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Playtime Revisited

Quietly correcting the spelling of Les Neuf Sœurs must not have been all "playtime". I never thanked you for it. I'm doing it now with added moral support for 'Playtime'. That is what the movie was about : Playtime ( the carousel reflected in the window of the skyscraper ...remember ?) It certainly was not about Playing Time. (Ingmar Bergman could have made that one I guess)

Of course PlayTime remains an option ( qua Tativille )

:-) (Lunarian 13:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC))

• Thanks a lot. I learnt something with this article.Hektor 15:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Helen Sharman

Not sure if you are able or inclined to help. I have read the article on Helen Sharman, which incorrectly states that she lit the flame at the 1991 Universiade in Sheffield. I was present at the event and saw what happened, as did several thousand other people in person and probably at least several hundred thousand on television. However, as an eyewitness description of the event counts for nothing on wikipedia, I wonder if you could help. You apparently have a copy of Ms. Sharman's autobiography. Could you please cite it, if possible, as a source corroborating that in reality Ms. Sharman did NOT light the flame, but in fact fell over, dropped the burning part of the torch on the track, and merely waved the handle at the flame, which lit automatically. It was one of the most cringingly embarrassing things I've ever seen in my life. Of course, it's entirely possible that Ms. Sharman has omitted to mention this event in her book. If so, I apologise for wasting your time.

• There is no reference about any of this in her book, which is focused on her early life and her space flight. Hektor 08:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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Regarding Anna Marek

You have recently re-created the article Anna Marek, which was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policies. Please do not re-create the article. If you disagree with the article's deletion, you may ask for a deletion review. SkerHawx 12:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

• • The person who has deleted the article has made a lousy work. You cannot even use the talk page. Hektor 12:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

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• • Have you seen my background. I have spent HUNDREDS of hours editing and improving wikipedia and you are treating me as if I was some stupid newcomer. This is disgusting.

Gamesbids

The policy says : "Consider adding the article to your watchlist and letting the article's creator know that you have tagged it" I have discovered today that you have deleted this article, obviously without letting me know that you have tagged it. Although the policy is not mandatory, I consider the way you handled this as bad manner. I would have liked to argue against the deletion. Hektor 18:57, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not the one who either tagged or deleted it. Check the deletion log again: 10:57, October 11, 2006 Merope (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Gamesbids" (CSD R1 content was: '{{db-r1}}#REDIRECT GamesBids')

- UtherSRG (talk) 19:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

• Then I have to present my most sincere apologies. Hektor 19:05, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Accepted. And looking further, you didn't edit the article, so why whould someone notify you?

Page history

   * 10:54, October 11, 2006 . . Moe Epsilon (Talk | contribs | block) ({{db-r1}})
   * 14:12, May 2, 2005 . . 82.127.151.89 (Talk | block)

- UtherSRG (talk) 19:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

• • As far as I remember, I created it. I have not changed my user name since I started wikipedia. I don't say it shouldn't be deleted, after all who am I to judge instead of the consensus ? but I would have appreciated to go through the non-accelerated processus. Thanks for the heads up. Hektor 19:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
    • You (the person) may very well have created it, but it appears that you were not logged in when you did. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Looking even further, I *did* delete GameBids (note the capitalization): 10:58, October 10, 2006 UtherSRG (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "GamesBids" ({{prod}} > 5 days)

The last edit was the prod'ing by Peta 5 days earlier:

1. 03:13, October 5, 2006 . . Petaholmes (Talk | contribs | block) (prod)

And the first edit was by the same anon as above:

1. 05:15, April 29, 2005 . . 82.127.193.67 (Talk | block)

Your first edit of the article was about 8 months later, perhaps when you created your account:

1. 06:03, December 11, 2005 . . Hektor (Talk | contribs | block)

My suggestion is to take all of the articles you create or have a significant interest in and add them to your watchlilst, and regularly check the list.

