19] This is really getting ridiculous). He is also using a non Third party non reliable non scholarly source to push a "Turkic theory" regarding the etymology of the name Ganja. He cannot find one third party scholarly source supporting his claim. Adil, Grandmaster, and Atabek and the same users who say no Iranian sources can be used anywhere and always ask for third party scholarly sources, yet when it comes to their own edits, they basically do what ever they want and gang up on me! Thats why I'm asking for a third party to comment on the issue.Azerbaijani 13:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I wont be on Wikipedia till night, so if I dont respond immediately, dont hold it against me :)Azerbaijani 13:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I tried leaving a message on Tombseye's talk page regarding the Azerbaijani people article, but for some reason it would not let me...(my message wouldnt show up). Anyway, I think we should take care of the Ganja article first, as that shouldnt be too difficult to fix, preferably now or sometime today, if you have the time (?).Azerbaijani 18:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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failed move of Arvandrud/Shatt al-Arab

I did some search and found that "Shatt al-Arab" get more hit in news sites. So, despite my POV, I moved it, but failed to move the talk (because it was already there.) so now I am doing what the message said: "Contact an Administrator, but do not just copy and paste the contents.",regards and take care!--Pejman47 18:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I'm "with you" on most things...heck, I've had to undue as much damage from Nisarkand as you perhaps. But your blind revert of this article wiped out some other useful edits, which I'm putting back in, that had nothing to do with which name receives preeminence. Perhaps you're feeling stressed or hurried lately? It seems you're usually more careful.

I hope you would agree that a poll is in order; as noted immediately above, the latter name in your title is used primarily around the world, and much of the river in question is entirely within one country, which uses, again, the latter name. That name should have preeminence. 169.253.4.21 14:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Terrorism in Turkey

If you wish to nominate a category, such as Category:Terrorism in Turkey, for deletion, see WP:CFD. Otherwise, refrain from removing the category from articles on organizations the Turkish government has designated as terrorist as this in no way violates WP:WTA. KazakhPol 20:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Reverts

Are you in a bad mood? :) Listen, I don't understand the point of what happened in Turkish language and Kurds in Turkey. For the first one, I was trying to update the article with better references and a 50 - 74 mil range is not a range, it is more like a sea.. As for the second one, Atilim's edit was very good - and you simply reverted him, not just his wording but even his references formatting without a single word. It was not very cool.. In any case, I don't mind the CIA ref being mentioned: in Atilim's version both sources were given for what they were - it seemed quite reasonable actually.. At least please use the talk page. Take care... Baristarim 05:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

May I ask what is going on Khoi? Why are you doing blind reverts and messing up the referencing formatting that Atilim worked on? Correctly formatting references takes time, it is really not cool. Can you at least use the talk page of the article? Another impartial user also questioned the validity of the CIA figures, what is the reason that you are reverting? I am sorry if I am taking this with a grain of salt, considering what happened at Turkish language. That survey is actually more "anti-Turk" than the Eurostat survey, please see talk. Baristarim 04:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry about the fuss... So, stressed lately? Baristarim 04:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

“South Tibet”

I've nominated the article on “South Tibet” for deletion. Please have another look at the discussion on that article. —Babelfisch 08:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Please post it on my talk page

If you could post it on my talk page. I will be giving my recomendation this weekend. Æon ^{Insanity Now!} _{Give Back Our Membership!} 18:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

AfD

Hi Khoikhoi/Archive 29, this is a message I'm posting to everyone who participated in this AfD. I have nominated the same article for deletion again here – you might be interested. Regards, KissL 08:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Transnistria

Hi Khoi, I saw you made an edit in Transnistria article, where you reverted some of changes supported by many editors (including me). Please look here to understand the reasons of latest changes in the article - most of them are only puting back old info which was part of the article. Please join talk page to discuss changes before reverting. Thanks.--MariusM 23:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Other suck puppets

Salam, I guess these are the Suck puppets of our friends(Patchouli):User:Todya1545 and User:Wiki2Go. Can you please check them.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 06:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Grand Theft Auto IV and Rockstar Advanced Game Engine redirect edits

Talk:Rockstar_Advanced_Game_Engine#Reliable_source
Please see this thread. The engine has been confirmed, and should now merit its own article. —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 17:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Please continue discussion about this on the talk page: Talk:Rockstar_Advanced_Game_Engine —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 02:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

PA?

