User talk:Jonteemil/Archives/2022/April

Explaining

I patrolled your page. I went through the enormously-backlogged list of newly-created pages and confirmed that your page was okay: not spam, not an attack page, not a copyright violation, not any of the other reasons for which I would delete someone's page without asking. Then I clicked "patrolled" to remove it from the list of "pages that have not yet been patrolled", and moved on to the next entry. That's all. DS (talk) 19:29, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Okay. Then I see. Thank you for the explaination!Jonteemil (talk) 19:31, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Sorry

Misclicked. The dangers of single clock rollback... Happy editing, —Kusma (t·c) 15:51, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

No worries :). Happens to me too every now and then over at sv.wikt. as well.Jonteemil (talk) 16:18, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of images

Just a friendly heads up. I just declined a bunch of speedy deletion requests you placed on images because "found a better one" isn't a valid speedy deletion reason for an image. If you think those images should go, list them at Files for discussion. Cheers! ----Fabrictramp | talk to me 03:22, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@Fabrictramp: To my understanding it isn't allowed under fair use legalisation to have more than one logo version, that's why I suggested the worse versions be deleted. Is there something regarding fair use legalisation that I may have misunderstood?Jonteemil (talk) 04:08, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Sounds like you were going for WP:F1 or WP:F8 then. A good rule of thumb is it's always best to use the specific criteria, because we don't know what you're thinking when we come across the request and we still have to fit it into one of the existing criteria.----Fabrictramp | talk to me 21:23, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

File:BunningsWarehouseLogo.svg

You cropped the logo of BunningsWarehouse.

I understand it as a trial to prevent the copyright issue (in good faith).

But cropping a logo is a copyright infringement as surrounding space is integral part of the logo.--OuiQui (talk) 21:01, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@OuiQui: I don’t believe the surrounding space is an integral part of the logo, hence not a copyright infringement. What makes you think the surrounding space is an integral part of the logo?Jonteemil (talk) 23:42, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

The law and the legal claims: I know at least a company won a claim because the logo was too close to others. I believe it was Apple but I can't find it. See logo usage guidelines at 99designs and Apple logo guidelines, page 10. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OuiQui (talk • contribs) 18:24, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Use of Template:di-disputed fair use rationale

The arguments of {{di-disputed fair use rationale}} should not have italic markup (''), as in your edit of 10:45, 19 March 2020 of File:JagsFound.gif. This markup breaks the template, giving unintended results and causing misnested tag with different rendering in HTML5 and HTML4 lint errors. I removed the italic markup in File:JagsFound.gif. —Anomalocaris (talk) 06:09, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: Okay, thx.Jonteemil (talk) 08:11, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

NSYNC cover removals

Hi, I have noticed that three of the NSYNC covers that I have uploaded have been marked for removal, as it has not met WP:NFC criterion. I am unsure about how specific you want my rationales to be before the notices are able to be removed, as they were specifically written in order to comply with CSD F7. The template's page also doesn't have adequate information for me to understand when files are able to be marked, which makes it difficult for me to understand why the files uploaded are disputed. Can you clarify the reasons behind marking the files as disputed, as well as re-checking my updated rationales to determine whether it satisfies the non-free criteria. I am writing this on your talk page, as I feel that writing the same paragraph on multiple file talk pages is mundane and consists of the same problem. Thank you. — Angryjoe1111 (talk) 14:39, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I don't think there is a need to have two different album covers on the same page. If you don't agree you can open a "File for discussion".Jonteemil (talk) 15:05, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

In regards to the files that are about to be deleted on April 3, are you able to remove the disputed templates on each file until the discussion here has concluded? It would save me a lot of time from attempting to recover it at the undeletion request page if consensus is for the files to be kept, and would most likely be deleted before consensus has been given. I also saw in the discussion that you were interested in creating a template for Template:Infobox album#Template:Extra album cover. How much progress have you made on it so far? It would be easier for users to navigate through it since it is not connected to a pre-existing template, and would probably reduce the number of non-free single/album cover disputes at Files for Discussion. — Angryjoe1111 (talk) 19:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Can you remove the three disputed templates from the following files? The bots at 'Files for discussion' are closing discussions of deleted files due to a misunderstanding where files were decided to be deleted after discussion, where consensus for the three files seems to be that the covers are to be kept on the articles. If by any chance they are removed, is it possible for you to recover them at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion by using the 'Files for discussion' page as a rationale? Thank you. – Angryjoe1111 (talk) 13:31, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Broken redirect