My apologies for any frustrations the deletion has caused. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:09, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

• I fear you're right, I probably created it at a time when you still could create articles without being logged. Anyway, I will try a deletion review, to see if we can reach a consensus. Thanks for checking again and for the time you spent on this. Hektor 20:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Buffon

I think there has to be a bit of give and take here. There have been multiple edits with this article and its redirects. I've redirected it now to the Buffon disambiguation page. This is where IMO it should be redirected and suits all parties. Niall123 20:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

• I just can't get it, on one hand a ball pusher in short pants and on the other a great scientist.... It's like if Einstein was a disambiguation page between the physicist and the bagel shop.Hektor 20:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

While Buffon the naturalist has done more for human civilisation than Buffon the goalkeeper, I'm fairly sure that when people type Buffon into the wikipedia search bar, for the most part they are probably looking for the goalkeeper. I think this way strikes a better balance and in the long run should hopefully keep everyone happy. I'd imagine that if you left it directing to Buffon the naturalist you will have an endless amount of redits to back. I'll keep an eye on this to make sure it doesn't go to BUffon the goalkeeper. Niall123 17:13, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I hope we don't do that later with Socrates. Hektor 17:21, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

STS-120

You have recently vandalized the article STS-120. This is really not a good idea and could result in your being blocked. Hektor 11:41, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

This was due to a bug in loading the page in CorHomo and I wasn't aware of the problem. You can see from my edit summary that I was in the process of disambiguating links to the word Japanese, one of which is still on the STS-120 page and which I will fix now. I'm not sure why it loaded the arc page instead of STS-120, but if you had looked at my contributions it would have been clear I was editing in good faith. Vandalism and human/machine error are not the same thing. Dekimasu 15:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, perfect. Hektor 16:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Linda Ham and SNL

On the Linda Ham talk page back in August, you mentioned seeing an old SNL episode that parodied her. You were right! I just found the transcript, and am considering mentioning it in the article. Thanks for bringing it to attention. MLilburne 08:12, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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• I can't provide a replacement image because this car is only sold in China and I haven't access to this country and can't afford the trip. Hektor 20:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

desole mon ami mais pas grave! le vin rouge est trop plus quel que foi. Allors, salut et bon sourerais

Albertville article

Hello, I noticed you are offering a bounty for the article Albertville. I've copied over all the text from the equivalent french wikipedia article, but I don't know what else can be added? Madder 15:31, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Please use Preview

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• Ah ah.Hektor 15:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Tennislover

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. I hardly ever check my history until today so thanks for keeping an eye on it. If you have any questions leave them on my talk page. Thanks!.Tennislover 02:42, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks

Now he must use AfD. --Haham hanuka 20:21, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

• Am doing that because one day when I came back after a break Anna Marek was deleted and protected. :( . Since then I tend not to like it when an article is prodded without warning the creator. This is really a sneaky way to delete an article.Hektor 20:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Anna Marek

My guess is that the crux of this problem is WP:PORN_BIO. The criteria put forth are pretty stern; Anna Marek apparently doesn't meet them. I understand the need for stringent notability criteria when porn stars are concerned; the reasons are obvious. But what does it all mean? It could only be one of the following:

1. WP:PORN_BIO is too narrow and should be changed.
2. We are in fact mistaken, and Anna Marek is indeed not a notable actress.

I somehow don't see #2 as compelling. As for #1, notice that the first criterion per WP:PORN_BIO are awards, which are all American. And that's it, I'm out of ideas... GregorB 20:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Good to see things moving. I'd say I made some decent points, if I may say so myself... GregorB 22:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Now this really begins to stink. I thought that deletion requires rough consensus, and the votes were nowhere near consensus. The admin chose to discount "Keep" votes on grounds that writing an article about someone without reliable sources is "not a good idea at all". Well, the last time I checked the admin does not get to decide what is and what isn't a good idea: this defeats the whole purpose of the discussion. It's a procedural error. I'd like to see this issue escalated. GregorB 20:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Assent, what is the right procedure? Another deletion review? Also see my comment on WP:PORNBIO talk page. MadMaxDog 06:01, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

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EADS Astrium etc.

Hektor, I don't know how many times I have to ask you to provide references. It is up to the contributor of new information to cite their sources. You have not. Mark83 16:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

• Sure and I made the new logo with Photoshop... Hektor 18:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Lee So Yeon / Yi So Yeon

Hi Hektor, why do you move the article about Lee So Yeon to Lee So Yeon (judoka) and replace the original with a disamb page to the judoka page + a link to an astronaut named Yi So Yeon. This is not necessary in my opinion, as Lee is not the same as Yi. It might almost sound the same, but I don't see any reason why to change this. Can you clarify your edit please? SportsAddicted | discuss 00:48, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

• The issue is that according to the source (Korea Herald, Korea Times, spacefacts, ...) you find both spellings for this astronaut Lee So Yeon or Yi So Yeon. So I wanted to make sure you would find her. Any other solution which would provide the same result is fine with me.Hektor 07:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Hmm in that case we can leave it like that yes. SportsAddicted | discuss 15:49, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Oh I see you already made another solution, which probably is even better. SportsAddicted | discuss 15:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

François Baroin

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2007: (International) Year of the Dolphin

Thanks for helping out with 2007: (International) Year of the Dolphin and the corrections in wiki-pages with link to the designated (International) Patron of the Year of the Dolphin: H.S.H. Prince Albert II of Monaco. - ( Brabo 03:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC) ).

