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I refer you to warnings about unreferenced content you have received elsewhere on this page. FDW777 (talk) 08:05, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello. I've never known an Editor yet on here who's ever wasted an opportunity to be ungracious; no, that's not quite true, there was one occasion when the personality behind the reply suggested something like affability; but its do rare. And yet, this great organization is entirely dependent upon the opportunities for good will I've seen squandered in abrupt exchanges tome anf time again. Nevet mind, never mind; I'll teach myself how to. You know, I'm sure that it's only either life-long interests in particular subjects, or altruism, that keeps many volunteering their time; after all, there's no welcome mat to wear out. I'll move on, I think. Some regards to you. Heath St John (talk) 19:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Airbag, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Notfrompedro (talk) 21:02, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Notfrompedro. I noticed that you made a comment on the page User talk:Notfrompedro that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Notfrompedro (talk) 23:14, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:Notfrompedro. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Stop posting personal attacks on my talk page. You need to use references when you add material. Just do that and everything works itself out. Continue harassing me and I may have to escalate things. Notfrompedro (talk) 23:26, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

A frank exchange of opinions is not an "Attack". Hearing views different from one's own, and feeling "Attack" (ed) bespeaks pride, I think. To me, it's conversation; sometimes more, sometimes less pleasant than others. Please: I'd like to stop now, as the responses I've received have failed to encourage me it's worthwhile. Thanks in advance for your co-operation. Heath St John (talk) 23:56, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

(The above was also left on Notfrompedro's Talk page, which I record here to re-emphasizr that I did not ignore. I mention its absence from there, now, (as I predicted in the 'Airbag' page), I now formerly note here, instead; its being corroboration in part of impressions gifted to me by the other. Heath St John (talk) 19:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at David Kirch, you may be blocked from editing. Notfrompedro (talk) 20:52, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

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Re your recent edit to the Ightham article, I've removed the text you added and deleted it from the public archive of the article. This is for two reasons, firstly it was unrefereced original research. Secondly, and far mor importantly, it was deleted for privacy and security reasons. As we are dealing with a living person WP:BLP applies. There are good reasons as to why the person in question should not have his home easily identifiable via a Wikipedia article. Please do not do this again. Mjroots (talk) 16:13, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello.

Thanks for your interest in my work.

The efforts you make on behalf of people's privacy are valuable, but, in this instance, your advice is mis-dire red. I should be willing to accept the scolding, (i.e., " Please do not do this again again"), if it were as merited as the unreceived thanks contributors receive. A review of my edit using more concentration shall show you that it wasn't placed there by me, but by whoever made the prior one. Since being placed there, (again, not by me), Wikipaedia's editors need to explain why they let it remain; and, let it remain improperly formatted. As for my link to Roger K. Furse, I don't yet know if that's been removed; I hope not, because that wasn't my "...original research". Its on his late sister's, Judith Furse's main page, and, again, wasn't my :... original research" there, either. More encouragements to volunteers freely-giving of their time, enabling professional editors to remain busy, should be appreciated. I thank you for the work you do, but I continue to regret the discouraging tone of disciplinarianism editors use, (in this case wrongly directed, too), to those whose selfless efforts make their employment possible. Heath St John (talk) 16:38, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Oops, my bad! Please accept my apologies. Have tried to revdel the previous editor's entry but am getting an error message, so I've raised the issue at WP:AN. Will communicate with the other editor once we've managed to get a revdel done. I'm glad I didn't slap a templated warning here now. Thought it would be better to try to explain things. I've not looked at the Furse situation, and am not minded to. Mjroots (talk) 17:40, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello. That humbling reply shall always serve you as possibly your greatest testimonial, on here. A character trait of which you should be proud. Heath St John (talk) 17:54, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Even admins can make mistakes! Thing is to admit when you are wrong and move on. Revdel now done, and the edits will also be oversighted. Words had with offending editor. Mjroots (talk) 17:57, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Heath St John, I was just helping my colleague, Mjroots out with the rev deletion - looks like something was glitching for them. Without being too specific, the last editor before you had inserted an unsourced assertion about exactly where a celebrity lives in the village, which obviously has privacy implications and needed to be hidden from public view. I think Mj just looked at the wrong edit when they were trying to work out who to speak to about not doing that again - there was nothing wrong with your edit.

Can I just clear up a slight misconception you seem to have while I'm here? Mj and I are both site administrators, but we're also volunteers, just like you - we don't get paid to edit here, it's a hobby. Anyone who is actually employed by the Wikimedia Foundation has to has 'WMF' after their username, and you don't find them editing articles - they leave that to the likes of you and me! cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 18:01, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello. I used 'employed', loosely. I never imagined there was any income. I praised MJ before for the great character he obviously has; I do so again, here. You only have to read some of the know-it-all comments on You Tube, for example, to know, too, that such a one isn't always to be met with. It's more impressive than never making a mistake. A very valuable asset. Heath St John (talk) 21:41, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