Hey Khoikhoi, normally I'm not one to complain about what happens here but regarding such comments (scroll to bottom)....I find it very offensive to be called "[You are] an Armenian Joke" which is essentially attacking me because of this edit on the Mustafa Kemal page which OR is removing without any convincing reasons. I would want to know if I did anything wrong but does this not qualify as a PA? With regards, --MarshallBagramyan 22:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello from Saint Helena island

Looks like our mutual acquaintance is up and about again... [20] --Illythr 23:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

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My RfA

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possible vandal

Hi Khoikhoi. Please keep this guy on your watch list. Seems like another sockpuppet of User:NisarKand. At least his activity is very similar to that of NisarKand (example), and he has flooded some articles with POV, for example Latif Pedram. Tājik 12:34, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Meditation

Please tell us who's right here - Hormuzd Rassam. So can I call Sargon I a Iraqi? Chaldean 17:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Tiraspolitan

... not Bonaparte, this time. I got the real identity confirmed from their main account. Seems legitimate. Fut.Perf. ☼ 00:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

About sprotect-banneduser

About your revert at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Sprotect-banneduser&curid=5363028&diff=119380927&oldid=119131486

The idea is that {{pp-semi-vandalism}} is to be used instead of the old protection template, as it's vandalism neither way. _→AzaToth 00:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Is {{pp-semi-sock}} good enough? _→AzaToth 01:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Arvandrud/Shatt al-Arab

Salam, please review the discussions history - User:Ev unilaterally changed the format of the discussion without making the right changes - look at this [21] then this, after I changed things to set things properly [22] (look at the votes section) - had I not made the changes, an admin would think those voting "Oppose" to moving the article (and voting to keep it the way it is) were actually opposing keeping it at the current title! The fact that he keeps his comments opposing keeping it at the current title makes it even look more suspicious [23]. To me it looks like he wanted to influence the outcome in favour of the move, to fool the closing admin. He notified other users involved of the format change, but had they not checked up on it, they would never have known that their votes had inadvertently been changed by the format change. And I should say that the change was not agreed upon by everyone or even most and it was not necessary! In general, when I see this kind of behaviour, I find it disturbing because it is clear that he is trying to influence the end result. I would appreciate if you could keep an eye on the discussion and make sure he does not make such unilateral changes again and prevent other people with an agenda from doing such harm. Merci, Khorshid 02:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Also by these peoples logic (and I wrote this there too), meaning those voting to move only to "Shatt al-Arab", we should move Persian Gulf to The Gulf since almost all sources in UK and Australia call Persian Gulf only as "The Gulf"! And of course since all "The Gulf" Arab countries call Persian Gulf as "Arabian Gulf" then maybe it should be moved to Arabian Gulf! Its silly and contentious. Hopefully Wikipedia admins will see that this controversy is not worth escalating and to to keep things as they are instead of giving in to people with an agenda. I can try to assume good faith but really it seems silly to do that when the current title is as NPOV as it can get. First, the endless nightmare of the Persian Gulf article, and now this one is going to be an endless hazard as well! It never ends. Khorshid 02:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Economy of Romania

Is it Bonaparte there again? Can you check? Thanks.   /FunkyFly.talk_  05:49, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

This time at Romania, the economy section. Thanks.   /FunkyFly.talk_  15:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Tajik is blocked for no good reason

Hello Khoikhoi. I was just on Tajik's talk page about to talk to him about something and I noticed that he is now blocked indefinatly. I read over the reasons and its only that me made a few reverts. He did not even beak the 3RR rule. He just did a few reverts of very obvious vandalism. And then he was blocked. This admin thats doing this I think has something against him and is abusing his admin status. Please try to look into this because he is too valuable of a member to loose. --Behnam 08:42, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I have unblocked them two now temporarily, and as an experiment, opened an request on the newly created Wikipedia:Community enforceable mediation. I told them that they must not engage in any activities right now except the resolution of the request. _→AzaToth 14:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Move request

Hello. It looks like a consensus exists to move Fântâna Albă incident to Fântâna Albă massacre (see talk), but we need an admin to do it. (There is one objector, but I count 7 for a move.) Would you please consider doing this? Thank you. Biruitorul 14:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, of course, the only objector is an avowed Communist who thinks those killed got what they deserved, but all right, I'll make the request. Biruitorul 17:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, not a problem. A poll is now being conducted, for the record. Biruitorul 07:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Mauco

