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Straw man proposal for Robert A. Heinlein bibliography

Rough draft, work in process, formatting errors, for discussion only

Robert A. Heinlein bibliography

Title	First publication	*	Original byline (if not Robert A. Heinlein), alternate titles, awards, notes
"Life-Line"	August 1939	F	For book publication in 1949, the story date was revised from 1939 to 1951.
"Misfit"	November 1939	F	Revised for book version, 1953.
"Requiem"	January 1940	F
""If This Goes On—""	January 1940	F	Revised for book publication, 1953
"Let There Be Light"	May 1940	F	Lyle Monroe. Revised for book versions in 1950 and 1963.
"The Roads Must Roll"	June 1940	F
"Coventry"	July 1940	F
"Successful Operation"	Summer 1940		Lyle Monroe, as "Heil!"
"Blowups Happen"	September 1940	F
"Magic, Inc."	September 1940		Anson MacDonald, as "The Devil Makes the Law"
Sixth Column	January-March, 1941		Published in book form, 1949. Also published as The Day After Tomorrow
""—And He Built a Crooked House—""	February 1941	F
"Logic of Empire"	March 1941	F
"Beyond Doubt"	April 1941		Lyle Monroe and Elma Wentz
"They"	April 1941
"Universe"	May 1941	F
"Solution Unsatisfactory"	May 1941		Anson MacDonald
""—We Also Walk Dogs""	July 1941	F	Anson MacDonald
"Methuselah's Children"	July- September 1941	F	Expanded to novel length, 1958)
"Elsewhen"	September 1941		Caleb Saunders, as "Elsewhere"
"By His Bootstraps"	October 1941		Anson MacDonald
"Common Sense"	October 1941	F
"Lost Legacy"	November 1941		Lyle Monroe, as "Lost Legion"
""My Object All Sublime""	February 1942
"Goldfish Bowl"	March 1942		Anson MacDonald
"Pied Piper"	March 1942		Lyle Monroe
Beyond This Horizon	April, May 1942		Anson MacDonald. Revised for book publication, 1948.
"Waldo"	August 1942		Anson MacDonald
"The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag"	October 1942		John Riverside
"The Green Hills of Earth"	February 1947	F
"Space Jockey"	April 1947	F
"Columbus Was a Dope"	May 1947	f	Lyle Monroe
"They Do It with Mirrors (Heinlein)"	May 1947		Simon York
""It's Great to Be Back!""	July 1947	F
"Jerry Was a Man"	October 1947		Originally published as "Jerry Is a Man"
"Water Is for Washing"	November 1947
Rocket Ship Galileo	1947	J
"The Black Pits of Luna"	January 1948	F
"Gentlemen, Be Seated!"	May 1948	F
"Ordeal in Space"	May 1948	F
Space Cadet	1948	J
"Our Fair City"	January 1949
"Nothing Ever Happens on the Moon"	April, May 1949	f	While not officially part of the Future History, Heinlein says in Expanded Universe: 'This story is compatible with the so-called "Future History" stories.'
"Poor Daddy"	August 1949		R. A. Heinlein
"Gulf"	November, December 1949
"Delilah and the Space Rigger"	December 1949	F
"The Long Watch"	December 1949	F
Red Planet	1949	J
Shooting Destination Moon	July 1950	N
"Cliff and the Calories"	August 1950		R. A. Heinlein
Farmer in the Sky	August-November 1950	J	Serialized as "Satellite Scout". Retro Hugo Award, 1951
"The Man Who Sold the Moon"	1950	F	Retro Hugo Award, 1951
"Destination Moon"	September 1950
Between Planets	September, October 1951	J	Serialized as "Planets in Combat"
The Puppet Masters	September- November 1951	J	Original uncut version published 1990