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Good evening. Do you know what?: don't bother !. I resign. I'll leave with a message that I have given before, (at a length when I still felt enough optimism that, by my example, my indulgent manners might influence some Editors out of their egregious, inexcusable aggression) ; but this time, this time, really do mean. Never have I encountered, in most part, not in all, it's true, but in most part, such perfection in how to set a public example of belligerent ingratitude as I have from most Wikipaedia editors. Before I withdraw, after years of ingratitude, for the sake of this Website which I hope may eventually be represented in its spirit by Editor's currently mostly in their manhers unworthy of its great aims, I think the whole affair of how the abrupt disciplinarianism, the ugly imperiousness of most can best be symbolically described is represented by the old, fine idea of nobody in a vocation being allowed to wear a uniform out of hours. Given the appalling dismissiveness that I've read in some of the exchanges between Editors and other kindly volunteers, and I'm not refering to the obvious vandals who need watching, some of those volunteers who have been persuaded long ago to abandon demagogues to rule their petty kingdoms should have loved to have met them publically after identifying them in some Wikipaedia uniform, so that they could try and reinform them how to speak with just a snuff of manners and grace. I'll just say goodbye now, try and close my Account, divert my funds elsewhere, and wish the Site which I came to care for very much indeed better representation in the future. I muster some very regretful but sadly necessary regards to you. Goodbye. Heath St John (talk) 23:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Or, you could just start citing sources when you make your edits. You've been informed and warned about it many, many times above. It's not that difficult. TJRC (talk) 23:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Beyond being disappointed that nothing's been learned, as there are no expectations left to be disappointed. The problem's over now for all of us, anyway. Duty to myself, to the truth, and the too-timid to speak for themselves, done. Goodnight; goodbye. Heath St John (talk) 00:01, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

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@Clarityfiend Hello.

Must precedent's be our only guide  ?

Set another precedent then that, too, becomes one; people then forget the first and follow the latter.

Thanks, but, to me, laws serve not shackle.

Regards to you. Heath St John (talk) 12:48, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

You can swim against the tide, but it's unlikely to make much of a dent. Years ago, I had a dispute with another editor who insisted on italicizing character names in film cast sections for no particular reason. They managed to antagonize quite a few people with their determination to do any number of things their way. They're long gone. Clarityfiend (talk) 13:03, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend Interesting; outside of an educational project, differing opinions are argumentative, which here are pleasingly just debate.

My happinesses depends upon this point as much as my intention in participating in Wikipaedia was to be dogmatic: which in each, is not at all.

I'll just say that most things from the trivial to the momentous are in flux, sentences, empires, all.

Where there's a rule, I'd follow it, and debate it if I disagreed.

Where there's a wave, well, there are also reflux waves; a tide comes in, looks this time, finally, to bear no contradiction; then, those small sandbanks reappear, who know they only have to lie still, and wait.

Thanks for the exchange. Heath St John (talk) 13:26, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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Knock it off

You are Edit warring, and you are ignoring the guidance at MOS:FIRST. If you persist with this you will likely be blocked from editing the article. Go to the talk page and propose the changes you want to see. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:16, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Girth Summit How sad. It only succeeds in looking aggressive and dictatorial, and does nothing to dispell the increasing perception that outside the moated coaterie of enthroned editors, everyone else is on one knee living in royalty's 'Grace and Favour' accommodation.

Why did I ever reconsider my former decision never to bother again, like many others, after promising never to ! ? I could leave that as a rhetorical question, but I'll answer it: for the truth, and the fascination that truth's imagination often exceeds imaginative invention.

However, this time, I think I really shall stand by it. The conviction that medal-awarding Editor's are people with one trouser-leg rolled up, chanting occult incantations from under monk's cowls, in pitch and tow, fire-lit cellars is too overpowering.

I'm beginning to feel something of the same relief as I write this world-shattering resignation that the Editors must feel. But if a barricaded city's haemorrahaging population continues to scale it's golden walls, the remaining monarchs shall have to rely on its own clanking medals for firther nutrition, so it'll dally with emaciation.

I'm too weary to read any reply.

I do still, very sincerely, wish the enterprise my very, very best. But, I'll move over to the IMDB, monitor Wikipaedia, and anticipate the revolution to which all empires finally succumb.

Best regards. Heath St John (talk) 11:43, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Bollocks. You revised the first sentence of the lead in such a way that it was incompatible with the MOS. It was badly written and poorly punctuated too, for what that's worth. When your inappropriate edit was undone, you reinstated it rather than start a discussion - that's not on. You need to look to your own conduct, not wave your hands about a cabal of gilded masonic rulers. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:51, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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I fixed the un-centered 'B' at List of people from the London Borough of Hackney after seeing that you had some trouble with it. :) Cheers! Fakescientist8000 00:47, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks very much indeed. I tried and tried. Eventually, I just left it as you found it. Heath St John (talk) 14:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hello. The sentence you restored still makes no grammatical sense to me. Could you, please, explain ? Thanks. Heath St John (talk) 21:43, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hello.

