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which article did I inappropriately edit? Jugwinder20 (talk) 19:03, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I can't speak for other articles, but I just undid you on Indo-Canadians since your claim that Gujaratis are the second-largest group of Indo-Canadians contradicts the cited source. Meters (talk) 19:59, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Gujaratis are the second largest group Jugwinder20 (talk) 20:01, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Not according to the cited Canadian census source. That's the point. You are making a claim that directly contradicts the reliable source that the article cites. If you cannot be bothered to even look at the sources you should not be making such edits. Meters (talk) 20:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

After Punjabi, the next Indo-Aryan language with most speakers is Urdu, which would imply as a language of mostly Pakistanis. Hindi follows, but there are multiple ethnic groups who speak Hindi. Gujaratis are therefore the next largest Indian ethnic group. Jugwinder20 (talk) 20:19, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Go look at the source yourself. If it's not the Gujaratis, which group is the second largest population of Indian Canadians? As most Urdu speakers are Pakistani, they won't count, and most Hindi speakers come from various ethnic groups and states, they wouldn't count either. Jugwinder20 (talk) 20:25, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'm not going to argue this with you. Read WP:OR. Meters (talk) 20:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

It seems like you can't answer my questions or provide an answer. Jugwinder20 (talk) 20:28, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Can you not provide a reasonable answer? Jugwinder20 (talk) 20:30, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

This is an academic discussion. As a member of the Indian Canadians community, I would say my points have been validated. They have not been proven as incorrect as you suggested. Thank you and good day. Jugwinder20 (talk) 20:33, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Again, read WP:OR. That is your answer. Meters (talk) 20:43, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
 
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I just think you don't know too much about ethnicity or the Indian Canadian community. Anyways, no point of continuing this conversation since you don't have a definite answer. Jugwinder20 (talk) 20:47, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

You were given a definite answer several times. To the point that I worry WP:IDHT applies here. How many more times do you expect to be linked to WP:OR before you understand that is your definite answer? --Yamla (talk) 20:57, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Seriously. I read the census and Gujaratis are the second largest community of Indian Canadians. How is that original work? Jugwinder20 (talk) 21:02, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Excellent. Please show where you cited this information in your edits, as you are required to do. Which specific edits that you made included this citation to the census? You can find your list of edits here. You'll also need to address your inappropriate edit summaries. --Yamla (talk) 21:05, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

For sure. I'll add the citation now. Am able to do so, or am I still blocked? Jugwinder20 (talk) 21:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

You are still blocked. You need to make a new unblock request (WP:GAB explains how) and address the concerns which lead to your block. You have most certainly not addressed these concerns yet. This will be my last response to you; another admin will review any future unblock request. --Yamla (talk) 21:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
(ec)The cited census does not show that the Gujaratis are the second largest community of Indian Canadians. It states that it is the third largest Indo-Aryan language spoken in Canada. The rest is the user's WP:OR. And this edit is not why the user was blocked. As I said, I can't speak to the other edits that led to the block. Given the apparent difficulty understanding the issue with this one edit this may be WP:CIR Meters (talk) 21:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Going by your argument, where does the cited census take Punjabis to be the largest group of Indians? This is going on the fact that Punjabi is the largest Indo-Aryan language, but says nothing about ethnicity. Jugwinder20 (talk) 21:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I didn't add the material or the original ref, but since you've pointed out the problem I've improved the ref to one which does specify ethnicity. Meters (talk) 01:24, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

In the source you provided it says East Indian with 1,374,715 is the main ethnic group for Indian Canadians. You can't say Punjabis are the majority Indian Canadian population as this reference does not state this. Jugwinder20 (talk) 02:27, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

This text must be deleted as in the reference it can not be proven Punjabis are the largest Indian Canadian group, as the most replied answer was "East Indian". Jugwinder20 (talk) 02:30, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Fine, have it your way. They are the largest group by language, and the largest specifically named East Indian ethnicity, but I've removed it completely. I don't know that it belongs in the lead, and I really don't care if we mention it in the article at all. I'm tired of all the to and fro editing and fake numbers associated with similar edits on various East Indian groups in Canadian demographic articles. Meters (talk) 05:06, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'm glad I proved my point. Good day Jugwinder20 (talk) 05:10, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Not sure what you think you proved... your improperly sourced or WP:OR claim about Gujaratis is not in the article, you are still indefinitely blocked. As I said, I'm tired of the incessant to and fro over which particular East Indian language/religion/ethnicity is better/more common/more important in Canada. Meters (talk) 06:52, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

As a member of the Indian Canadian community, I'd like to see all diverse groups represented in this article. However, it's better this section was deleted as the claims could not be proven for both Punjabis and Gujaratis with the reference provided. Jugwinder20 (talk) 11:39, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I used the data on language to justify why Punjabis and Gujaratis would be the first and second largest groups (as Hindi and Urdu can represent multiple groups, so they do not count as ethnicity). Punjabi and Urdu are both also spoken in Pakistan and so their is overlap with Pakistani Canadians who can make those numbers higher. Overall, this was not an adequate enough method or source to use in regards to ethnicity. I'm satisfied that the statement on largest group has been deleted. I would also advise that you take a rest from Wikipedia since you are so tired. Jugwinder20 (talk) 11:46, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply