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Re: Bali Sacrifice

Thanks for the Nihang link at Hazur Sahib. This tradition "Shastar Tilak" goes back 300 years or even further, to Kshhatriya Hindu warrioir traditions. Who knows out of the many hundreds of Sikhs that accompanied the 10th Guru, there maybe Saini Sikhs who settled at Hazur Sahib and helped carry on the tradition. Thanks--Sikh-History 14:07, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. There are Sikhs of all castes at Hazur Sahib, Sainis, Jat, Kalals, Ramgharhia,etc --History Sleuth (talk) 02:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

August 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Bali (sacrifice), but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. Sikh-History 19:19

Again, SH, you are preaching to a choir. See below quote from your own source which directly testifies to goat sacrifice at Hazur Sahib and Patna Sahib. There is no violation of WP:SYN or WP:NOR here:

"The tradition of ritually sacrificing goats and consuming Mahaparshad remains alive not only with the Nihang Singh Dals, but also at Sachkhand Sri Hazoor Sahib and Sachkhand Sri Patna Sahib (two of the Sikhs holiest shrines). "

Source: http://www.nihangsingh.org/website/trad-jhatka.html

Note that this is your own source. Thanks.--History Sleuth (talk) 00:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Please stop discussing editors and discuss the topic. That is a website. You are again confusing Bali sacrifice, which is a specific Hindu ritual refered to in ancient Hindu texts, with that of the Nihung rituals, which is not Bali. Bali sacrifice is a very specific term.If you can, please find reliable sources with ISBN refernces that state Bali sacrifice is part of the Sikh faith. You will find there is not a single one. In fact Guru Granth Sahib ji condems sacrifice at several levels, arguing that ritually purifying meat eg Bali, Kosher, Halal, offers no merit. The prayer prior to killing of the goat is a blessing. They are not offering the blood of the animal to God. They are giving thanks for the food they are about to recieve. The exact same is done before Kara Prashad and hence why it is called Mahaprashad. Like you I confused the issue, but have had several direct conversations with the Nihung Jathas. The use of the word sacrifice is often done in error on websites. The same is done by translators of the Gur Granth Sahib ji, a fact pointed out by authors of "Fools who Wrangle Over Flesh". Condeming of "sacrifice" however, does not mean Guru Granth Sahib ji condems eating meat however. I have removed your text and not issued a warning because you are making the exact mistake I did several years ago. I urge you to research this issue further, and not condem it as "revisionist". Thanks --Sikh-History 08:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

PS Thanks for pointing out references to "sacrifice" and "sacrificing" on that website, but there is not a mention of Bali anywhere. Regards--Sikh-History 08:35, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I sense you are now resorting to WP:Point and wikilawyering. The word "Bali" is merely and Sanskrit version of English word "Sacrifice". The references that you deleted were all from WP:RS and one of them was posted by you to make your own point earlier. I request you not to make WP:TLDR posts either on the discussion pages or on my discussion page. I just cleaned my discussion page from clutter and there we go again. Thanks.--History Sleuth (talk) 12:21, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

You are discussing me again. Discuss the subject. Would you say Dabiha sacrifice (Islamic) or Sechita Sacrifice (Jewish), was part of the Hindu tradition? It would be an emphatic no. In the same context Bali (sacrifice) (note sacrifice was put in brackets to differentiate from Bali, the place), is a very specific sacrifice, and that is what the article is about. You are more than welcome to add your references to Nihungs, or creat a Nihung sacrifice article. This is clearly WP:OR, and WP:Synthesis. Like I said before, this argument you are presenting was lost by me several years ago.Thanks--Sikh-History 12:42, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Now This I Woul Love to See On Youtube

I would love to see this on Youtube:

A western Sikh, witness to the goat sacrifice this year during the celebrations had to bear the brunt of the local Sikhs when he objected to this ritual. He was beaten up badly and was saved by devotees gathered there.