Well, two things: firstly, whoever made that rule probably isn't aware of how strong thaeir sense of irony is. Of course, I do see that merely by writing something doesn't mean it's true. And by quoting itself, the site could ve repeating its own mistakes. But then the question must be, if it can't quote itself, (even when it has already allowed the unreferenced information to stand unchallenged, as it is currently doing, on Russell Waters' profile, i.e., ' Place if Birth: Glasgow '); how is it the uncorroborated information there is allowed to be true, but not elsewhere ? Should I, you, anyone, now go to that actor's page and delete it ? If that's so, then all of us shall be doing little else, as there must be many, many thousands of such instances.

Let it go, then But I think we know that we'd both choose choose to say' Glasgow ' as the answer, both for him and for Olaf in a millionaire quiz show.

If it's true on one page, uncorroborated, then it's true if repeated on another, and vice versa.

A great shame, but where their are two wills, there's not always a way.

I'm content to let our contrasting philosophies lie on these pages. I think consistency shall have to wait patiently for his claim to be recognized.

Regards to you. Heath St John (talk) 17:48, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

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@Missclaireallen Hello.

It seemed futile and pedantic to me. Utterly redundant; as is one of those meaningless coloured, corporate bobby shapes that companies pay PR firms thousands to design to represent them by which, after a while, whilst many do come to associate with a company, a fine Portland stone building has had its exterior graffitied over, to no purposeful effect.

Thanks for your time. Heath St John (talk) 13:55, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm perplexed - I simply responded to your question. No need for the combativeness. How does graffiti waffle come into the discussion? Missclaireallen (talk) 14:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

@Missclaireallen We have different perceptions.

The general not particularly observations were of the corporate world, and advertising in general; the redundancy of the edited words in the article being analogous to the comparison; not directed at you, or anybody.

I'm not one to confuse differences of opinion with combativeness; as I'm not one to mistake any words, just because they are not mine, as waffle; though I do see whether we intend to show that that truly is our feeling whether we intend to communicate it or not, it can escape our guard; just like in some people a camera, despite a mannered person's most practised poses, reveal the true contemptuous nature. Both these traits allowed me to read your reply interestedly, and thank you for your time, sincerely.

There's a modern habit, not modern really, but prevalent, today, of using mock politeness as satire, putting a ribbon on the end of a lance: (remember in Austen's ' Pride and Prejudice ' where Miss. Bennett was thanked by a sneer for her " Valuable remarks " ?): that wasn't it at all, just genuine...

thanks, which I say again now: thanks. Heath St John (talk) 14:41, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your interesting response! In regards to waffle - I was just referring to keeping the discussion directly relevant to the topic. I do understand where you're coming from, as I often remove redundant information and superfluous guff myself. But I'm also a stickler for consistency, so if in the 'Tyoe' column, a short film is listed as a 'short film', so too do I list a feature film as a 'feature film'. Yes I'm perhaps pedantic, but I do it in the interest of consistency, - which I find usually beneficial to apply on a reference site. I also do it this way; in line with most of the neater and tidier looking Wiki pages. In regards to combativeness, I don't read into differences of opinion as combativeness - it's more about delivery. Apologies if I misinterpreted your tone/intent. Cheers. Missclaireallen (talk) 15:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

@Missclaireallen Thanks.

I wasn't calling ' you ' pedantic.

"Interesting response ", you say ? Well I can only say that perhaps that's because unless sentences, unless speech is full of, or pays its presumed dues at least once in a sentence to, " No problem; all right ?; sorta-fing geezer, know wot I mean like ?, basically, at the end a-the day", forehead furrows appear on a tilted head, and you just know that if they were being honest the dubious, puckered lips should speak what the weighty, troubled expressions above them are thinking, sorry, finking: " What is ! this twat talkin' about, d'ya know..." ?, as they turn their gaze round to their equally confused friend for the support they always need, unprepared as they are to stand alone, and whose ears have also received vocal frequencies his headphones don't usually pass on to him, with their perpetual ' musical ' accompaniment of " Thump, thump, thump ".

Thanks.

Kenny Everett's Mister Angry. (If you don't know that comedian, or character, he can be found on You Tube, waving his rolled umbrella at the camera from ' Kenny Everett's Video Show ', I think, about 1979/'80. I've altered over the years from laughing at him to agreeing with him; in itself amusing). Heath St John (talk) 16:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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After reading your edit summary, I found the errant line ("1977 "Charlie Cobb: A Good Night For A Hanging") and removed it. For some reason that line of text was stuck between two lines in the 1980s part of the filmography table. I found it by using the source editor and searching for "Charlie Cobb".

That was a strange situation. I don't remember seeing anything like it before. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:21, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

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Your edit to the article on Convoy PQ 17 was really valuable because it drew my attention to a long-standing error in the article. Once I corrected the error in the article, there was no need for the text you added.

The message I posted on Talk:Convoy PQ 17#Wrong tons was to explain the error.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:44, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello.

Well whatever that error was, thank you.

The exchanges I've read before on ' Talk ' pages haven't always been friendly, so I shall remember that.

Thanks. Heath St John (talk) 11:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

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My word !

You are a rarity on here.

Although no thank you, when you next see unpleasant exchanges on here, you might feel a little of what I mean when I say now how unexpectedly pleasant you are.

So, although again I say no thanks, I do say thank you for the more important offer you've made of affability, which I know how to appreciate. Heath St John (talk) 12:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

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