I've reset the original block of 2 months. It certainly looked like a pretty classic case of edit warrior requests unblock/gets mad when it doesn't happen, but if you believe they're Bonaparte, I'll trust your judgment. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 18:29, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

The New Central Asia project page

Hi

I revised (a bit radically) the navigation system of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia. The old page was a mess. You are a member of the project, I would appreciate if you would compare with the old page and give a feedback on the talk page. Thanks. cs 22:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Category:Kurdistan

An arbitration case involving you has been filed. Feel free to comment there. -- Cat ^chi? 13:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Autoblock

Hi Khoikhoi

Please see the autoblock notice in my talk page ... such number is of syrian proxy so it is shared by huge number of users .. please make the block just for unregistered users --Chaos 17:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Oguz1...again

Hello Khoi, i've complained about him before and sorry if it sounds annoying but I will nag once more. He has clearly broken the 3RR rule on anything that has the words "Armenian Genocide" in it. He is going on an anti-Armenian Genocide rampage, and mind I say it, this is nothing but disruption. I am running out of patience on him. [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] ...and so on and so on.

Might I add that this user has been blocked before...for upwards to a week and this has clearly not affected the user. Thank you. - Fedayee 21:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

qazakh

and why revert Qazakh page [31], removing extensively discussed verifiable and scholarly references to Lt-Gen. William Monteith, Movses Khorenatsi, Hovaness Draskhanakertci, Moisey Kalankatuyski (Movses Dasxuranci), among other things? --adil 22:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I just ran into these

Hi.. I just read your post at van province and looked at the Great Fire of Smyrna talk page for the first time in two months. Things really seem to have degenerated into absolute chaos with posts like [32] [33] [34] (I am personally disappointed with the last one, he is an established user that I respect).. Half the comments have nothing to do with article stricto sensu. I really would like to delete most of those posts and archive, and give warnings either in the talk page or to those users - however, since I am Turkish I am afraid of being accused of "pushing POV" of some sorts. I need your opinion on how to proceed - such a talk page working environnement cannot continue and if things don't work out I will have to bring this up at AN/I; something which I am also kinda afraid of doing so as not to be accused as I pointed out above. What do you think? At the very least that talk page needs supervision to literally "to keep the leash tight", no matter who is commenting. Considering the latest furore and ArbCom case for AM-AR editors, I am surprised that there was no ArbCom case or similar about this. Cheers! Baristarim 02:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I will also try to keep a closer eye on that talk page. Since the comments were weeks old, maybe it is better to simply archive and have a fresh start.. Gees, I had no idea that things had gotten that bad at that article! Baristarim 03:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Yikes! Things were really bad then. I definitely agree that the state of the article is provoking more disputes - the article does need a rewrite. However, it will be such a dirty job that no-one wants to do it! As for ArbCom, you are right - things are not that bad.

By the way, I am sorry I couldn't reply earlier.. I was in Israel for only three days when I was younger, with my father. We were in Tel-Aviv and the coast a bit south of Tel Aviv. I suppose it would have been nice to go to the West Bank, but I am guessing my father didn't want to take the risk with, you know, the instability and all. I would like to go there and make a big tour of both Israel and Palestine one day, but I am not holding my breath for that one :) cheers Baristarim 03:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Sébastien de Courtois

Interesting to note that Sébastien de Courtois' book is subtitled The Last Arameans, which was changed to Assyrians, I assume intentionally. (By the way, here's your source about the Arameans, you'd asked about that earlier.) Hence, the source mentioned provides no evidence that all the Syriacs mentioned in the article, are to be considered Assyrians, on the contrary, I'd say. --Benne ['bɛnə] _(talk) 06:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I never assumed you had changed the title. But I just wanted to illustrate the history falsifying methods Assyrianists use to make people believe that Syriacs are actually Assyrians. It's fine if they want to believe that for themselves, but it shouldn't be imposed on people who refer to themselves Aramaeans, Chaldeans, and/or Syriacs. And that's exactly what happens all the time here on Wikipedia. --Benne ['bɛnə] _(talk) 14:36, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

How funny. The same Benne that rampages through non-English wikipedia as proven previously and changes any reference Assyrian to Aramean. Once again, take your agenda somewhere else. It will not be tolerated in the English wikipedia. Chaldean 15:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