Tomorrow, the Stars (foreword only)	1952	N	While Heinlein's name appears on the cover as the editor, he only wrote the foreword; the collection was actually edited by Frederick Pohl and Judith Merril.
"The Year of the Jackpot"	March 1952
The Rolling Stones	September-December 1952	J	Serialized as "Tramp Space Ship". Published in the U.K. as "Space Family Stone".
"Ray Guns and Rocket Ships"	November 1952	N
"This I Believe (Heinlein)"	December 1, 1952	N	[1]. Reprinted in Requiem and Grumbles from the Grave.
"Project Nightmare"	April 1953
"Sky Lift"	November 1953
Starman Jones	1953	J
The Star Beast	May-July 1954	J	Serialized as "Star Lummox"
Tunnel in the Sky	1955	J
Double Star	February-April 1956		Hugo Award, 1956
Time for the Stars	1956	J
The Door into Summer	October-December 1956	J
"The Menace From Earth"	August 1957
Citizen of the Galaxy	September-December 1957	J
"The Man Who Traveled in Elephants"	October 1957		Serialized as "The Elephant Circuit"
"Who Are the Heirs of Patrick Henry?"	April 1958	N
"Tenderfoot in Space"	May-July 1958
Have Space Suit—Will Travel	August-October 1958	J
""All You Zombies—""	March 1959
Starship Troopers	October-November 1959		Written as a juvenile, but rejected by Scribner's. Hugo Award, 1960
"Pravda Means Truth"	October 1960	N
Stranger in a Strange Land	1961		(Hugo Award, 1962), republished at the original greater length in 1991
"Searchlight"	August 1962	F
Podkayne of Mars	November 1962-March 1963	j
Glory Road	July-September 1963
Farnham's Freehold	July-October 1964
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress	December 1965-April 1966		(Hugo Award, 1967)
"Free Men"	1966		Originally written in 1946.
I Will Fear No Evil	July-December 1970
Time Enough for Love	1973
"The Pragmatics of Patriotism"	April 1973	N	Speech at Annapolis; the published version is only a portion of the speech
No Bands Playing, No Flags Flying	December 1973
"Paul Dirac, Antimatter, and You"	1975	N	Encyclopædia Britannica
"Are You a Rare Blood?"	1976	N	Encyclopædia Britannica
"Larger Than Life"	1979	N	A Memoir in Tribute to Dr. Edward E. Smith
"Spinoff"	1979	N
The Number of the Beast	1980
"The Last Days of the United States"	1980	N	Written 1946
"How to Be a Survivor"	1980	N	Written 1946
"Pie from the Sky"	1980	N
"No Bands Playing, No Flags Flying"	1980
"A Bathroom of Her Own"	1980		Written 1946
"On the Slopes of Vesuvius"	1980		Written 1947
"Where To?" (Pandora's Box, 1950, 1965, 1980)	1980	N	Originally written 1952; revised 1966, 1980
"The Third Millennium Opens"	1980	N
"Inside Intourist"	1980	N	Written 1960
"The Happy Days Ahead"	1980	N	Combination commentary with an embedded story intended to complement the commentary.
Friday	1982
Job: A Comedy of Justice	1984
The Cat Who Walks Through Walls	1985
To Sail Beyond the Sunset	1987
"Dance Session"	1988		Written 1946.
"The Witch's Daughters"	1988		Written 1946.
The Bulletin Board	1992
Grumbles from the Grave	1989		Posthumous collection
Take Back Your Government: A Practical Handbook for the Private Citizen	1992		Written as "How To Be a Politician", April 1946
Tramp Royale	1992
For Us, The Living: A Comedy of Customs	2003		Written circa 1938
Variable Star	2004		posthumously with Spider Robinson from 1955 notes