I saw your post before you removed it. meta:Help:Redirect#Restrictions says it doesn't work. Wikipedia:AFD/Latest could instead redirect to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/Today. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:35, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Yeah, I found that exact page so therefor I removed it :). Do you know if these redirects should be deleted? I'm thinking of opening a WP:Redirects for discussion about it otherwise.Jonteemil (talk) 01:38, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't know any guideline or practice. Wikipedia:Soft redirect is another possibility. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

@Primehunter: Yeah, that's probably the best option, thanks.Jonteemil (talk) 01:45, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

PK Sports

Qazi Shah (talk · contribs) was a sockpuppet of SheryOfficial (talk · contribs) and as such was blocked at the time PK Sports was created. Qazi Shah was also already tagged as a sock of SheryOfficial when you removed the G5 placed by Spike 'em. Please be more careful with the undo button.

Spike 'em, Twinkle allows you to name the sockmaster when tagging with a G5 nomination. Please use that option. It'll help prevent further misunderstandings. Cabayi (talk) 18:12, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@Cabayi: That actually makes totally sense. I don't know how I didn't think of that. When I read CSD G5 and thought to myself "How would a blocked user be able to create a page?" I somehow didn't think of the use of socks...Jonteemil (talk) 18:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Saif Ben Ammar

Hello Jonteemil. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Saif Ben Ammar, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: needs to stay for attribution really. . Thank you. GedUK  07:56, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

I see.Jonteemil (talk) 20:18, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Signature in talk page

Thank you sooo much :) In fact I'm on wiki from some time now, but I didn't know that 😓. It was a really big help, many thanks. Rhinen (talk) 08:20, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rhinen: No worries :).Jonteemil (talk) 10:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_May_7#Category:Wikipedia_images_in_SVG_format

In closing (especially regarding CFD, where it's not just about deletion), "keep" simply means that the proposed action is not done, or in other words, to keep the status quo. I didn't see a consensus to rename per your nomination, so I closed as keep. This is especially in light of the fact that your CFD would reverse a prior CFD, which should require a substantive consensus to overturn. But since there were no real stated positions in either direction, I'm willing to overturn my closure and give it a relist instead to allow further discussion. bibliomaniac15 17:49, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Former old logos category

It is best to not put pages in categories that do not exist. The category will "work" but it won't be connected to any other categories. However, having a category for Category:Former or old logos is a good idea, so I created it and made it a sub-category of Category:Wikipedia images of logos.

Most former logos are non-free content can only be used in wikipedia if the use qualifies under Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. The most common way is if an article or section of an article is about the logo itself and there is a reliable source to back up what is discussed. Even then, it may still not qualify. Logos that were in use in the United States prior to 1923 and a few other logos are in the public domain or they have been published under a "free" license. Most commonly these would be from teams and leagues that folded prior to the mid-1970s and whose copyright lapsed due to non-renewal or whose copyright was never properly registered. These logos can be hosted on the Wikimedia Commons.

You can learn more about Wikipedia's category system at Wikipedia:Categorization. You can learn more about copyrights at Wikipedia:Copyrights. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:45, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Davidwr: The reason I categorized files in it was to have them reviewed for deletion. JJMC89 has marked most logos for deletion.Jonteemil (talk) 20:55, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Link

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Bunch of files in Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming

I have to give you that link (hands are tied), even though you're not in trouble or anything. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:58, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: I have to say that I think that you are making a very big chicken of a very small feather. Why so rushy?Jonteemil (talk) 20:02, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

wikt:van een mug een olifant maken? I don't know how long it will take to change the guideline. Could be months? And all that time, it will be more difficult to find new requests in a sea of requests that aren't supposed to be completed in Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:08, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes, on the first question. Very small mosquito, very big elephant.Jonteemil (talk) 20:10, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I just don't want to lose my file mover rights, and I also don't want the category to be very difficult to navigate. The problem probably isn't going to solve itself without taking weeks or months. I understand it's easy for you, you're not a file mover, so you have no reason to be bothered by a flooded maintenance category. Do you know a better solution? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:15, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