One more thing. The Assyrian people page is abundant with unreliable links (such as Wikpedia forks, subjective websites, and the like). However, adding a sources tag to the page, inevitably provokes accusations of being POV, whereas the tag is purely an procedural one. Of course, I contest the content of the article, but I believe the only way of improving its quality, is by forcing contributors to provide verifiable information. If contested information is not backed up with sources within a reasonable timespan, it should be deleted. However, if the tags keep on being removed on apparently subjective grounds, the article will stay in its current deplorable state. Perhaps you want to keep an eye on this issue. --Benne ['bɛnə] _(talk) 14:45, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

On what basis do you consider it reliable? It provides no sources itself, no author. The fact that it is used in other articles, can of course not be an argument for reliability. You might want to check out this evaluation on the Encyclopaedia of the Orient.

My main concern is that questioning the validity of information presented on Wikipedia, is consequently reverted, at least when it comes to the Syriacs. The mere title of Assyrian genocide is POV, for instance. If questionable websites are allowed as a source, anyone can push their point-of-view. --Benne ['bɛnə] _(talk) 20:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh my babo Alaha. I just realized the Encyclopaedia of the Orient is only used for the population statistic of three contries, Syria, Turkey, and Lebanon. You are making such a big deal out of this? These numbers are considered to be an even low estimate and that is why I used them. I dont use Assyrian organization numbers like most ethnic pages do to increase their population number. What is the problem here? Chaldean

RfA thanks

Thank you for your Support on my recent nomination for adminship, which passed with a final tally of 89/1/1. If there's anything I can help with, then you know where to find me. Cheers. - Michael Billington (talk) 06:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

block

hi - could you block User:Atlas87 - confirmed sock - please? Here's the checkuser confirmation that it's a sockpuppet, and here's some background. Thanks very much - he's west coast US, so could be online again tonight. (I'm writing to you because it appears you're online now.) Tvoz |talk 06:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Didn't see it - sorry to bother you! Tvoz |talk 07:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Quick question: can I change a "suspected" to a "confirmed" sock tag on another page, if the account was already confirmed as a sock and already indefinitely blocked, or is that something that only admins can do? I'm talking just about the tag that appears on the user's page. Tvoz |talk 07:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

thanksTvoz |talk 07:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Kanuni...

Thanks. I was going to block him for 3RR (even though I was in the conflict, since he obviously wasn't understanding). I haven't been paying very good attention to Transnistria lately--who is he a sockpuppet of? Lexicon (talk) 19:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Afrika_paprika sockpuppet

Hi

Looks like that the Afrika_paprika is back as EppurSiMuove. I've mihgt be wrong - but judging about the cause he is fighting for - it's obvious him. You have alredy blocked one of his accounts PEpicka

Best regards,

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300

Hi Khoikhoi. Why did you change the lead of 300 (film) to a "fictional account". This is clearly not what its makers and the various experts believe. Of course it's not a documentary, but the answer lies in the middle. Few lines below it is already mentioned that the film is historical fantasy (which by the way has no source). If we are to follow Mardavich's views we'll have to change the lead to "an account from Greek mythology". Miskin 01:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

LOL Miskin ignores the fact that I and many others have pointed out that the film is a fantasy and not semi-historical and have shown sources. This user ignores the fact that even Warner Bros. (whose quote is in the article!) states that the film is pure fiction! Yeah Miskin and Arcayne, keep believing whatever you want, but keep it out of the article! Khorshid 01:50, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Armenia

I've semiprotected it. I think he's actually out of socks, or else the Checkuser nailed them. Hopefully, he'll realize it's not going to stick, no matter how many sockpuppets he pulls, and go away. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 03:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not surprised, people like to pick stupid passwords. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 03:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I know just who to ask on that. (And for reference, that's someone who strongly opposes Stormfront.) If it would be helpful to know, I'll certainly ask for verification. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 03:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Put in another checkuser request for IP check, please throw any additional socks on. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 04:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Racism

This user has racist acts against Turks and Turkish Republic--hnnvansier 09:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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Deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Giovanni Giove. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —KingIvan 11:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Yet another peace attempt

LINK (haha, I'm funny!)? Former Anon was clearly a legitimate sockpuppet. I'll reproduce some text from WP:SOCK so you can see why:

Legitimate uses of multiple accounts

Multiple accounts have legitimate uses. For example, prominent users might create a new account in order to experience how the community functions for new users.

