User talk:Hydkat/Archive 2

Hyderabad, India page

I can't see what's wrong with this change of my bot. Everything looks fine. The four calls to deprecated {{web reference}} have been correctly converted to the new {{cite web}}. There is no visible change on that page caused by that edit. What did I overlook? --Adrian Buehlmann 20:38, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Please have a look at this version of Hyderabad, India. This is the version prior to my bot edit. This version uses the old unchanged {{web reference}}. As you can see, the ref's are not working in that revision already. So my bot edit didn't break anything more. But If you like I can help you fix Hyderabad, India. I would propose to use the same method as in AIDS, if you agree. It uses m:Cite/Cite.php. --Adrian Buehlmann 21:00, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Never mind. No problem. I know this kind of situation. That template stuff is not so easy to spot. It happens to me sometimes too :-). Nobody is perfect. If I can help in any way let me know. Cheers! --Adrian Buehlmann 22:07, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

now I have a new problem... how do I get the linked refs, the template refs, and hardcoded refs in proper order??

I fear you cannot intermix them. There is no way to put things manually into the generated references that m:Cite/Cite.php does. BTW how about using {{cite web}} inside the <ref> [1]? (please note I did not change the text, the diff looks needlessly shocking due to added newlines) --Adrian Buehlmann 22:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Help with Hyderabad, India

Hello Hydkat. I received your request on my talk page.I just dropped in to tell you that I am willing to help out on this. Okay, lets get started! thunderboltz 06:43, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get on it. But I'll be creating stubs mainly, because I'm not very knowledgeable about Hyderabad. thunderboltz 06:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the page List of institutions based in Hyderabad India is not a required one. What should have been made, was a category. That is where all such listings are to be placed, right? So, I say delete the page List of institutions based in Hyderabad India, let the page Education in Hyderabad, India stay, and create a category containing the list of institutions. thunderboltz 14:35, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

EDIT: I just saw that there already is a category called Category:Education in Hyderabad, India. So shall we just add all the institutions given in List of institutions based in Hyderabad India to the category? thunderboltz 14:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

DNA Microarray

"Take that list out!!! It will only lead to trouble for you"

I really don't think you have any idea what you are talking about here. I did not create the list, I converted it from an existing list of external links within the article to a list of internal links. There are many articles that contain embedded lists. I think the only trouble that will arise here is for you, for adding comments like this to people's user pages.

User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 12:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Jamnalal Bajaj

Hello there! Yes, I was going to work on that. It is going to come up as INCOTW next week. It will see a lot of activity. - Ganeshk (talk) 06:23, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Beatles vs Vengaboys

To be honest, I think I'm too young to know if they did. I'll look into it but for simplicity's sake I'll move the Vengaboys song to (Vengaboys song) just in case since the Beatles were around first... and my Grandmother would kill me if they (the Beatles) were second to the Vengaboys. :)

Originalsinner 10:23, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism help

I will look into it. I hope he has been warned using the {{test}} series of templates. If there is no fixed ip, we will block the range of ips. Hope that helps, --Gurubrahma 07:22, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Maruti Omni

Thanks for fixing that, and for letting me know. Bluebot had already made the change, the bad change is a bug I think, and I will pass back to be fixed. Rich Farmbrough

Remove capitals in section headers.  :) I guess you assumed right. Rich Farmbrough 11:38 8 March 2006 (UTC).

Kerala is on the main page!

Yes, thats the first thing I noticed today. :) It was made a featured article this January, I think. This shows the high level of the India related articles. I think South India should be nominated for a featured article too. What do you think? thunderboltz 05:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I think we'll put it up for peer review before nominating. I'll do just that now. ^_^ thunderboltz 06:27, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but it seems that it already has one. :P

I just nominated it for featured article status. :) Check Talk:South India for the nomination badge, and add your comments too. thunderboltz 06:44, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Now lets hope we get positive "barah annas" from other users as well.