Notes

F = Future History

f = Compatible with Future History, not officially canonical.

J = Juvenile (includes all of the Scribner's juveniles)

j = Juvenile (subject to interpretation)

N = Non-fiction

Discussion

Since the "Discussion" tab just directs to this same page, we'll discuss here.

I salute the motivation and the aggregation of the information. As I said elsewhere, table formats are ugly. Additionally, they are notoriously difficult and tedious to edit, and very easy for novice editors to mess up. Further, it is a mistake to duplicate information in two places because they easily get out of sync, especially in collaborative editing. I strongly recommend against a table format. I think the basic sectioning of the Bibliography as it stand is good, though a few tweaks and improvements could be made, notably integrating some of the notes you include above. I would leave it basically as is, but add a timeline as in the section I've added below. Hu 07:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm in total agreement, for both of the reasons you mention plus one more. Putting the table together wasn't too bad initially; I formatted it in Microsoft Word, then exported it to HTML (and yesterday I reformatted it using Wiki table format). That part was manageable. But then I had to fix details, like hyphens to mdashes, and some missing dates, etc. And finding a single entry to fix in that massive table became a major pain. So that's the first point: it's impossible to edit. And as you said, it's ugly as sin. And finally, after I put it all together and tried to print the page for review, it turns out that it doesn't paginate, so you get a single page and the remainder is lost, just as if it was an image. So...the exercise was extremely worthwhile because it forced me to review Heinlein's complete body of work. The table itself is a complete disaster. Your format is far superior in every way -- it's cleaner, it's editable (critical on a wiki), and it's printable. You did an excellent job putting this into a useful format!

Would there be any value in also presenting this as an alphabetical list? I'm leaning towards no, based on (1) duplication (keeping two lists in synch on a Wiki is problematical), (2) (it would double the page size (assuming it's on the same page), and (3) I'm not entirely sure that it's a useful presentation. -- Jim Douglas ^(talk) _(contribs) 13:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Alternate Structure for the Timeline

This is the chronological order of publication, with the exception of the 1938 first novel which was published essentially unaltered poshumously.