Segregation and security

Other users employ multiple accounts to segregate their contributions for various reasons:

* A user making substantial contributions to an area of interest in Wikipedia might register another account to be used solely in connection with developing that area.

* Someone who is known to the public or within a particular circle may be identifiable based on his/her interests and contributions; dividing these up between different accounts might help preserve the person's anonymity. Users with a recognized expertise in one field, for example, might not wish to associate their contributions to that field with contributions to articles about less weighty subjects. * A person editing an article which is highly controversial within his/her family, social or professional circle may wish to use a sock puppet so that readers unfamiliar with NPOV policy will not assume his/her information edits are statements of personal belief.

Keeping heated issues in one small area

Some editors use different accounts in talk pages to avoid conflicts about a particular area of interest turning into conflicts based upon user identity and personal attacks elsewhere, or to avoid harassment outside of Wikipedia. A person participating in a discussion of an article about abortion, for example, might not want to allow other participants an opportunity to extend that discussion or engage them in unrelated or philosophically motivated debate outside the context of that article.

If you want to edit a "hot" or controversial subject you may use a sock puppet so long as you do not use any other account to edit the same subject or make it appear that multiple people support the same action.

As you can see, with Former Anon, I completely complied with the above - I did not interact with my main account, as that is wrong. I did not create the impression that there was more than one user. I had an account which was used to edit constructively - edits from my main account would be immediately dismissed by fanatical nationalist/racists/bigots, so I needed another, legitimate account to input my thoughts. So, as you can see, no Wikipedia policies were breached at all. I honestly believe that you were quick to block, and quick to accuse, solely because you were on the other side of the Bosnian Muslim dispute; and, if I'm not mistaken, administrators must not block users who they are currently engaged in a dispute with.

I stand by my belief that "Bosnian Muslim" is the correct English term, and I would settle for the articles to say "Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims)". I cannot, however, accept the fact that you block accounts against policy. I cannot accept that you are willing to abuse your admin privileges to gain the upper hand in a dispute. And I cannot accept that you are willing to defend a nationalist/revisionist/vandal like Emir Arven, while at the same time, campaigning against me - an editor who infrequently edits Wikipedia, an editor who makes very minor edits (albeit, sometimes controversial ones), and editor with a good sense of humour, an editor with a ready willingness to forgive and forget. I just can't understand this "anti-Ivan Kricancic sentiment" of yours.

But, as I said above, I am ready and willing to forgive and forget. I will accept the end of my AMA request, and the end of Emir Arven's RFC, if:

• Emir Arven will just leave the issue at this stage, stop attacking me, and stop provoking me.
• You (Khoikhoi) will agree to take me and my opinions seriously, and will stop immediately dismissing opposing views.
• All three of us (You, me and Emir) agree to just "shut up". That is, we all just stop talking about this current, ongoing dispute (which is mainly between Emir and myself), try to forget about it, and try to move on.

I feel that the dispute in which I am currently involved with Emir is extremely stupid - mostly because of the fact that I am an infrequent and minor editor, and there is this huge dispute. I would just like all of us to forget about this and move on. —KingIvan 10:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Derbent

Hi! I googled a little, and found a Lezgi forum, where they wrote the city's name as "Дербент". I hope this is okay as a source. I'll add it to the Derbent article and try to find the Tabasaran form later. — N-true 11:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

As we say in Turkish, the fox eventually ends up in the fur shop

What can I say, I have a short fuse. I must find a way of preventing Wikipedia from pissing me off. Maybe relaxing with articles such as this. Thank you for the touchy goodbye message, I hope it wasn't a bloody standard e-mail you send to everyone. Laters.--Doktor Gonzo 13:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Tags

Salam. Please check that whether I've used correct tags in these pictures or not?

• Image:Higherself.jpg
• Image:Rdance.jpg
• Image:Tavern1.jpg
• Image:Rumi concert nazeri.gif

--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 17:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I forgot

I totally forgot to give you this before I leave. Don't forget what I told you in the past, don't give up to vocal users. :) Oh and forget about Adil's RfC, he's pursuing his personal vendetta against you.

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For your general work to maintain articles integrity. Fad (ix) 17:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)