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Barons, Alberta

I originally posted that High Speed Internet is available to Barons residents by Figment Cablesystems and this post has been persitent despite a lack of citation. We have learned that residents may have line of sight issues. This is due to the fact that when approached village administration said that a tower could not be erected if it exceeded 15 feet (Village bylaws are not posted online and hence no citation is available). This is why I've been attempting to update the post to inform residents they should contact Figment to have their site tested for availabilty.

I find it bothersome that my original post, without citation, persists but the edit is being deleted.

In response I've created an account so that these issues may be resolved via the talk pages. As a new editor I'm very confused by the whole process but with time I hope to figure it out.

How can I keep the edit from being deleted if no citation is available? IDatura (talk) 19:58, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

February 2013

Hello, I'm Tetraedycal. I wanted to let you know that I removed an external link you added to the page Barons, Alberta, because to me it seemed inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thanks, tetraedycal 00:00, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I apologize for the above message, i misunderstood your edit. tetraedycal 00:01, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

tetraedycal, no need to apologize for that edit. I would have done the same, and am about to revert myself. I'll explain below to IDatura.

IDatura, to answer your question left at Category:Barons Alberta (Why would you delete the link to youtube showing the Barons Elevator Demolition yet leave your outdated no longer valid photo up?):

1. First, the link to the YouTube video was deleted per WP:YOUTUBE, which states "Many YouTube videos of newscasts, shows or other content of interest to Wikipedia visitors are copyright violations and should not be linked." As it is not clear if inclusion of this video is a copyright violation, the link to the video has been removed to err on the side of caution.
2. Second, there is nothing wrong with keeping the historic photo of the elevators despite them being demolished. Many articles on Wikipedia have historic photos of buildings that no longer exist.

I'm going to remove the video again per the explanation above. I'm also going to remove the addition to the "Services" section as it is unsourced, and external links within the prose of an article is discouraged per WP:EL, which states "they should not normally be used in the body of an article". Also per WP:EL, "If the website or page to which you want to link includes information that is not yet a part of the article, consider using it as a source for the article, and citing it. Guidelines for sourcing, which includes external links used as citations, are discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Citing sources." It should be noted also that, of the three external links provided, none of those webpages confirm they provide high speed wireless Internet access to Barons. Hwy43 (talk) 03:50, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I didn't notice the reason for the video link the first time removed. I'm the copyright owner but since I can't prove that I will not relink it. If you were to check the Figment page you would see that they do in fact have posted that Barons is serviced by them, don't expect it to be on the home page though! However, the other companies do not so it won't be fair to them to not have the same courtesy of a link. This is unfortunate since the QOS from Figment is inferior compared to the other companies. This is also very unfair to residents of Barons as it makes it harder for them to find a better service. Now for ISP's it just says "numerous" providers and may as well not even be on the page it's like saying a town have numerous gas stations, what's the point? Since I created that section would I be able to delete it or would it now be considered vandalism?

The page says the elevators were demolished, the picture says otherwise, and there is no citation or proof of the demo so does that statement even belong on the page? IMO you may as well have removed my entire statement not just the video link.

An earlier edit regarding the Village attempting another dissolution study with a link to the Lethbridge Herald article...completely removed.

I was trying to contribute to the wiki since it is stagnant and the only changes that have occurred over the last few years have been my additions. Given the requirements mentioned above I will no longer contribute. Too bad as I'm sure all those who edited/deleted my additions have no interest whatsoever in building up the wiki...merely policing it.

Hi IDatura, please reconsider your decision to no longer contribute. It wasn't my intent to discourage you, but rather to help through the explanation.

Community articles on WP typically don't include information ISPs. Such information is more appropriate for a village's municipal website or another mechanism for the village to convey its service providers to its residents. It doesn't appear the village has its own website, and hasn't tapped into other websites available to it like albertacommunityprofiles.com (formerly AlbertaFirst) or SouthGrow. Deleting the Services section as you suggested would be appropriate and would not be considered vandalism.

The caption with the picture now states "Barons' last remaining elevators along the CPR tracks prior to demolition" which is consistent with the new content in the History section. Did the demolition of the elevators receive any coverage in local newspapers such as the Lethbridge Herald? If so, adding a reference to the relevant newspaper article within the History section would be great, and the picture's caption can remain as it summarizes referenced content in the History section.

It was I that removed the content regarding a second dissolution petition attempt. I did so as, in my opinion, the failed second attempt was less notable for an encyclopedia than the 2004 attempt that made it through to the study stage. Giving it a second thought, I think it is worthwhile to return this. I think the "petition calling for an independent audit of Village finances" content should not be returned per WP:NOT#NEWS however, as the event will not have enduring notability.

It should be noted that much of your edits have been retained (i.e., Superman, government and infrastructure content), and I encourage you to continue contributing to this article, supplying references based on reliable sources to support the contributions. Consider utilizing this structure guideline to expand the article. Hwy43 (talk) 08:33, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

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