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Latest comment: 7 years ago by 101.182.117.21 in topic Lupton family
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iPort

Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Variation_in_citation_methods .. Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference

Your most recent edit to iPort changde from one citation style to another, with no apparent reason.

Additionally in doing so you broke the Harvard referencing.Zn3N2 (talk) 15:40, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

20:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

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Park Hill, Sheffield

Thanks for the reassessment- would you like to elaborate what you wish to see improved.

The criteria say: that a Start class article is: The article has a usable amount of good content but is weak in many areas. Quality of the prose may be distinctly unencyclopedic, and MoS compliance non-existent. The article should satisfy fundamental content policies, such as BLP. Frequently, the referencing is inadequate, although enough sources are usually provided to establish verifiability. No Start-Class article should be in any danger of being speedily deleted.

Which areas do you find to be weak- where does it break MoS compliance. Which part of the referencing is inadequate?

I have checked again the B1-B6 criteria, and put a tick against each one. Sometimes we have aspiration for aspects of quality that are not actually mandated. I don't view this primarity as a county article but an architectural one so I may be overlooking something absolutely basic. --ClemRutter (talk) 22:26, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I was toying with giving it a C-class but thought that may be some of the formatting on the article need to be looked at. In the references the use of italics for newspaper titles, such as the Guardian. Needs some dashes replacing by en-dashes, for example in the Background section. There are a few problems with strange breaking after numbers that could do with some non-breaking spaces to keep things together. A bare URL for ref 18. There also appears to be some dated information in "Listing and renovation" where it notes "...social housing is now underway" but the references are from 2009. Could do with some update or something to indicate it is still current, may be an as of 2016. Nothing major there, a few more references mainly at the end of the Arts section would get this up to a B-class. Keith D (talk) 09:42, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

23:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

16:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

18:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Edits white-washing UK

I am puzzled by the massive number of edits you have made, using slightly ambiguous edit summaries such as "overlinking & unnecessary", removing UK or United Kingdom from the birthplace field in infoboxes. Firstly, the template infobox documenation suggests including the "country" - commonly known to mean "sovereign state". Secondly, I believe a de facto consensus exists against your edits. A very length RfC with wide participation was held on this subject at Talk:Jeremy Corbyn, which resulted in an overwhelming consensus in favour of using "UK" in the infobox for birthplace (eg Chippenham, Wiltshire, England, UK). Do you have any rationale behind your edits? AusLondonder (talk) 15:25, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

I am utterly astounded by the sheer scale of how many edits you have made doing this. AusLondonder (talk) 01:11, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
I am disappointed that you felt that you must revert my changes while I was away without waiting for a reply.
To explain, apart from 1 change, I was reverting out changes made by an IP who hops around and keeps adding England/Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland plus UK, wikilinking both, linking the UK to the various varieties of it used through history. Though some are from previous visits by the IP to the article in question rather than their latest visit. I am one of a number of people who do the reverting out of this change from the said IP. You will see others using edit summaries such as "europe, earth, the solar system, the milky way; WP:OVERLINK". The others usually just perform a revert, but I tend to just remove the location changes as their other edits tend to be appropriate changes, such as capitalisation.
There is consensus not to link countries, which makes things difficult for UK as it could be various things depending on the time frame of the article in question. There is no consensus for using UK or not using UK, the consensus is not to keep changing it, similar to date formats and English variety, as this IP is doing, thus it is appropriate to reverse their changes. Keith D (talk) 09:15, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
If you had simply de-linked the country I would have raised no concerns. I think the RfC should be seen as a weak consensus in favour of always having UK in the infobox (the same as U.S.) as no contrary consensus exists and it seems to be supported by the template documentation. I apologise if my initial comments sounded abrupt AusLondonder (talk) 09:22, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

16:19, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Mary Boleyn

Hi Keith Please do a general check on the page Mary Boleyn - it was very hard to edit on my phone. As always, thanks in advance. M.E. Reed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.189.0.102 (talk) 12:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