In the future, before adding 100+ pages to a maintenance category that is maintained by humans, perhaps ask at the VP first. It might be controversial or in some cases it could be a bot task. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:14, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: If I wouldn't have been sure they all would be non-controversial I would have done that. But since I already had requested a few renamings, and they all went through, I figured there would be no problem. I would have done the same thing again, and I would say I have policy on my side.Jonteemil (talk) 20:26, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: I saw the rename requests went through, but ASFIK policy hasn't been updated. How should interpret this? Yes or know to my proposal at WT:File names#Addition of criterion?Jonteemil (talk) 21:19, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Neither. I hadn't gotten to removing the requests and in the meantime Emperork performed the renames. Consensus seems to lean towards thinking double extensions are already covered by WP:FNC#5 but not everybody agrees. At least it seems nobody will punish file movers for fulfilling such requests, but more input is needed to update the policy guideline. IMHO the examples of WP:FNC#5 suggest the criteria is for content errors, not necessarily technical errors. That's not to speak of "Adidas SVG logo.svg" which doesn't seem like an error at all to me, just redundant information.

If you were planning on requesting more renames like this.. No. Wait for consensus on the proposal. As I told you back then, that could take weeks or months.

If you were planning on requesting 20+ renames, deletions or anything else at once for any other reason.. Announce your plans first. Feel free to ping me in your announcement. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 03:44, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

File notifications

I noticed that you started discussions at WP:FFD for over 200 logos. Since the files are still in use in the article, you need to go back to each of these articles and add a deletable image caption that link to the discussions to gain as much possible input as possible. WP:FFD usually does not get 200 files in a week and you added that many in one day, so I would advise you in the future to limit the number of discussions you start there because it has probably overwhelmed the low number of editors who participate in the discussions. Aspects (talk) 20:05, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@Aspects: I agree that would have been optimal but I don't know how to automate addition of {{FFDC}} to every use of the logos. But WP:FFD says: "If the image is in use, also consider adding {{FFDC|File_name.ext|log=2024 May 12}} to the caption(s), or adding a notice to the article talk pages. Consider also notifying relevant WikiProjects of the discussion." and I don't interpret this as a demand, but rather a suggestion. If it would have been a demand I wouldn't have done all the FFD noms.Jonteemil (talk) 16:49, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Govvy (talk) 10:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. GiantSnowman 10:25, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

To spare you confusion: There is only one discussion. It was started at AN, then was moved to AN/I. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 11:06, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

File:Brazilian Football Confederation logo.svg

Hi Jonteemil. I'm wondering if you remember while you uploaded this file. Was the badge/logo updated in some way? The previous version of this file (File:Cbf brazil logo.png) was a png that seemed perfectly OK to use. Was the only thing you did was to convert the file to svg? Often with non-free logo files, it's better to use non-vector version of the file per WP:NFC#Multiple restrictions unless the copyright holder has released a vector version of the file.

This file, in particular, is one that was discussed quite a few times over the years at WP:NFCR and WP:FFD and a record of those discussions was placed on File talk:Cbf brazil logo.png. When you created the svg version and replaced the png file with it, the png version became orphaned and it's talk page was deleted per WP:G8. For future reference, it would probably be a good idea for you to check the file's talk page and see if there was a discussion about the file's non-free use on the the talk page. If there was, then it might be a good idea to add {{G8-exempt}} to the file's talk page so that it's not deleted when the file is deleted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:00, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: "... unless the copyright holder has released a vector version of the file". Well, if you look at the source section of the FUR you would know that it is an official publication from which the logo was extracted. What made you think I vectorized it myself?Jonteemil (talk) 21:16, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