Thanks --Sikh-History 08:45, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

The Takhts of Hazur Sahib and Patna Sahib do not accept SGPC Maryada. That is why this guy was beaten up because he was interfering with a centuries old custom very sacred to Hazuri Sikhs and Nihangs. Thanks.--History Sleuth (talk) 12:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

You'll Be Glad to Know

You'll be glad to know, that an admin has weighed in at article previously known as Bali (sacrifice. So there is no need to WP:Canvass anyone. Thanks and Best Wishes--Sikh-History 13:05, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Upanishads

Your recent edit restored the article to a vandal and sockpuppets version.[1] You removed 30% of Ambedkar content and 70% of Radhakrishanan, Ranade and other good sources - see above [2]. The article is now damaged in the lead and other places and it now provides wrong information about Vedas being one of the three scriptures on which the later vedantic schools have been based. I'm requesting you to undo your edit and remove the allegedly contentious content about Ambedkar. We can then have a discussion here about how and whether to include Ambedkar or Huxley quotes. Zuggernaut (talk) 23:47, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

It's been about three weeks since the Shankaracharya edit. I think we should go ahead and remove it since other editors haven't expressed any objections. Thanks. Zuggernaut (talk) 06:32, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Response to groundless warning

Hello, a permabanned user cannot create a new account. since you are sock of permabanned user:Satyashodak, you don't have any right to edit this wikipedia, even anonymously. You can contest the decision on satyashodak page only. i have tagged you once again and listed too under socks of satyasodak. removing the tag unlists you so you should not do that too. i hope you understand. Ikon ^No-Blast 18:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you first issue a warning to yourself? I checked your history you have been banned many times because of sockpupptery and other vandalism. This account has been scrutinzed many times by established Admins. The use is permissible as no attempt has been made to evade scrutiny or conceal the fact that it is an alternate account. I have gone extra step to make the full disclosure. The content dispute I had was on Hinduism and Buddhism article and the Admin had never banned me permanently. Please stop vandalizing my page. If you disagree involve a neutral admin. Thanks.--History Sleuth (talk) 00:29, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

You are wrong. Although I was blocked on some occasions, I was never blocked for Sockpuppetry or Vandalism. It was because of disputes on multiple topics with various socks of user:Hkelkar & user:VandalPetrol, both of which are permabanned. I have never used any other account. If you are permitted to edit then you should get other accounts deleted which says you are indeffed. Ikon ^No-Blast 13:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

To whom it may concern: Although I am at liberty to delete this malicious warning and other pointless content left on my own user page but I am letting the remarks of this user (who himself has received multiple bans and warning in the past) stay. But for those of neutral editors, whom he is trying to mislead about my "permaban", I would like to inform that I received only a temporary ban for a week which expired on 11 May 2009 on the account Satyashodak I was allowed to keep using. I would also like to add that I was temporarily banned by Admin "YellowMonkey" who himself has faced criticism from other seasoned admins for his aggressive and controversial moderation and violation of wiki guidelines like "Assume Good Faith", uncalled for permanent page protections, etc. I am not even sure whether he has been able to retain his Admin privileges.

This user is trying to tarnish my contribution making ad hominem attacks and is trying to drum up a baseless controversy on the basis of one-off content dispute almost 2 years ago on Hinduism and Buddhism article , an article I have not edited since May 2009. Other than this one-off incident I have never had any conflict or any incident of personal nature with any other fellow wikipedian. The use of this alternate account is in accordance with wikipedia policy for alternate accounts and the full disclosure to this effect is made both on user page and to admins. The two other accounts I had created during my exploratory phase , per wiki guidelines, have NOT been in use since May 2009. If any admin has any question about my conributions, they should feel free to contact me anytime assuming good faith. Please also note that I consider this user's unprovoked attacks on my user page as harrasment and this is the last he would get any response from me in this reference. Thanks.--History Sleuth (talk) 03:51, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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Thanks!--History Sleuth (talk) 23:15, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Fix ref. errors

Hi, Take a look into List of Saini clans article and fix References cite error. --¢ℓαяк (talk) 04:11, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Error fixed by AnomieBOT. --¢ℓαяк (talk) 07:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

out-of-context so-called "definition"

How is anyone who doesn't already know all about the t-distribution supposed to understand this when you omitted all explanation of what t values are and the fact that this applies to populations that are normally distibuted? Michael Hardy (talk) 14:06, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

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I added two different references from reliable sources and removed the tag. There are more references available but for now these two look sufficient to retain a stub. Thanks --History Sleuth (talk) 03:34, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Ouch!

Thanks for fixing this error. Fat finger syndrome on my part, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 01:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

No worries!--History Sleuth (talk) 01:50, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Diet In Sikhism Dispute

Hi Fellow Editor, I think you have some expertise in this. Could I have your input here please. ThanksSH 14:57, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

PBUH

Have you read WP:SAWW - and the rest of the page? Dougweller (talk) 21:06, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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