PS:You forgot to give the status (whether you support or object) as outlined here. Check out the comments below the previous nominations. thunderboltz 07:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Nichalp has left some really noteworth comments. What do you propose we do about the economy and the copyright issues of the images? thunderboltz 11:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Romila sows communalism

It's great that an encyclopeadic article is created for Ms. Romila Thapar. Under the pretext of being a left leaning Marxist historian, Ms.Romila has authored many anti-Hindu works. She questions the scriptures of Hinduism, but doesn't have the same approach towards other religions. She takes a fanatical extremist anti-Hindu stand. She, of course is a proponent of Western thinking. It is said that the grass on the other side is greener and that is true for people like Ms.Thapar. But she would do well to understand that the grass on the other side, could be poisonous too. Ms.Thapar conveniently says she is fighting communalism. If she says she is secular, and tolerant, then I presume she is culturally tolerant as well. She would be a global citizen. I would request her to go to some theocratic states and preach secularism there. Her tirades against Hinduism are tolerated in India, not just because India is a secular state. Let me tell you that even if India would have been a theocracy (read Hindu Rashtra), she would have been tolerated. Tolerance is in Indian ethos. But if she would have been in a theocracy (like those Islamic states), she would have been severely prosecuted for blasphemy. But she doesn't understand that. She goes on rambling about things that doesn't exist. I am not a Hindutva supporter, but historians like Ms.Thapar make me feel that I should be one. But my true Indian origins stops me from adopting the Hindutva ideology. As far as I dislike Hindutva, I also abhor distorted history lessons of Ms.Thapar. However, as I said it's my personal opinion. I am a liberal and a proponent of free speech, so I would say let this article remain, but make it neutral and I would say let the word "alleged" remain as she doesn't seem to be removing communalism but feeding the Hindutva hate preachers and Islamic fundamentalists as well.

Naamdar Saheb 17:23, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

South India FAC

Hi Hydkat,

I suggested User:Deepujoseph to put South India up for PR. Incidently, you may want to nominate the article for WP:INCOTW as well, since as of now the page has 5 articles and can accomodate one more. Thanks AreJay 19:02, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, hydkat, put it up for WP:INCOTW. That was what we should have done before putting it for FAC. :P There is only one more slot left in the nominations page. Go ahead. thunderboltz 11:35, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

You were sure I'd edit the comments, weren't you? ;) thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}

Re your questions on the peer review. Let's hold that back for now. I just voted for South India in INCOTW - it is currently tied for 1st place with another nomination. I think it stands a good chance of becoming INCOTW pretty soon (as early as next Friday, in fact). Our plan of action should be: accomodate all changes during the INCOTW. Then put the article up for the second PR review as I suggested. Incorporate suggestions during the PR and then move the article for FAC again. Thanks AreJay 22:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Jamnalal

Thanks for the note. All the text I added was from a single source. More references are needed and freedom struggle section needs expanding. And it needs copyediting. Hopefully these could be done this week. - Ganeshk (talk) 11:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Signature

Haha! Is thunderboltz better? I changed it because people kept thinking my username was thunderboltz (which is not). Thunderboltz was what I had given in the nickname field when I signed up. Well, if you too (you are the 2nd person to comment) think thunderboltz is better, then thunderboltz it is. thunderboltz 13:41, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I've solved the issue. Thanks! thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK} 11:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Nopes, I manually include the template. I dont use the ~~~~ thingie. thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK} 14:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

about FASTA

Hi, Hydkat I see you are interested in sequence databases searches. I would not even consider using a pure SW method for searching in a sequence database, BLAST is so much faster and the loss of accuracy is minimal and PSI-BLAST is very sensitive for remote homologues. BLAST uses an approximation of SW for speed improvements, and tends to truncate the hits, I often do a pairwise alignment between query and hit with SW just to check but that is a minor detail. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can be of much help for Comparative genomic hybridization and array-based CGH articles as I am more into protein sequences than DNA and it seems to be more molecular biology than bioinformatics topics. I can suggest you to join the Wikiproject Wikipedia:WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology, you will probably find people who can help better than I can. I'll try to see what I can do for these articles. All the best. Blastwizard 01:35, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi there.

I have just reverted the contents of

IT Industry , BioTech - These sections were close to perfect at one point in time. Now they have totally got messed up with different people coming and editing it. That;s why i have restored it back to its original form.