• 1938:
  • For Us, The Living: A Comedy of Customs (actual 2003)
• 1939:
  • Aug.: "Life-Line" (rev. 1949)
  • Nov.: "Misfit" (rev. 1953).
• 1940:
  • Jan.: "Requiem", ""If This Goes On—"" (rev. 1953)
  • May: "Let There Be Light" (rev. 1950 and 1963)
  • June: "The Roads Must Roll"
  • July: "Coventry"
  • Summer: "Successful Operation" ("Heil!")
  • Sept.: "Blowups Happen", "Magic, Inc." as "The Devil Makes the Law"
• 1941:
  • Jan.-Mar.: Sixth Column (book: 1949. Alt. title: The Day After Tomorrow)
  • Feb.: ""—And He Built a Crooked House—""
  • Mar.: "Logic of Empire"
  • Apr.: "Beyond Doubt", "They (short story)They"
  • May: "Universe", "Solution Unsatisfactory"
  • July: ""—We Also Walk Dogs""
  • July-Sept.: "Methuselah's Children" July- September 1941 (rev. to novel 1958)
  • Sept.: "Elsewhen"
  • Oct.: "By His Bootstraps", "Common Sense"
  • Nov.:"Lost Legacy"
• 1942:
  • Feb.: ""My Object All Sublime""
  • March: "Goldfish Bowl", "Pied Piper"
  • April, May: Beyond This Horizon (rev. novel 1948).
  • Aug.: "Waldo"
  • Oct.: "The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag"
• 1947:
  • Feb.: "The Green Hills of Earth"
  • April: "Space Jockey"
  • May: "Columbus Was a Dope", "They Do It with Mirrors"
  • July: ""It's Great to Be Back!""
  • Oct.: "Jerry Was a Man"
  • Nov.: "Water is for Washing"
  • Rocket Ship Galileo
• 1948:
  • Jan.: "The Black Pits of Luna"
  • May: "Gentlemen, Be Seated!", "Ordeal in Space"
  • Space Cadet
• 1949:
  • Jan.: "Our Fair City"
  • April, May: "Nothing Ever Happens on the Moon"
  • Aug: "Poor Daddy"
  • Nov.-Dec.: "Gulf"
  • Dec.: "Delilah and the Space Rigger", "The Long Watch"
  • Red Planet
• 1950:
  • July: Shooting Destination Moon
  • Aug: "Cliff and the Calories"
  • Aug.-Nov. Farmer in the Sky (serialized as "Satellite Scout"
  • "The Man Who Sold the Moon"
  • Sept. "Destination Moon"
• 1951:
  • Sept.-Oct.: Between Planets (serialized as "Planets in Combat")
  • Sept.-Nov.: The Puppet Masters (uncut publ. 1990)
  • Tomorrow, the Stars (foreword only)
• 1952:
  • Mar: "The Year of the Jackpot"
  • Sept.-Dec.: The Rolling Stones (serialized as "Tramp Space Ship", UK: "Space Family Stone").
  • Nov.: "Ray Guns and Rocket Ships"
  • Dec. 1: "This I Believe" [2]
• 1953:
  • April: "Project Nightmare"
  • Nov.: "Sky Lift"
  • Starman Jones
• 1954:
  • May-July: The Star Beast (serialized as "Star Lummox")
• 1955:
  • Tunnel in the Sky
• 1956:
  • Feb.-April: Double Star
  • Time for the Stars
  • Oct.-Dec.: The Door into Summer
• 1957:
  • Aug.: "The Menace From Earth"
  • Sept.-Dec.: Citizen of the Galaxy
  • Oct.: "The Man Who Traveled in Elephants" (serialized as "The Elephant Circuit")
• 1958:
  • April: "Who Are the Heirs of Patrick Henry?"
  • May-July: "Tenderfoot in Space"
  • Aug.-Oct.: Have Space Suit—Will Travel
• 1959:
  • March: ""All You Zombies—""
  • Oct.-Nov.: Starship Troopers
• 1960
  • Oct: "Pravda Means Truth"
• 1961:
  • Stranger in a Strange Land (uncut publ. 1991)
• 1962:
  • Aug.: "Searchlight"
  • Nov.-March: Podkayne of Mars
• 1963:
  • July-Sept.: Glory Road
  • July-Oct.: Farnham's Freehold
• 1965:
  • Dec.-April: The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress
  • "Free Men" (written 1946)
• 1970:
  • July-Dec.: I Will Fear No Evil
• 1973:
  • Time Enough for Love
  • April: "The Pragmatics of Patriotism" (part of a speech at Annapolis)
  • Dec.: No Bands Playing, No Flags Flying (written appr. 1947)
• 1975:
  • "Paul Dirac, Antimatter, and You" (Compton's Encyclopedia)
• 1976:
  • "Are You a Rare Blood?" (Compton's Encyclopedia)
• 1979:
  • "Larger Than Life"
  • "Spinoff"
• 1980:
  • The Number of the Beast
  • "The Last Days of the United States" (written 1946)
  • "How to Be a Survivor" (written 1946)
  • "Pie from the Sky"
  • "A Bathroom of Her Own" (written 1946)
  • "On the Slopes of Vesuvius" (written 1947)
  • "Where To?" ("Pandora's Box", 1952, rev. 1965, 1980)
  • "The Third Millennium Opens"
  • "Inside Intourist" (written 1960)
  • "The Happy Days Ahead"
• 1982:
  • Friday
• 1984:
  • Job: A Comedy of Justice
• 1985:
  • The Cat Who Walks Through Walls
• 1987:
  • To Sail Beyond the Sunset
• 1988:
  • "Dance Session" (written 1946)
  • "The Witch's Daughters" (written 1946)
• 1989 (posthumous):
  • Grumbles from the Grave
  • Take Back Your Government: A Practical Handbook for the Private Citizen (written as "How To Be a Politician", April 1946)
• 1992:
  • "The Bulletin Board"
  • Tramp Royale
• 2004:
  • Variable Star (posthumously with Spider Robinson from 1955 notes)

By keeping entries short and sweet, we avoid duplication of editing effort and we end up with a clean uncluttered list. I would not have done this without your inspiration! Hu 07:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)