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Throne of Glass: Strengths: Balanced Coverage-there is balanced coverage between the first book and the series; it is just not very well organized. Also, there is no coverage on Wikipedia that I can see for the other books, so it seems they should either have their own pages or be included here. I would be inclined to think the pictures have been plagiarized as well. Content is fairly neutral. It is overall not presented in an opinioned way. Most of the sources seem to be neutral, except there are several author interviews used. An author of a book is not a neutral source on that book. Weaknesses: Lead-unclear whether this page is about the series or the first book, because they both have the same title. Though it seems to be about the series, the lead only presents a summary of the first book. I am fairly sure this is plagiarized. The layout again jumps between book and series in an unclear way. For example, only characters from the first book are discussed in paragraph form, in a way that is not very fluent. Later on, there is a table with most of the main characters from the entire series. One is missing. There are many sources, but some of them are by the person who wrote it. Others are casual websites. Some sources however; like book reviews, and quite legitimate.

This page was begun on February 24, 2012. This was before the book was even published. For that reason, there are fewer sections. The Characters section, for example, was added later closer to when the book had come out. There were no pictures and only six sources. James26 was the main contributor and was very involved. By August 1, notability had been established, meaning there were enough useful sources. There are 16 cited, but I would argue that about five or six of them are credible. This was the day before the book was released. The person who created this page seems to have gotten the book early, and maybe even read it early, because he mentions some things about the romantic entanglements of the characters that I doubt would have been advertised that way, so it makes me wonder whether he has a bias. From the start, the article had some of the exact same sentences, particularly in the lead, that it does now. I think most of the original information about the first book has been preserved, but merely added to as more books were published. That is why the first book has so much more information and why it is disorganized. No significant changes have been made since the August 1, except the addition of more information about the series as it becomes available and information about a possible TV series, which has increased the number of citations to 24. Other users are seeing some of the same problems I am and have been going through for years and making minor adjustments to the tone of the piece. In October 2016 there were some big edits, the last book to date had come out that summer, and people added more characters as they became available. The most consistent writer during this period was “TheNightCourt” which is a setting in another book series by the same author, so this person is clearly a fan. Another contributer around this time is Mariabajwa. James26 has not been involved since November 2015. The most recent edit was 26 March 2016, but at this time edits to both content and grammar seem to be small. The talk page has not been used at all. It is a start class page of low importance to both WikiProjects Novels / Fantasy and WikiProjects Children’s Literature. It is also noticed by WikiProjects Women Writers, but is not ranked in terms of importance.

Prince Dorian is presented as a suitor for Celaena as well. However, their relationship is complicated by his status as the crown prince.[1]

Kematt1203 (talk) 19:11, 29 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Prince Dorian is presented as a suitor for Celaena as well. However, his background ultimately leads to them facing obstacles of their own.[2]

Kematt1203 (talk) 19:13, 29 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Brainstorm edit

Brainstorming: 15 ideas: The Assassin’s Blade Crown of Midnight Heir of Fire Queen of Shadows Goodreads The Great Sand Dunes National Park Millennium Carillon A ritmo de cambio The Methodist Hymnal Kevin McChesney Piano technique Pipe Organ Encounters Barbara Lister-Sink Dan Locklair Dairy Hut My favorite option in Crown of Midnight, the second book in the Throne of Glass series. No books beyond the first have been covered on Wikipedia yet, though this book was published in 2013. Summaries and reviews are readily available online though this book has never used in scholarship research. The book is notable because it is the sequel to a New York Times best seller and is also scheduled to be the basis of a TV show. I would say that sources for this article could potentially be found by looking up the English department website at Hamilton College in New York, which is where the author attended, majored in creative writing, be began working on the book. Perhaps that website would have information about notable alumni and their work. Additionally, the author began the book series on Fictionpress.com. We could go there and see if that website provides any information about the creation of the series. It could be linked to the author’s page, “Sarah J. Maas,” the page for the first book, “Throne of Glass (novel),” and the page for the series, “Throne of Glass,” which claims to be about the whole series but mostly discusses the first book. --Kematt1203 (talk) 18:07, 3 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

  1. ^ Maas, Sarah (December 15, 2008). "What I'd Write, Dogs". sjmaas.livejournal.com. Retrieved August 1, 2012. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  2. ^ Maas, Sarah (December 15, 2008). "What I'd Write, Dogs". sjmaas.livejournal.com. Retrieved August 1, 2012. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)