User talk:Keahapana/Archive 9

Happy New Years!

Hi! "Reduce the scope!" my teachers/professors used to tell me regarding my thesis topics, when I was going to school, the previous millenium (Geeze how fast a thousand years flies by!) Anyway Monkey (Chinese mythology) remains to be done, last I checked. However, I did start a reduced scope topic: Simians (Chinese poetry), which is kind of exploration in that direction. Hope all's well, Dcattell (talk) 10:49, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, I had the same problem in grad school, and (as you've seen from some WP articles) still do. Your Simians (Chinese poetry) looks good, and I made a few minor corrections. Thanks also for your useful additions to the hanshisan article. I haven't had much time lately for WP but did make a rough outline for a more general "Monkeys (Simians?) in Chinese culture" article. I'll try to get something together today or tomorrow. Best wishes for the new year. Keahapana (talk) 20:26, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Of course Wang's description of his place is just about a perfect description of his domicile using the most exacting terms of perfect traditional humility: therein lies his deceptively simple yet profound and subtle humour, and thereby he can get away with his commentary on the simians noising around his estate! I'm not sure at what stage the Simians (Chinese poetry) was when you looked at it, whether I'd added the Kuimen monkey pic: I'm sure it's a macaque, not a gibbon (I found it looking for Kuizhou/Kui Perfecture file pictures). I think, now anyway, Monkey (Chinese mythology) sounds better than Simian (Chinese mythology); although both should be made, one as a redirect. I am thinking that Monkey is more traditional (and rules out human simians, although in poetry this is obviously not the case!) -- also cf. Monkey (zodiac) and Waley's translations under the title of Monkey. Cheers! Dcattell (talk) 03:05, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

P.S. Oh yeah, and someone might think Simian mythology was about Simian Shan!

Yes, <grin> and Simian Mountain is located above Monkey Mountain. Keahapana (talk) 01:09, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

More monkey business!

Hi, I was going to leave you a message on your talk page here, when I saw some zealous robot had left you a message about Monkeys in Chinese culture. Article looks good, at a first glance! Anyway, by a strange coincidence, I've been running into monkeys in some of the articles which I have been contributing to, like Imperial examination in Chinese mythology and Kuizhou. I kept encountering your work in related articles. Made me think of dropping you a line. Best wishes (and I am looking forward to reading about monkeys in Chinese culture after this), Dcattell (talk) 09:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

PS: I do think that for the title "culture" is indeed better than "mythology", since culture kind of gets around some of the problematic categorical differences between "religion", "folk religion", "mythology", "symbology", et cetera. Dcattell (talk) 10:07, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Chinese monkeys are fun to research. I went back and forth over titles but "culture" is most inclusive, allowing the present article to later be split (what's the metaphor, give birth to?) into some daughters. Nice, I like both your Imperial examination in Chinese mythology and Kuizhou pages. I found a copy of Bernard Read's 1931 Bencao gangmu translation about monkey drugs, which I will add next. Best wishes, Keahapana (talk) 01:39, 2 March 2014 (UTC)