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Howdy. Thanks for trying to improve the Zack de la Rocha article. However, I reverted your change because it doesn't meet a couple of core Wikipedia standards (that aren't always successfully enforced, but we try). First, our biography of living people standard requires us to have excellent quality sources for contentious or negative statements about all living people mentioned in an article; Beto is living so the policy applies to statements about him in his son's article. Second, our reliable source guideline says: "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." The cited FAQ has no particular reputation for reliability; it's an anonymous web publication that might be right, but might isn't good enough for such a negative statement like that. And finally, though I didn't fully read the FAQ, the part I did read didn't have anything about Beto being taken away by the police, so it didn't seem to fully support the added material even if it was a reliable source. If you can find better sourcing for the statement, please feel free to re-add it with the new source. I know this may seem to be hyper-fussy, but we try not to hurt people through sloppy editing or repeating Internet rumors. Studerby (talk) 17:15, 10 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

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I am ready to support it.Please include your opinion. Bloomgloom talk 15:45, 3 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

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List of alternative metal artists‎ edit

I noticed that you removed entries such as Tad (band). I myself did not look at every entry I removed to make sure that their wikiarticle did not have a reliable source to categorize them as alternative metal either, but Tad (band) does have a reliable source on Tad (band) to properly categorize it as alternative metal. Would you be so kind as to check over my edits and yours to make sure we only remove the entries that are legitimately unreliably unsourced on their wikiarticle as well?Curb Chain (talk) 07:20, 10 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

No Interaction edit

Hey,why don't you reply or interact man? Bloomgloom talk 07:28, 17 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Nice Work at BGWTB edit

Keep up the good work. Bloomgloom talk 15:56, 26 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sources regarding 'tripod' album edit

Hey, buddy as the 'tripod' album contains freaking heavy & eerie songs like Grind, Sludge Factory, Head Creeps & many fans consider it a sludge metal album as well so, if you could find sources that label the self-titled album as sludge metal it will be of much help.I've seen a Sputnikmusic review described the album as Alice in Chains played aggressive ramped up doom metal on occasions.Therefore, I'd request you to look for sources. Bloomgloom talk 12:15, 29 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

well this source calls the album sludge metal http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=ADHB&p_theme=adhb&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0ED0271EF493F7F0&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM but you have to pay money to read the full article, and this source calls the album sludgy http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,299586,00.html those are the only i could find I call the big one bitey
Is there any chance finding that article in Daily Herald web version, have you searched?Because, I couldn't find anything by entering keywords in google. Bloomgloom talk 12:13, 30 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

nope, but i think the source that calls the album sludgy is enough to warrant adding sludge metal to the album's genre field I call the big one bitey

Vandalism by Spanish IP edit

This spanish IP removed AiC from sludge metal, keep an eye on him. Bloomgloom talk 13:30, 1 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Talk:Nickelback edit

Bro, place your thoughts here. Bloomgloom talk 11:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Hey, buddy keep doing those good works & insist on to the removal of heavy metal on Nickelcrap. Appreciation. Peace. I hope we'll work together again if I return after the topic ban, till then adios. Bloomgloom talk 07:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Hi, about the edit you just made on Daron Malakian, I reverted the whole thing mostly because of the popular thing, which you would admit is not neutral enough for an encyclopedia. But I also reverted the fact that you changed the band's genre. I don't want to be nitpicking, because honestly defining SOAD as either rock, hard rock or alternative metal is pretty much the same, and after all the band is introduced as rock on their page. The fact that SOAD was labelled as hard rock on Daron's page wasn't wrong, it didn't need to be changed. I'm not going to change it back again because it's not that important, I just wanted to point the fact that such changes are unnecessary. Maimai009 16:14, 30 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Hey there. Instead of reverting your edit, I want to state why I took away the information. The individual is an infamous POV-pusher whose main account of Metalvayne (talk · contribs) has been banned from editing and now has to resort to sockpuppeting. For the bit that I took away, I have read the two sources, and concerning the areas of text concerning sludge metal, they both say something to the effect that the Dirt album influenced what later became sludge metal; source 20 uses the term "sludge rock" instead of sludge metal, with quotes as well; that is also the general statement made on the Wikipedia page as well with these sources. Although I would appreciate it if the edits of Ravenlord5150 (talk · contribs) (an account which, upon the sockpuppet investigation has now been indefinitely blocked) be reverted due to the POV-pushing aspect about them, if the edits are indeed determined to be worth keeping then I won't protest and will drop the issue. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 21:18, 21 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

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We've been confused with an issue regarding the origins of alternative rock with another user and currently we are not able to reach a proper concensus. Our debate continues on our talk pages [1] [2] and unfortunately we're yet to carry on this debate on the talk page of alternative rock. Please feel free to join us to reach to a consensus. I thought that you could help us on this topic, as I rely on your knowledge and skills due to your awesome cooloborative work on alternative metal and other related articles

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Oddfellows (album) edit

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I couldn't really understand what you meant by "consistency" in this edit. I'd be pleased if you'd further explain your rationale for removing the genre section from Oldfellows. Thank you. Myxomatosis57 (talk) 21:51, 2 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Well you should really be asking user Grapple X, because he's the one who came up with the idea of removing genres on Tomahawk albums to avoid genre warring and get Tomahawk articles up to good article status.

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I'm gonna be improving the singles articles I invite you to work with me.