Let me know in case you have more questions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naveenji (talk • contribs) 12:21, 14 March 2006

Holi Hai!

Thanks for your wishes. Holi Hai! -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 09:33, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too, hydkat! thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}

Holi

Tagging holi image here... User:Hydkat/holigreeting --hydkat 05:59, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Greetings

Holi greetings. --Bhadani 11:49, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I stole the picture from your page ... and shall retuen after a day or two... thanks...--Bhadani 11:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too Hydkat! AreJay 14:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi to you too! I live in USA; so we are out of touch with festivals. This morning I was wishing my collegues, "Happy Holi!". And all of them go "Is it Holi today?". Glad to be part of the Wikipedian Indian community wishing and celebrating together. - Ganeshk (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Changes in FASTA article

Hi, I had a quick look at the modifications, and at the Pearson and Lipman paper, the corrections to the article seem dubious at least for the substitution matrix, the Lipman paper talks about PAM250, so the reference to BLOSUM50 seems dubious. In addition BLOSUM50 is not the one I would use unless working with very low similarities, normally BLOSUM62 is preferred. I use BLAST so I'm not so familiar with FASTA which is a bit out of fashion but as suppose the user can chose the substitution matrix so it can be dependent on the need for the search (sensitivity vs selectivity). I need some more checking for the algorithm as the Lipman paper talks unspecifically of both SW and NW without specifying exactly which one, although my guess would be that it is actually SW. I will make the corrections when I have all the details if noone does it before me. Cheers Blastwizard 12:05, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I Had a look to the paper and did a bit more research, it seems the FASTA servers, such as the one at EBI uses BLOSUM50 as the default matrix, I don't know the rationale behind that but it seems to be correct although in the original paper PAM250 was used, I suppose you should have a look on the article on substitution matrices in particular the differences between PAM and BLOSUM matrices. I read the summary of a paper by Pearson saying that BLOSUM62 should be used instead of BLOSUM50 if the query sequence is shorter. For the algorithm, it seems that the variant LFASTA uses SW for local optimization whereas FASTA uses NW. I suppose the modifications on the FASTA article can be considered as correct. In addition I've been a bit cheeky and although the editor was anonymous, I traced the IP address to virginia.edu where FASTA is maintained so it is likely that the editor has good idea on FASTA. Blastwizard 15:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holi

Hi, happy Holi. I left a message on talkpage of Romila Thapar and the user, The Patroller. btw, an image being sent in a chain mail doesn't mean that it is ineligible for copyright, it only means that there have been multiple copyright violations. --Gurubrahma 04:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Peace, Dude

Sorry, man, I didn't check the context of the issue.I was pretty hard-pressed for time. So just thought it was an edit war leading to vandalism. Sorry for that. Bye for now and chill.

Patrolling the ocean called Wikipedia|Tell me about vandals, violations and more... 05:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Peer Review

Hello! I was wondering if you'd like to submit Hyderabad, India for a peer review. thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK} 10:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Protein-protein interaction prediction

Hi. Are you aware of this new page: Protein-protein interaction prediction? It was off to an unlucky start, being listed on Articles for Deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.28.143 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 17 March 2006

Hello

I'm going to be away from wikipedia for the next few weeks. Going off to stay in a hostel ( =Jail ) to prepare for an exam (JEE, AIEEE, CAT and AKEEE) that's coming up. I'll probably be back by 20th April. So that's four weeks without computers, internet and TV for me.  :((
I'll be leaving tomorrow morning. So see you on 20th (if I'm still alive then). thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK} 13:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Muaaaah! I dont want to go there! Its a horrible place. And I'm sick tired of exams (Its been a saga of exams for the past four months). I wonder when the Indian system of Education is going to change. Its draining the life out of me. thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}

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My RfA

	My RfA
	Thank you for supporting/opposing/commenting on my request of adminship, sadly the result was 54/20/7 an thus only 73% support votes, resulting in that the nomination failed. As many of you commenting that I have to few main-space edits, I'll try to better my self on that part. If you have any ideas on what kind of articles I could edit, pleas send me a line. :)	→AzaToth 09:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

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Happy Birthday

Enjoy! Cheers, Sango123 (e) 16:33, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

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DaGizza's RfA

Thanks!