The source was a pdf and the file's description said it was extracted. I wasn't sure if that meant the image was originally in some other format and you then converted to svg format. Generally, what NFC#Mutlitple restrictions seems to mean by "official vector version" is that the copyright holder is making its own vector version available (i.e. a file that is already in svg format) and doesn't require any conversion or extraction. If that's the case here, then NFC#Multiple restrictions is not an issue. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:45, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: See WP:PDFTOSVG#Extracting part of a PDF for how it's done. I'm not sure in what file format the logo is in the actual PDF, but it's some kind of vector format anyway. Probably even SVG.Jonteemil (talk) 00:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: I always strive to find a logo in an official publication and try to avoid using sites like https://www.seeklogo.com, https://www.seeklogo.net, https://www.brandsoftheworld.com or other non-official sources.Jonteemil (talk) 17:59, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

I realized you got the file from an official source. What wasn't clear was whether the PDF file was in svg format? Since you say the PDF is in some kind of vector format, then that extracting it seems to be OK since it doesn't change anything about the logo in a significant way; the extraction is apparently just a mechanical process (like c:COM:2D copying) that only creates a slavish reproduction of the logo.

One thing that you might consider doing in the future though when you upload logos in this manner would be to check the talk page of any files which are going to be replaced and will become orphaned non-free use. The old version's file talk page might include some information discussing the file or templates (like WikProject banners, {{Old prod}} or {{Oldffdfull}}) which contain information that might be helpful to others. If there's only a WikiProject banner on the file's talk page, then just adding the same banner to the newer version's file talk page should be fine; if there's actual discussions or posts made by others, then you might want to add the template {{G8-exempt}} to the top of the old version's file talk page so that it's not automatically deleted without being reviewed by an admin. It would also be helpful, if you could add {{SVG version available}} to the older version's file page (just make sure you set include the syntax |nonfree=yes if the svg version is non-free) and also add link to the old version to the new version's file talk page to make it much easier for others to figure out what's going on. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:47, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Instead of {{SVG version available}} I usually add {{Di-orphaned fair use}} and my logo as {replacement} parameter, since it's gonna be deleted anyway. I will check the file talk pages in the future though when uploading a replacement of a logo. By the way, if you open the PDF and find the logo, the fact that you can zoom in on it without it losing quality is a fast way to test if it's vector or raster.Jonteemil (talk) 22:58, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

"SVG version available" and "di-orphaned fair use" each serve a different purpose; so, they aren't really redundant templates. The "di" template just lets an administrator know that a file meets WP:F5 and can be deleted; it doesn't, however, provide any information as to why the file has become orphaned. Sometimes files are randomly removed for some unknown reason which makes them orphaned and unless someone notices the removal the file might end up deleted by mistake. The "SVG version available" template can be used on freely licensed or PD files too and it's not a deletion related template; it just lets others know that another version (a svg version) of the file exists. This sometimes can help explain why a file has been orphaned. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:30, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Lunds universitet logo.svg

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Thanks for uploading File:Lunds universitet logo.svg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:44, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

You might want to look at this again because the reason why this file became orphaned was because someone replaced it with File:Logotyp Lunds universitet (vit).png. If that file is licensed correctly, then there's no way a non-free file like File:Lunds universitet logo.svg can be kept per WP:FREER. If the Commons file's licensing is correct, then perhaps the licensing of the non-free file can be converted to the same license and moved to Commons. Another option might be to create a vector version of the Commons file and use that instead. This probably would be a good thing to ask about at WP:MCQ or c:COM:VPC. Finally, you shouldn't have simply re-added the file without an edit summary like you did here; it would've better to at least explain why. I understand that the editor adding the Commons file also didn't leave an edit summary, and it would've been better if they had; however, their edit wasn't a case of vandalism, etc., and the file they added might actually be a good thing. The Commons file was uploaded in 2014 and is being used on quite a number of other language Wikipedia's. You uploaded the non-free svg in 2019, but it's not clear why you needed to do this if there was already a PD version of the essentially same image already available. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:42, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: An SVG is simply better. In all ways. But if the law is against me on this one, there's not much to do about it.Jonteemil (talk) 23:53, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Understand, but a non-free svg is simply not kept because it's better. Someone could create essentially create a svg version of the same file and upload to Commons under the same license. If the university's crest is too old to be still protected by copyright, then you can simply re-license the version you upload under a PD license and move it to Commons; or you can create a new a better svg version and upload that to Commons instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:14, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Your help desk question

