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Big Show "heel turn"

For a start, new information added to articles should be backed up by a reliable source. Secondly, insider/fan terms like "heel" should be avoided because articles have to be able to be easily understood by people unfamiliar with professional wrestling. If someone who knew nothing about the business was to read "Big Show turned heel", they would probably be confused and maybe think it was referring to his shoes. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 17:14, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

• Additionally, having to explain, back and forth, each and every time a character changes allegiances is ridiculous. As I pointed out earlier, if for example Big Show and John Cena are considered "faces" and Big Show all of a sudden knocks Cena out to help their opponent, it's obvious in reading that, as well as further info within the article, that Big Show has now become a heel or a villain. It over explains the obvious. That would be like the article on Benedict Arnold saying that he handed American plans to the British, turning him into a villain or the O. J. Simpson article saying that this athlete who was loved for years became a bad person after allegedly murdering two people. It's overexplanation and not necessary. NJZombie (talk) 19:11, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

• • Wikilinking instances of Big Show hitting somebody to show a heel or face change is not going to work either. First off, items should only be wikilinked once per article. Secondly, it's still overexplanation. Once again, if somebody suddenly turns on somebody they had been "friends" with prior, it's obvious within the synopsis that they have changed their allegiance. Pointing it out is just poor writing. NJZombie (talk) 15:01, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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Re: turns

I'm not entirely opposed to noting turns; the problem is people note it too often, without reliable sources, and fail to note when it is entirely unnecessary. If wrestler a is teaming regularly with wrestler b and then attacks him during a match, it is obvious his character has changed. We do not need to say "attacked his tag team partner, turning heel". It's redundancy, it's pointless, and it's bad writing. Additionally, sources should be provided, reliable sources, to verify that they are heel/face. Heel/face should also be explained per WP:JARGON. NiciVampireHeart 05:26, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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