2009 World Baseball Classic Redirection

Hey, I noticed the back-and-forth between you and Chriscf on this article. I suggested to Chriscf that it would be in everyone's best interests if future changes of the magnitude he's proposing were discussed on the Talk page to reach consensus. I wanted to let you know that I posted a message to this effect on that article's Talk page, as well.

Happy editing! --SuperNova |T|C| 08:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Orion/Minotaur

NASA does not intend to fly the whole Orion on the Minotaur, just the escape system. Take a look at this article on NasaSpaceflight.com, which is cited as the source for the information in the article. --GW_Simulations_{User Page | Talk} 14:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

• I think that the people who wrote this article have no idea what they are talking about, such a test would have no demonstration value. You need the mass properties and aerodynamics of the capsule for a proper flight demonstration. Hektor 14:18, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • They claim that the information came from NASA employees. I don't know whether this is the case or not, but in the absense of anything else, it's the best we've got to go on. --GW_Simulations_{User Page | Talk} 14:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
    • I think anyway that the details of these tests (which start in 2009) will be probably provided soon by NASA. My guess is a Little Joe type vehicle, i.e. a cluster of 3-4 ICBM stages united in a common body. Time will tell. Hektor 14:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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Astronaut infobox

I read the discussion several times and don't see the consensus that you're describing. Of the four space tourist infoboxes, one was already labeled a spaceflight participant and, for consistency, I updated the other three. Feel free to propose another designation. Regards Rillian 17:03, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

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Your edits to Sebastien Loeb

I am disappointed to see that you cannot respond to my comments on the talk page in order to justify your poorly worded and inappropriate statement, and choose instead to return it to the article in a form that verges on the use of weasel words and reads like a comment from a fan, without even providing an edit summary. Adrian M. H. 21:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

This shows the statement as it was before you chose to edit it again. Your revision is an improvement in terms of the problems that I have outlined above, though I still must question the validity of commenting in that manner on a developing event. We don't do that with other driver bios. Adrian M. H. 21:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

You are a mean one Mr Grinch. Hektor 21:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is no place for childish comments. Evidently, you cannot discuss things maturely. Which is a pity, because it only serves to undermine your arguments and diminish your contributions to Wikipedia. If that is typical of how you conduct yourself, then I suggest that you review your approach to discussions with other editors. Adrian M. H. 21:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you drink a glass of milk and eat a cookie.Hektor 21:48, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I find your attitude unacceptable, and your comments are sailing close to the bounds of Wikipedia:Etiquette. I strongly suggest that you respect policy, which includes making appropriate edits and being prepared to discuss and justify those edits in an adult manner. Unless and until you can bring yourself to do that, I will not take part in any further editorial discussions with you, and will keep a close eye on your contributions to the rallying project. Adrian M. H. 21:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Sunita Williams Previous Flights

Ok What I am Doing is Couning The Fights on her schedules so i am counting each of the flights u see as 1 each

1. sts-116- Launch To ISS 2. Expedition 14- 1st part of long duration stay 3. Expedition 15- 2nd part of stay 4. sts-118-Return to Earth —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jamesbondfan (talk • contribs) 01:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC).