Did you ever find the answer to this question? No one responded but I think WP:VPT is the place to ask it. I just now saw the question.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:47, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee: No, I don't think I did.Jonteemil (talk) 10:32, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

New message from Alexis Jazz

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball § 50 files with bad fair use rationale. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:48, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Guinea and Benin football logos

Hi, thank you for warring me, I see that the new logos are more better and more conforme then mine. That's allright for me. Best regards. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 18:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Rename requests

Would it be possible to try to have no more than 10 queued rename requests? When suddenly 37 similar requests pop up, the urge to start rubber stamping is not easy to ignore. I'm afraid I have already passed some that I should have adjusted before renaming. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:32, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: When I realized that there were too many I instead created User:Jonteemil/Double extensions.Jonteemil (talk) 11:59, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have already passed some that I should have adjusted before renaming. The filenames are still better then before, right? And you wouldn't have renamed them, had I not tagged them with {{Rename media}}, right? So I think it is a better state now, than before, albeit not optimal I guess, if that's what you're trying to achieve. I do acknowledge the risk of rubber stamping, in general at least, but I didn't think this particular type of renaming would lead to any errors because of it.Jonteemil (talk) 12:22, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Please don't request any more renames from that list, I'll deal with them at my own pace. Page titles and filenames are not the same as wikitext where incremental improvements are fine, they are supposed to be somewhat stable. So if a file is getting renamed, the new name should be double checked to be right. In those 37 requests I remember at least one typo (File:Patri Pugliese in Zouave uniform.png, Zouave had to be capitalized) and some meaningless filenames like File:Hlh poster1.gif.png and File:World Map WSF.svg.png. I should have added spaces to File:BuzzLightyearofStarCommandLevel2screenshot.png which is now no longer allowed per WP:FNC. File:Miller Library.jpeg.JPG was highly likely to clash with a file on Commons in the future as there are several libraries that can be referred to as Miller Library. Btw, the {{cot}} you added in Special:Diff/1017856473 breaks User:Enterprisey/reply-link. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

If you don't want to see minor edits to User:Jonteemil/Double extensions when I rename something you can add {{nobots}} to that page. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:34, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

As I see you're regularly rolling back on User:Jonteemil/Double extensions I'll remind you that LuckyRename is exclusion compliant. If you prefer having the replacement edits anyway (perhaps as a way to be notified when I rename something), np, carry on. Also thanks for updating User:Alexis Jazz/sandbox3, but if it's any effort at all, there's no need. I use CSS to visually distinguish redirects from regular links. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:56, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: Does this make so that you don't change the file links when you rename with LuckyRename? Because I see no point in keeping the already moved files.Jonteemil (talk) 22:01, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes. I just moved File:Roman Wall Blues.jpeg.jpg and as you see, no replacement on User:Jonteemil/Double extensions. If you need more targeted exclusion you can use {{bots|deny=luckyrename}}. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:13, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: Okay, perfect - Jonteemil (talk) 12:12, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

please add logo

Indian Premier Handball League

https://newsroom24x7.com/2020/12/05/premier-handball-leagues-inaugural-edition-from-december-24/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.100.86 (talk) 20:46, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done.Jonteemil (talk) 22:46, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

note

page RK Metković needs few updates, including jersey and logo as i saw online. https://hr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datoteka:RK_Metkovic_Mehanika.svg#mw-jump-to-license — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.2.65.152 (talk) 02:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

to add, please restore this version on cro wiki, as old page got locked and new team established...or if can merge, thing is locals dont care as its not top division sadly.

https://hr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posebno:MobileDiff/5238349 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.2.65.152 (talk) 02:25, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I don't speak Croatian, so sorry but I can't help you.Jonteemil (talk) 03:09, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Creating an SVG logo for the Ethiopian premier league