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20:51, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

82.112.144.10

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Adding & n b s p ;

Hi Keith, it's been a long time since I bothered you, so I thought I'd give it a go! I've seen people adding this text inbetween a number and the word million lots of times & n b s p ; (my spaces). I've tried looking for a WP to relate to what it does, but have come up blank. What is it for? Hope you are well, Best wishes.The joy of all things (talk) 18:30, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I see you have been working through the errors in articles, I am still catching-up on changes from my watchlist from break. The & n b s p ; is a non-breaking space that prevents a browser inserting a line break at that point and causing strange rendering. Numbers and units should always be held together with non-breaking spaces to make them read better when rendered. Keith D (talk) 18:44, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Keith. Yes, I have been trying to get the number of articles that need attention down as much as possible, but some are so tricky.... (and work gets in the way!) Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 18:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @The joy of all things: in mainspace we have List of XML and HTML character entity references for such codes; they’re also documented on the W3C site.—Odysseus1479 18:59, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

18:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Dead links Black Magic (Little Mix song)

Hi, thanks for moving the dead link tags out of the template – sorry for placing them in the wrong position, I wasn't sure where they should go. My worry is that the links don't flag up at all now in normal viewing mode, you have to view the text in editing mode to see them, so there will now be no incentive to fix them. Richard3120 (talk) 13:06, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I was expecting them to show, thinking it was a normal {{cite web}} template that was generating the error message. Looks rather complicated as the URL is generated from the other fields, so if it is dead then one of the completed fields must be wrong or the template needs changing to fix the generated URL, could affect a large number of articles that use the {{Certification Table Entry}} template if that is the case. Keith D (talk) 16:30, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Looking further the Irish charts quoted end in 2013 so a 2015 entry in the article is obviously wrong or invented by someone. Keith D (talk) 17:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
It isn't invented – the band's record label tweeted that they had received that platinum award, and somebody has therefore added it using the template, not realising that the template no longer works for Ireland (or for the Netherlands or for Sweden – the old websites where they used to be located have stopped publishing certifications). I would like to comment out the template entry for these countries for now and let people enter the awards manually if they can find a reliable alternative source, but I haven't worked out yet where the pointer is in the template or any of its helper templates that provides the link to the certification website for a particular country. Richard3120 (talk) 18:22, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
May be you could contact one of the template maintainers to see if they could help. Keith D (talk) 18:29, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
This is an issue I'm involved with at the moment, and it's the reason I put the dead link tags on in the first place: the editor who originally coded the template has retired from Wikipedia, and the editors who are still active in this topic are not coders... I'm currently trying to get some help from experienced coders because a lot of information in this template is now out of date and urgently needs revising. Richard3120 (talk) 19:09, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

19:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the Fix

Thanks for that fix on the date citation on the Bill Backer page. Seriously, I could NOT figure out what the problem was...apparently, I was looking in the wrong place. --PoughkeepsieNative (talk) 23:46, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Gentleman's farm

Please see if new edits are all OK Thanks so much as usual from a Yorkshire enthusiastSrbernadette (talk) 11:30, 25 June 2016 (UTC) Mike

  Done Keith D (talk) 18:18, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Landed property

Please see if new edits are OK Thanks as usual. Srbernadette (talk) 11:28, 25 June 2016 (UTC) Mike

  Done Keith D (talk) 18:19, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks so much 101.182.117.21 (talk) 13:01, 25 June 2016 (UTC) Mike

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

I see that ref number 3 on this page does not have the journlist's name in it. His name is Christopher Wilson. can you please put it in the ref. and please leave the quote in ? Thanks again so much 101.182.117.21 (talk) 13:01, 25 June 2016 (UTC) Mike

  Done Keith D (talk) 18:21, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

15:42, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Lupton family

Please tweak - I have added a new ref with quote. Please leave in quote. Then I have almost finished the Yorkshire stuff! Thanks so much Keith101.182.117.21 (talk) 10:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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