• This is all the same flight. Hektor 06:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Nationality of astronauts

You said in the edit summary of your revert of my (possibly erroneous) categorisation of Gregory Chamitoff: "rv - NASA astronauts are US citizens." Are you sure? They obviously live in the US, but that does not make all of them American astronauts. Wubbo Ockels was a Dutch astronaut, Sultan bin Salman bin Abdulaziz al-Saud was a Saudi astronaut, Takao Doi was a Japanese astronaut, etcetera etcetera etcetera. Aecis^Bravado 22:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

• The guys you are mentioning are not NASA astronauts (Ockels was an ESA astronaut, Doi is a JAXA astronaut, al-Saud was a Saudi prince flying as Payload Specialist). All NASA astronauts are NASA employees, i.e. US civil servants, which requires US citizenship. Hektor 22:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Ko San

First, please use edit summaries. Secondly, "Easter-egg links" (links which promise to go to an article, such as year, but in fact take the reader to a different article) are at best controversial, but fairly generally disliked. Thirdly, as the article states that he's not yet an astronaut, but has been chosen as one possiblity for a future mission, the astronaut category is incorrect. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

• In this case you have to modify all the articles about the NASA astronauts who haven't flown yet. Please check the wikipedia article astronaut. It says "An astronaut or cosmonaut is a person who has chosen space travel as a profession". I don't read there or anywhere that he/she needs to have flown in space to be an astronaut. Hektor 19:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

  First, you're still not using edit summaries; it is very strongly encouraged that you do, if only as a courtesy to other editors. Secondly, this person has clearly not chosen as a profession to be an astronaut, as the article tells us about his profession. There's no indication that he has received any training, or anything that would justify his being called an astronaut. You also don't adress the issue of the Easter-egg link, which you've also replaced without explanation. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 19:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

  He is currently training at Star City, where he arrived by mid January 2007, since the flight is in April 2008. And his profession is astronaut, since is salary is paid by the Korean Space Agency KARI and that this training activity is his only way to get this salary. Obviously you have not read The Korea Times article referenced in the article "Beginning February, the two finalists will undergo 14 months of training including a year-long session at the Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center in Russia." Hektor 19:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

With regard to your odd message on my Talk page, the opinion of anyone isn't the point; the article doesn't describe him as an astronaut, but as "a researcher at the Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology". The article also says that he might (or might not) go into space, though he hasn't. To call him an astronaut goes against normal English-language usage of the term.

Moreover, the idea that someone has to read a newspaper article in order to get relevant information is peculiar; if it's true, and relevant, why haven't you put it into the article instead of just reverting my edits without proper explanation? Why did it take a long discussion before you even mentioned it? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 20:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

• There are tens of astronauts-in-training which are listed as astronauts in wikipedia. Why you want to make of Ko San an exception is a complete mystery to me. All I know is that he is training in Star City since February 2007 and that he is paid for that by KARI. Hektor 20:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid that you're not reading what I've written. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

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Garn != Astronaut

Not sure which NASA bio you're referring to, but the word "Astronaut" does not appear in the bio page linked from the Garn article. NASA does not consider Garn a professional astronaut. Rillian 15:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

• The title of the page is "Payload Specialist Astronaut Bio: Jake Garn" Chck the source code of the html page. Hektor 18:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
  • See also the following NASA press release : FORMER ASTRONAUT AND NAC MEMBER CARRIES OLYMPIC DREAM TO UTAH. So you know better than NASA ? Hektor 18:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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Question: posted on Lisa Marie Nowak

hi!

you asked what 1st degree murder meant in Florida. basically, murder is the act of killing someone with premeditation or planning and/or in the commission of other serious crimes, like arson, rape, burglary, etc.

the title of "first degree" murder is more related to the judicial processing. first degree murder is the most serious act of murder and therefore carries heavier jail, restitution, probationary, etc. sentencing. the assigning of 1st degree murder is usually given to those who actually & physically committed the crime, whereas, someone that only contributed (like an accomplice) would get 2nd degree murder and would therefore be subject to lesser jail time.

Florida is one of the states that believes very much in capiutal punishment. depending on their current statutes and their prison population, persons convicted of 1st degree murder with special circumstance (premeditation, use of an illegal weapon, heinousness)usually received a sentence of death. the prosecutor recommends the sentence that person should be given at the start of the trial, but it is ultimately up to the jury to determine what punishment shall be handed down. A jury may well grant her 25 years to life. Life usually meaning the equation of her age + how many years she is expected to live. (ie: if a person is 25 years old and the court feels that person can live until age 60, then their life sentence is 35 years).

there are several other issues that depend on the court case, whethere she pleads insanity, sentencing, etc. so this is not such an easy question.

if you are interested, murder in Florida is described in their penal code, Title XLVI, Section 782 (782.04 specifically) here: >2006->Ch0782->Section%2004#0782.04|Florida Penal Code

--HatchetFaceBuick 19:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)