Hi there Jonteemil , I am hooase, a editor for anything Ethiopian football related. Currently the Ethiopian premier League is ongoing. Some of the teams logo are quite not intricate and detailed and, i have not been able to find any logo that is an SVG version from the football logo template wiki page. I have seen that you have designed many logo's. I was wondering if, at your convenience, you would be able to help design these logo's, seeing as you are way more professional than i am at this! Now, it's entirely up to you whether you want to do it or not, but i have been hard-pressed to find anyone who would be willing to design logo's for football team's and probably not at the same level of quality as yours. Even just one or two would be fantastic.Thank you so much. Have a great day! Hooaos (talk) 18:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

@Hooaos: Hello! I too haven't been able to find any logo in any vector format unfortunately. All SVGs I upload I find online, I don't vectorize them myself. Some I found already in the SVG file format, for example all the Japanese football logos I've been uploading lately, look at https://www.jleague.co/clubs/ and you can see that the logos are looking good no matter how much you zoom. Other logos I extract from PDF:s which often have vector data inside of them. If you find the logo of the Ethiopian Premier League in a PDF which can be zoomed indefinitely and still look sharp I can help you extract it. All the logos at https://ethiopianpremierleague.net/clubs/premier-league/ seem to be PNGs, i.e. raster graphics.Jonteemil (talk) 19:08, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

File mover granted

Hello Jonteemil. Your account has been granted the "filemover" user right, either following a request for it or due to a clear need for the ability to move files. Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:File mover for more information on this user right and under what circumstances it is okay to move files. When you move a file please remember to update any links to the new name as well! If you do not want the file mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! — JJMC89 (T·C) 08:39, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

PROD vs orphaned

I don't know why you switched from PROD to "orphaned". Why not both instead? I'm unsure whether the image will still be deleted as "orphaned". If I were you next time, I would leave the PROD alone unless you want to contest it. George Ho (talk) 20:00, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

@George Ho: Both PRODs and orphaned non-free files are deleted after seven days. Unused non-free files are automaticallt tagged as orphaned by B-bot and since the file was unused it will be tagged. To have both the PROD and orphaned file templates on the file page just makes no sense. Better to tag the file as orphaned in the first place so not to fill the file page with templates. What do you think? I'm unsure whether the image will still be deleted as "orphaned" I can 100% tell you that you don't have to be unsure, it will be deleted, unless it's readded to an article.Jonteemil (talk) 20:16, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

If you de-PROD a file, the file can't be re-PRODded. Simple as that. Same for any other de-PRODded article. But I guess you're right about an orphaned file. Still, PROD and "orphaned" can co-live together in one apartment or house like roommates, no matter how strange, nonsensical, or weird it is. Now I recall the matter discussed at CSD talk page, but it's more about de-PRODded pages still eligible for CSD. --George Ho (talk) 21:41, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

@George Ho: I agree that they can co-live but if the result is the same I don't see why anyone would want that. But that's just my opinion. If it weren't the case that the bot would add the orphaned template on top of the PROD template I wouldn't have changed it.Jonteemil (talk) 09:03, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Still, for next time, even when bot tasks annoy you, I would suggest not again to de-PROD an orphaned file unless you object deleting and orphaning a file. Me? I just wouldn't worry about a bot tagging an orphaned file. You can raise an issue further at either WT:CSD or WT:PROD or a venue that can handle bot annoyances, like probably Village pump. --George Ho (talk) 09:29, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hello. You reverted the Redirect link, which I have corrected. Väsby Idrottsföringen is not only an ice hockey club. It has also a football team, in which Ronny Hellström played. So if you revert my contribution, please create the correct page. Thanks! Royalrec (talk) 17:58, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

@Royalrec: Hello! I undid your edit since you made it so the page redirected to a redlink. Even if not 100% accurate I think that a redirect to a blue link is more preferable than one to a redlink. Don't you agree?Jonteemil (talk) 21:39, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hockey team jerseys

I saw that u made the Canadiens one. I was planning on updating the Porin Ässät jersey but i don't know how to make them. Can you please help? --Kilaseell - Message me! - 11:38, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Kilaseell: Sorry, I did not make it, I just cropped it.Jonteemil (talk) 22:03, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Dang it! --Kilaseell - Message me! - 05:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)