Hi Hydkat/Archive 2, thank you for supporting me in my RfA which passed with a tally of (93/1/2). If you need any help or wish discuss something with me, you are always welcome to talk to me. Gizza^{Chat ©} 12:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

R2 Q3

Thanks. But, I guess that Gurubrahma asked for the connect. Though I got the pieces correct, my connection seems flawed now. Thats why I had posted the connect as I saw it.

As they say "They way you win it is more important than winning itself" SparkPlug(Lg1983) 12:59, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

De-b'crating

Thank you for your message on my talk page. I made my decision to step down first, asked for it to be done, then posted the message stating that it had been done. This is because there are more important things to worry about in certain fora than lots of people trying to persuade me not to do something when I had made my mind up to do it. I'm still an admin, I think I'm a good admin, and it's good to know that people still trust me. I'm not a bureaucrat however, and that process has already been carried out. Thank you for suggesting it should be otherwise, however. -- Francs2000 14:53, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Edit anniversary

Thanks for the kind words, Hydkat! Those Chocolate Chocolate-Chip Cookies sound great, by the way. :) Cheers! Regards, Sango123 (e) 03:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the cheers! Next one is biomarker. Did you see how messy it is now? Miguel Andrade 20:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

thanks, Hydkat, for the shift and update of Biomarker (medicine). also, thanks for the welcome! Jax 17:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Working on biomarker!

Hold it an hour please! :-) Miguel Andrade 16:03, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I leave it here! Created molecular marker (disambiguation), unified with biomarker (disambiguation), created redirects from molecular marker and biomarker. Modified a bit biosignatures. I have a problem with biomarker (chemicals). On the one hand most of these markers we are talking about are chemicals. On the other hand, the subject is a bit strange (abiotic origin of petroleum? where do you find a sea of Carbon if not through organic accumulation?). What to do with that one? Rename? Include in the biosignatures entry? Miguel Andrade 16:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Agree! The term Biomarker (petroleum) looks perfect. It is also true that it is part of the Biosignature, geology part. One could split Biosignature in three articles, one for Astrobiology, one for Geology (which is not too different from the Astrobiology one in some respects) including the petroleum biomarkers, and one for Medicine.Miguel Andrade 02:24, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah! Yes! That was missing. Added link to Biomarker (petroleum) in Biomarker. Miguel Andrade 16:01, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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Got your point

Yeah, I got your point. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 03:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Nakashi art

Fixed the article per your suggestion. - Ganeshk (talk) 14:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Ya, you can say I'm back. But just to write an exam on Sunday. I'll leave again on Monday (and return again for the Holy week). And guess what, one of my exams has been postponed to May 16 'coz of the elections here.  :((
And ohh...a belated Happy Birthday to you. Hope you had a great day. God bless. :)
thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK} 15:30, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh c'mooooon. Every man needs some rest. I did log in just now.
Great to know South India made it. Yay! Congrats, hydkat. thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}

Yipeeeeeeee! I got leave for the entire week! Too many holidays this week - Milad-e-sherif, Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, Vishu and Easter. So see you around this week. ;-)::
My exam was fine, considering that I went for it with hardly a month's training. thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}

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Re:Lothal

Hi Hydkat - thanks for your support and compliments on Lothal. I was very lucky to see it, and very thankful for the honor. My trip to Bombay and Gujarat were great, and I got some fresh materials for Wikipedia as well - too bad you live in Hyderabad, we could have easily met. Cheers, and lemme know whenever I can be of assistance. Rama's Arrow 18:03, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

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Hi! Please see Talk:Kolkata_trivia for the issue you raised. Thanks.--Dwaipayanc 07:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Yup I did some quick glancing through the pages that came up via Google. It was really nice to know the way Ross conducted the research. Really marvellous. Both cities should mention their association! Bye.--Dwaipayanc 09:52, 13 April 2006 (UTC)