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Well, from what I know, one of the strings are tuned differently, like a semitone (down). A guitar riff are several notes, so they are not the same. At least when played with the swipe of a hand. I suggest putting back User:Mr. Brain's addition.Curb Chain (talk) 09:55, 18 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

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I haven't really been on the deathcore page much before, but I noticed you consider some of the deathcore sources unreliable. MetalSucks is reliable, and as been used as a source for many articles. Please see MetalSucks.

I know it looks like a blog but its more of a news site

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I am sorry at what I did. I think the song is Post-grunge and not grunge. I will find a link to it. The song is really Post-grunge not Grunge. The link that is there seem fake. Nickelback are a Post-grunge band not a GRUNGE band. Even though their first album Curb was grunge. I have to find a link saying that Leader Of Men is post-grunge. If you want to change it and get another more true link you could. I am not going to change anything except if I find a good link. Sorry.

Have you read the source that says its grunge? It says early Nickelback like leader of men typifies grunge, and it's an extremely reliable academic source. I call the big one bitey (talk) 21:45, 16 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

It is early Nickelback but its not original grunge. Leader Of Men is post-grunge not grunge. Nickelback Curb album is grunge but Leader Of Men is coming from a post-grunge album. When it says that leader of men typifies grunge it means it a more radio friendlier grunge which is Post-grunge. The name post means after grunge. I could find links about the song being a post-grunge song. But yeah thanks for the information that you gave. But when they say that Nickelback has this grunge sound it means they were influenced by it and this term is called Post-grunge.

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Why isn't progarchives.com a reliable source? It elicits advertising.Curb Chain (talk) 07:37, 28 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Just saw your response on the talk page about progarchives.com.Curb Chain (talk) 07:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Yes but be fair it also mentions Hip-Hop and industrial dance in the review so are you saying that they should be added? Lukejordan02 (talk) 02:35, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

It just says it has hints of hip hop and industrial dance in the drum patterns, which it probably does. I think Allmusic defines alternative metal differently from Wikipedia, here on Wikipedia it's defined as heavier, more experimental grunge/alternative rock music from the early 90s, while on Allmusic nu metal, groove metal and alternative metal are usually defined as the exact same thing. --I call the big one bitey (talk) 02:52, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

With respect it doesn't and I personally think that reviewer is talking a load of bollocks, I have left a message on the albums talk page and I am giving it a week if no one objects I will then remove it. Can't say fairer than that. Lukejordan02 (talk) 02:56, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Talk page discussion aside what is your own opinion on the matter? Lukejordan02 (talk) 03:15, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

I wouldn't mind that much if the genre was removed since it does seem sort of misplaced on a thrash metal album. Allmusic is probably the only source on the web that would consider the album alternative metal, the problem is that it's probably one of the only reliable sources on the web for this album. I'm about to invite MrMoustacheMM into the talk page discussion so we can get a third opinion on the matter. I call the big one bitey (talk) 03:31, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Sorry for interrupt, there's a huge objection on talk page for adding "pop" genre in the infobox. Allmusic reviewer says an alternative rock album, however, he added "comes off as pop". I think "pop" that means a style or a hook, not an actual proper genre. 183.171.175.28 (talk) 11:37, 5 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Can you find any better sources that refer to Nothingface as "nu-metal?" The first two are clearly written by music journalists that loathe anything hard rock or heavy metal, which means they probably don't know squat about the larger genre and just lump bands in with others (i.e. music journalists calling Staind, Trust Company, and Puddle of Mudd nu-metal when they were clearly just hard rock bands). Not to mention that their "reviews" are about 40 words long. I really doubt these qualify as reliable sources. And as for the MusicMight page, I hate to tell you this, but that site was made by user-contributions. They have disabled the abilities now, but users used to be able to edit and add any information on bands that they wanted to. They didn't even have to cite sources. I guess it was their way of creating a music website without having to to the research themselves. "Let's just make the fans fill the info in!" Hsxeric (talk) 00:15, 9 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

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On all the Pearl Jam related articles you've edited. Thanks! Love the username too - need to find a monorail now. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 06:40, 23 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

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The cite you're using nowhere describes St. Anger as a nu metal album. There's plenty of information in your link to add in the nu metal article. By the way, it is always better to open a discussion before you change genres in frequently visited and often disputed articles.--Retrohead (talk) 16:25, 23 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

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  Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Sue Lyon. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Sundayclose (talk) 03:24, 26 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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"Spirit of Metal is normally considered a reliable source" didn't you mean unreliable? SpaceHelmetX1 (talk) 09:47, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that was a typo. --I call the big one bitey (talk) 10:22, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

? SpaceHelmetX1 (talk) 10:26, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
oh yes a typographical error SpaceHelmetX1 (talk) 10:33, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Just in case you don't know, Spirit of Metal is definitely not an adequately reliable source for bands and albums with widespread press coverage like this. It might even be frowned upon as a source of basic info for obscure artists with little press coverage. The source doesn't even have an author to attribute the nu metal labelling to. Spirit of Metal was also added as a source for the Enjoy Incubus EP, and there's almost no press coverage for that release yet, so it will probably be able to stay there until more reliable sources start writing about it. --I call the big one bitey (talk) 10:47, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

I don't disagree. I stated that it is a poor quality ref. But in one of your reversals you used the term "reliable" referring to Spirit of Metal and that was confusing. The fact is: that website has often been used as a ref and could be added by another user at any time, so I just wanted to prevent. Btw, the ref used for Enjoy Incubus EP is Metal Storm, not Spirit of Metal. SpaceHelmetX1 (talk) 11:11, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
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